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  • nofx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2002
    • 16826
    #1

    why do so many rappers rap over other peoples beats

    and then release it as their own song?

    thats just so fucking uncreative

    yea if you can make it sound better than the orginonal, go for it, but if yer just going to take the beat and rap over it with your own shit, lame.

    Often times I wonder why
    There's love and hate, theres live or die.
    When sickness comes I must decide:
    When feelings go, theres suicide.
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    • QuaWee
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2004
      • 5791
      #2
      rappers arent the only ones.
      i luv mainstream

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        • brizzad
          holla
          • Jul 2003
          • 11769
          #3
          Originally posted by QuaWee
          rappers arent the only ones.
          okay? when did he say they were

          he said so many rappers

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            • good times
              Registered User
              • Mar 2005
              • 75
              #4
              classic rock....forever!!!
              Throw tridents. Only good can come of this. Trust me.

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                • TurboTrucker
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2363
                  #5
                  Because they don't know how to play an instrument, so the music has to come from somewhere.

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                    • sickkittens
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25100
                      #6
                      Lack of talent, maybe? Or just "if they can do it, we can do it" mentality.

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                        • nofx
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 16826
                          #7
                          and before anyone pisses over the fact i misspelled original, yes, I already know.

                          Often times I wonder why
                          There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                          When sickness comes I must decide:
                          When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                            • QuaWee
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 5791
                              #8
                              Originally posted by brizzad
                              okay? when did he say they were

                              he said so many rappers
                              what are you talking about? i never stated that he said that....
                              i luv mainstream

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                                • Monique Niccole
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 5653
                                  #9
                                  That's how rap was born. When rap started back in the day it was a DJ spinning a record and someone rapping over it. Most rappers rapped over a rock, disco, or soul record. Do you remember Run DMC rapping over Aerosmith? Sugar Hill Gang rapping over the disco hit "Good Times? It comes from taking something either old or "foreign" and making it familiar.

                                  I'm sure this explanation is not what you want to hear or why you raised the question though, so carry on...

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                                    • SomeCreep
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 26118
                                      #10
                                      because they're crunk

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                                        • nofx
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 16826
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Afrekete
                                          That's how rap was born. When rap started back in the day it was a DJ spinning a record and someone rapping over it. Most rappers rapped over a rock, disco, or soul record. Do you remember Run DMC rapping over Aerosmith? Sugar Hill Gang rapping over the disco hit "Good Times? It comes from taking something either old or "foreign" and making it familiar.

                                          I'm sure this explanation is not what you want to hear or why you raised the question though, so carry on...
                                          ok but why do they seem so proud of what they do? they dont do anything musically complex like play a guitar or piano.

                                          their only talent is in their lyrics and vocals and perhaps they even mix/create/produce their own music.

                                          Often times I wonder why
                                          There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                          When sickness comes I must decide:
                                          When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                                            • nofx
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 16826
                                              #12
                                              I also hate the fact that they plug brand names left and right.

                                              I guess they love getting free shit from corporation X for saying their business name in a song.

                                              Often times I wonder why
                                              There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                              When sickness comes I must decide:
                                              When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                                                • vintagefuze
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 19
                                                  #13
                                                  sometimes when u hear a song u react in certain ways.....one is this song is hot the artist did his thing...another is i like this beat and i can do as good as this artist....another could be damn this artist doesnt belong on this beat and im gonna kill it better....some ppl have incredible talent but if ur not heard of, u have to get respect by taking a well know beat and "making" it yours....

                                                  but if u wanna hear all original beats but a hot artist(reviews dont lie from ppl u dont kno) go here

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                                                    • good times
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                      • 75
                                                      #14
                                                      preach it brotha
                                                      Throw tridents. Only good can come of this. Trust me.

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                                                        • nofx
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 16826
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by good times
                                                          preach it brotha
                                                          get on aim, now.

                                                          Often times I wonder why
                                                          There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                                          When sickness comes I must decide:
                                                          When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                                                            • Monique Niccole
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 5653
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by nofx
                                                              ok but why do they seem so proud of what they do? they dont do anything musically complex like play a guitar or piano.

                                                              their only talent is in their lyrics and vocals and perhaps they even mix/create/produce their own music.
                                                              If you can rhyme over a beat with any modicum of skill, then I encourage you to unplug from GFY, go to NYC, get yourself on a mixtape and go up against any well-known battle MC's -- whether they're rhyming over their own beats or someone elses.

                                                              I could never criticize someone for something that I can't do -- whether its playing a concerto or writing/freestyling a complex rap.

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                                                                • Monique Niccole
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                  • 5653
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by nofx
                                                                  I also hate the fact that they plug brand names left and right.

                                                                  I guess they love getting free shit from corporation X for saying their business name in a song.

                                                                  I agree with that. Most rap is very commercial and brand-centric

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                                                                    • nofx
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 16826
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Afrekete
                                                                      If you can rhyme over a beat with any modicum of skill, then I encourage you to unplug from GFY, go to NYC, get yourself on a mixtape and go up against any well-known battle MC's -- whether they're rhyming over their own beats or someone elses.

                                                                      I could never criticize someone for something that I can't do -- whether its playing a concerto or writing/freestyling a complex rap.
                                                                      i'm not trying to hate on them. i'm saying mastering the guitar is an accomplishment while being able to rap to a beat is not that big of a feat.

                                                                      I believe the majority of rappers hearts lie in money, not the music. Nelly's "Air Force Ones" song and Snoops "Holidae Inn" song are proof enough. and I wouldnt want to forget how many times they plug high end brands such as Lexus, Rolex, Mercedes, etc.

                                                                      it seems to me as if they just bank off dropping names and rhyming. so sad.
                                                                      mainstream rap and most of the other crap out there sucks.
                                                                      Last edited by nofx; 06-07-2005, 07:56 PM.

                                                                      Often times I wonder why
                                                                      There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                                                      When sickness comes I must decide:
                                                                      When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                                                                        • sickbeatz
                                                                          The Hustler
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 4993
                                                                          #19
                                                                          i make good beats

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                                                                            • Fresh
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                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                              • 4920
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Rappers rap over other rappers beats for mixtapes. If you checkout the 50 Cent/G-Unit mixtape library, you will find that these guys shit out a full lenght mixtape every fuckin week! Its a way for them to stay in the game and get at people they need to get at untill the next album comes out.

                                                                              This isnt something new, its been happening for a long time and I dont see a problem with it unless they release it on an actual album.

                                                                              O yea, I make good beats too.


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                                                                                • Monique Niccole
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 5653
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by nofx
                                                                                  i'm not trying to hate on them. i'm saying mastering the guitar is an accomplishment while being able to rap to a beat is not that big of a feat.

                                                                                  I believe the majority of rappers hearts lie in money, not the music. Nelly's "Air Force Ones" song and Snoops "Holidae Inn" song are proof enough. and I wouldnt want to forget how many times they plug high end brands such as Lexus, Rolex, Mercedes, etc.

                                                                                  it seems to me as if they just bank off dropping names and rhyming. so sad.
                                                                                  mainstream rap and most of the other crap out there sucks.
                                                                                  No, I'm not trying to say that you're hating on them. What I'm saying is that you're failing to see the skill. As a guitarist, Eric Clapton/Keith Richards/Joe Perry/Slash has to move the complexity of what's in his head to his fingers. As a rapper, Nas/Common/Jay-Z/Mos-Def has to move an equally complex thought from his head to his mouth.

                                                                                  I also think that what you see as greed are just the machinations of the pop machine. Rap is the new pop(ular) music. So, of course, people are going to use their power as rappers to sell cars, soft drinks...whatever. Part of that has to do with availability, and part of it has to do with the way a person may have grown up. Of course, if you grew up in poverty and used something to come from nothing, you're going to tend to ride almost every opportunity you get placed in front of you. It's hard to turn down $1 mil for a Pepsi commercial or even $100000 for a little mention in a rhyme. The music biz is a hungry beast and it has no integrity. You grab what you can get while you can get it.

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                                                                                    • taibo
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                      • 3720
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by QuaWee
                                                                                      rappers arent the only ones.

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                                                                                        • eamedia
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 1456
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          why does rap sound like a 3rd grade classroom project? and who cares?

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                                                                                            • TDF
                                                                                              Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                              • 27296
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              trying to explain to white people rap is like teaching christopher reeves to crip walk
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                                                                                                • fuzebox
                                                                                                  making it rain
                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 22352
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by vintagefuze
                                                                                                  sometimes when u hear a song u react in certain ways.....one is this song is hot the artist did his thing...another is i like this beat and i can do as good as this artist....another could be damn this artist doesnt belong on this beat and im gonna kill it better....some ppl have incredible talent but if ur not heard of, u have to get respect by taking a well know beat and "making" it yours....

                                                                                                  but if u wanna hear all original beats but a hot artist(reviews dont lie from ppl u dont kno) go here

                                                                                                  cdbaby.com/fuzeblistz
                                                                                                  For some reason your whole post is ironic to me...

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                                                                                                    • BukkakeBrown
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                      • 734
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      most rappers on beats that werent originally used by them are just on mixtapes and stuff

                                                                                                      cuz fans of that rapper will want to hear him on a hot beat
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