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nofx · 06-07-2005, 07:56 PM

and then release it as their own song?

thats just so fucking uncreative

yea if you can make it sound better than the orginonal, go for it, but if yer just going to take the beat and rap over it with your own shit, lame.

QuaWee · 06-07-2005, 08:17 PM

rappers arent the only ones.

brizzad · 06-07-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

rappers arent the only ones.

okay? when did he say they were

he said so many rappers

good times · 06-07-2005, 08:22 PM

classic rock....forever!!!

TurboTrucker · 06-07-2005, 08:23 PM

Because they don't know how to play an instrument, so the music has to come from somewhere.

sickkittens · 06-07-2005, 08:24 PM

Lack of talent, maybe? Or just "if they can do it, we can do it" mentality.

nofx · 06-07-2005, 08:29 PM

and before anyone pisses over the fact i misspelled original, yes, I already know.

QuaWee · 06-07-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brizzad

okay? when did he say they were

he said so many rappers

what are you talking about? i never stated that he said that....

Monique Niccole · 06-07-2005, 08:29 PM

That's how rap was born. When rap started back in the day it was a DJ spinning a record and someone rapping over it. Most rappers rapped over a rock, disco, or soul record. Do you remember Run DMC rapping over Aerosmith? Sugar Hill Gang rapping over the disco hit "Good Times? It comes from taking something either old or "foreign" and making it familiar.

I'm sure this explanation is not what you want to hear or why you raised the question though, so carry on...

SomeCreep · 06-07-2005, 08:29 PM

because they're crunk

nofx · 06-07-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

That's how rap was born. When rap started back in the day it was a DJ spinning a record and someone rapping over it. Most rappers rapped over a rock, disco, or soul record. Do you remember Run DMC rapping over Aerosmith? Sugar Hill Gang rapping over the disco hit "Good Times? It comes from taking something either old or "foreign" and making it familiar.

I'm sure this explanation is not what you want to hear or why you raised the question though, so carry on...

ok but why do they seem so proud of what they do? they dont do anything musically complex like play a guitar or piano.

their only talent is in their lyrics and vocals and perhaps they even mix/create/produce their own music.

nofx · 06-07-2005, 08:36 PM

I also hate the fact that they plug brand names left and right.

I guess they love getting free shit from corporation X for saying their business name in a song.

vintagefuze · 06-07-2005, 08:37 PM

sometimes when u hear a song u react in certain ways.....one is this song is hot the artist did his thing...another is i like this beat and i can do as good as this artist....another could be damn this artist doesnt belong on this beat and im gonna kill it better....some ppl have incredible talent but if ur not heard of, u have to get respect by taking a well know beat and "making" it yours....

but if u wanna hear all original beats but a hot artist(reviews dont lie from ppl u dont kno) go here

cdbaby.com/fuzeblistz

good times · 06-07-2005, 08:39 PM

preach it brotha

nofx · 06-07-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by good times

preach it brotha

get on aim, now.

Monique Niccole · 06-07-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nofx

ok but why do they seem so proud of what they do? they dont do anything musically complex like play a guitar or piano.

their only talent is in their lyrics and vocals and perhaps they even mix/create/produce their own music.

If you can rhyme over a beat with any modicum of skill, then I encourage you to unplug from GFY, go to NYC, get yourself on a mixtape and go up against any well-known battle MC's -- whether they're rhyming over their own beats or someone elses.

I could never criticize someone for something that I can't do -- whether its playing a concerto or writing/freestyling a complex rap.

Monique Niccole · 06-07-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nofx

I also hate the fact that they plug brand names left and right.

I guess they love getting free shit from corporation X for saying their business name in a song.

I agree with that. Most rap is very commercial and brand-centric

nofx · 06-07-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Afrekete

If you can rhyme over a beat with any modicum of skill, then I encourage you to unplug from GFY, go to NYC, get yourself on a mixtape and go up against any well-known battle MC's -- whether they're rhyming over their own beats or someone elses.

I could never criticize someone for something that I can't do -- whether its playing a concerto or writing/freestyling a complex rap.

i'm not trying to hate on them. i'm saying mastering the guitar is an accomplishment while being able to rap to a beat is not that big of a feat.

I believe the majority of rappers hearts lie in money, not the music. Nelly's "Air Force Ones" song and Snoops "Holidae Inn" song are proof enough. and I wouldnt want to forget how many times they plug high end brands such as Lexus, Rolex, Mercedes, etc.

it seems to me as if they just bank off dropping names and rhyming. so sad.
mainstream rap and most of the other crap out there sucks.

sickbeatz · 06-07-2005, 08:55 PM

i make good beats

Fresh · 06-07-2005, 09:03 PM

Rappers rap over other rappers beats for mixtapes. If you checkout the 50 Cent/G-Unit mixtape library, you will find that these guys shit out a full lenght mixtape every fuckin week! Its a way for them to stay in the game and get at people they need to get at untill the next album comes out.

This isnt something new, its been happening for a long time and I dont see a problem with it unless they release it on an actual album.

O yea, I make good beats too.

Monique Niccole · 06-07-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nofx

i'm not trying to hate on them. i'm saying mastering the guitar is an accomplishment while being able to rap to a beat is not that big of a feat.

I believe the majority of rappers hearts lie in money, not the music. Nelly's "Air Force Ones" song and Snoops "Holidae Inn" song are proof enough. and I wouldnt want to forget how many times they plug high end brands such as Lexus, Rolex, Mercedes, etc.

it seems to me as if they just bank off dropping names and rhyming. so sad.
mainstream rap and most of the other crap out there sucks.

No, I'm not trying to say that you're hating on them. What I'm saying is that you're failing to see the skill. As a guitarist, Eric Clapton/Keith Richards/Joe Perry/Slash has to move the complexity of what's in his head to his fingers. As a rapper, Nas/Common/Jay-Z/Mos-Def has to move an equally complex thought from his head to his mouth.

I also think that what you see as greed are just the machinations of the pop machine. Rap is the new pop(ular) music. So, of course, people are going to use their power as rappers to sell cars, soft drinks...whatever. Part of that has to do with availability, and part of it has to do with the way a person may have grown up. Of course, if you grew up in poverty and used something to come from nothing, you're going to tend to ride almost every opportunity you get placed in front of you. It's hard to turn down $1 mil for a Pepsi commercial or even $100000 for a little mention in a rhyme. The music biz is a hungry beast and it has no integrity. You grab what you can get while you can get it.

taibo · 06-07-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

rappers arent the only ones.

eamedia · 06-07-2005, 11:05 PM

why does rap sound like a 3rd grade classroom project? and who cares?

TDF · 06-07-2005, 11:06 PM

trying to explain to white people rap is like teaching christopher reeves to crip walk

fuzebox · 06-08-2005, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagefuze

sometimes when u hear a song u react in certain ways.....one is this song is hot the artist did his thing...another is i like this beat and i can do as good as this artist....another could be damn this artist doesnt belong on this beat and im gonna kill it better....some ppl have incredible talent but if ur not heard of, u have to get respect by taking a well know beat and "making" it yours....

but if u wanna hear all original beats but a hot artist(reviews dont lie from ppl u dont kno) go here

cdbaby.com/fuzeblistz

For some reason your whole post is ironic to me...

BukkakeBrown · 06-08-2005, 11:05 AM

most rappers on beats that werent originally used by them are just on mixtapes and stuff

cuz fans of that rapper will want to hear him on a hot beat

06-07-2005, 07:56 PM	#1
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	why do so many rappers rap over other peoples beats and then release it as their own song? thats just so fucking uncreative yea if you can make it sound better than the orginonal, go for it, but if yer just going to take the beat and rap over it with your own shit, lame. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

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nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	and before anyone pisses over the fact i misspelled original, yes, I already know. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

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Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	That's how rap was born. When rap started back in the day it was a DJ spinning a record and someone rapping over it. Most rappers rapped over a rock, disco, or soul record. Do you remember Run DMC rapping over Aerosmith? Sugar Hill Gang rapping over the disco hit "Good Times? It comes from taking something either old or "foreign" and making it familiar. I'm sure this explanation is not what you want to hear or why you raised the question though, so carry on...

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nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	I also hate the fact that they plug brand names left and right. I guess they love getting free shit from corporation X for saying their business name in a song. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

06-07-2005, 08:37 PM	#13
vintagefuze Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 19	sometimes when u hear a song u react in certain ways.....one is this song is hot the artist did his thing...another is i like this beat and i can do as good as this artist....another could be damn this artist doesnt belong on this beat and im gonna kill it better....some ppl have incredible talent but if ur not heard of, u have to get respect by taking a well know beat and "making" it yours.... but if u wanna hear all original beats but a hot artist(reviews dont lie from ppl u dont kno) go here cdbaby.com/fuzeblistz

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good times Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sport-a-pak Posts: 75	preach it brotha __________________ Throw tridents. Only good can come of this. Trust me.

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Fresh TubeClicks.com - First Tube Affiliate Program Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: LA Posts: 4,920	Rappers rap over other rappers beats for mixtapes. If you checkout the 50 Cent/G-Unit mixtape library, you will find that these guys shit out a full lenght mixtape every fuckin week! Its a way for them to stay in the game and get at people they need to get at untill the next album comes out. This isnt something new, its been happening for a long time and I dont see a problem with it unless they release it on an actual album. O yea, I make good beats too. __________________ Promote ONE Legal Tube Site, Collect Checks from 19 Sponsors Fresh Dave \| Email: [email protected] \| ICQ: 317160390

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