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taibo · 06-07-2005, 09:22 PM

lol that site is so unprofessional for a business made to handle money transfers

StuBradley · 06-07-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

I made a shitpile promoting paypal when it came out. They were backed by millions of dollars.

That's what I'm talking about.

And to be clear, here is exactly what you get for signing up (sorry if some of my earlier post were off):

When you sign up your get $25 in WebCash. This will only be able to be spent online with the merchants I mentioned earlier (plus many others).

For each person that signs up under you, you will get $5 (again in WebCash) unless they deposit $100 to become a gold member, in which case you will get $25 ($9 Webcash, $16 real money).

As you can see they will have $100 in real money coming in for every $16 going out. I do not see how that is an unrealistic scenario for them to make money especially when you must assume that they are starting off with 30 or 40 million in the bank.

Also, the Webcash will likely need to be spent in conjunction with real money to buy tangible goods. For example when buying a toaster oven from Target you might need to pay $30 real money and $20 WebCash. Each merchant gets to choose what percentage of WebCash they will accept for each transaction.

So for the 10 people I have under me now, I will get $75 in WebCash (got $25 for signing up) plus more if any of my people go gold. Again, Green Zap doesn't have any of my banking info, so I don't see where I have anything to lose.

ruler1 · 06-07-2005, 09:55 PM

ServiceZ, RewardZ, StoreZ, AuctionZ... and so on.. i mean fuck, did you really sign up??? If so i think you are one of the biggest looser on planet earth.

No offence though, your just a moron.

kernelpanic · 06-07-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruler1

ServiceZ, RewardZ, StoreZ, AuctionZ... and so on.. i mean fuck, did you really sign up??? If so i think you are one of the biggest looser on planet earth.

No offence though, your just a moron.

I'm still looking for the WareZ, MovieZ, FileZ, CrackZ, ProgZ, and all the other things typically ending in Z

Who thought that ending every thing in Z would be a good idea?

woj · 06-07-2005, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuBradley

When you sign up your get $25 in WebCash. This will only be able to be spent online with the merchants I mentioned earlier (plus many others).

Can you spend that money RIGHT NOW, or will you only be able to spend it in the future?

pornpf69 · 06-07-2005, 10:03 PM

how many accon]unts are you allowed to have?
what can you do with that 20 bucks you recived?
can you send it to another user? if so that is easy money...too good to be true

kernelpanic · 06-07-2005, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

Can you spend that money RIGHT NOW, or will you only be able to spend it in the future?

you have to wait until the service launches

simple simon · 06-07-2005, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

GreenZap is another facet of Damon Westmoreland?s Mazumah.biz, a known MLM operation.
http://www.mazumah.biz

Linda Murphy is Mazumah?s VP of Marketing and is also involved with many of Damon Westmoreland?s other "get rich quick"-type businesses. She registered GreenZap with San Diego California?s Fictitious Business Names on March 10, 2005:
http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/serv?mber=2005008722

Quote:
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GREENZAP FBN #2005008722 Details

Number of Businesses 001
Business Name GREENZAP
Number of Owners 001
Owner MURPHY LINDA
Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 20050310
Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 20100310
Business Conducted By Individual
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http://www.findarticles.com/p/artic?16/ai_112249200 Linda Murphy Mazumah?s Public Relations manager

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/sls/68985003.html Linda Murphy posted job offer for Mazumah?s internet-based banking and payroll division

Pictures of Linda Murphy and Damon Westmoreland
http://www.mazumah.biz/index.htm Click on PICTURES tab

http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonr?compid=30002299 San Diego BBB report on Mazumah which shows Linda Murphy as VP of Marketing

Greenzap is a Damon Westmoreland company no matter who is listed as President, CEO, etc. Run a Google search on Damon Westmoreland, Caruba International (also arubatradewinds or Tradewind Holding Co) tele-card network, mypaysystems, BestOf.com, Card Global, jet99 and too many others to mention.

A few CARUBA articles:
http://www.ravallinews.com/articles?news/news04.txt Local residents fall victim to illegal investment scheme

http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/0305/214999.html Attorney General Warns Against Pyramid Scheme

http://turideas.com/2caruba.htm Westmoreland Executive Vice President and Ivan Shew-A-tjon (AKA Ivan F. Shew) President of Caruba International

http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonr?d=3002153&code= BBB report on Tele-card Network showing Damon Westmoreland as owner

FTC and Tele-card Network:
http://www.thedigest.com/74/74-15.html

Quote:
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FTC BUSTS TELECOM PYRAMID SCAMS!
Washington, D.C., Nov. 18, 1996 (DLD Digest) ? In a massive crackdown that is the broadest federal-state coordinated effort of its type, the Federal Trade Commission and enforcement officials from 25 states last Friday announced that they have taken more than 75 law enforcement actions so far against get-rich-quick self-employment schemes, including work-at-home scams, pyramid schemes often pitched on the Internet, and pre-packaged small businesses involving everything from vending machine frauds to sophisticated medical billing services.

The actions are the result of "Operation Missed Fortune," launched early last summer. This federal/state effort targets scam artists who capitalize on downsizing, the growth of computers in consumers? homes and other trends by promising people "proven" and "lucrative" opportunities to gain financial independence and to "be your own boss." The firms charge up-front fees ranging from $30 to tens of thousands of dollars. Officials said the fraudulent companies make false promises about high earnings, sometimes refer consumers to phony references or "shills" who give glowing, but false, reports about the business, and frequently fail to provide consumers with detailed business disclosure documents required by federal or state law. The FTC staff estimated that consumers lose tens of millions of dollars to get-rich-quick business scams every year. Officials will be filing more actions as part of this project in the coming weeks.
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FTC Operation Missed Fortune: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/11/misdfortlst.htm look under California for Tele-card Network

fuckin idiots, god people around here are fucking stupid.

StuBradley · 06-07-2005, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

GreenZap is another facet of Damon Westmoreland?s Mazumah.biz, a known MLM operation.
http://www.mazumah.biz

Linda Murphy is Mazumah?s VP of Marketing and is also involved with many of Damon Westmoreland?s other "get rich quick"-type businesses. She registered GreenZap with San Diego California?s Fictitious Business Names on March 10, 2005:
http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/serv?mber=2005008722

Quote:
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GREENZAP FBN #2005008722 Details

Number of Businesses 001
Business Name GREENZAP
Number of Owners 001
Owner MURPHY LINDA
Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 20050310
Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 20100310
Business Conducted By Individual
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http://www.findarticles.com/p/artic?16/ai_112249200 Linda Murphy Mazumah?s Public Relations manager

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/sls/68985003.html Linda Murphy posted job offer for Mazumah?s internet-based banking and payroll division

Pictures of Linda Murphy and Damon Westmoreland
http://www.mazumah.biz/index.htm Click on PICTURES tab

http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonr?compid=30002299 San Diego BBB report on Mazumah which shows Linda Murphy as VP of Marketing

Greenzap is a Damon Westmoreland company no matter who is listed as President, CEO, etc. Run a Google search on Damon Westmoreland, Caruba International (also arubatradewinds or Tradewind Holding Co) tele-card network, mypaysystems, BestOf.com, Card Global, jet99 and too many others to mention.

A few CARUBA articles:
http://www.ravallinews.com/articles?news/news04.txt Local residents fall victim to illegal investment scheme

http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/0305/214999.html Attorney General Warns Against Pyramid Scheme

http://turideas.com/2caruba.htm Westmoreland Executive Vice President and Ivan Shew-A-tjon (AKA Ivan F. Shew) President of Caruba International

http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonr?d=3002153&code= BBB report on Tele-card Network showing Damon Westmoreland as owner

FTC and Tele-card Network:
http://www.thedigest.com/74/74-15.html

Quote:
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FTC BUSTS TELECOM PYRAMID SCAMS!
Washington, D.C., Nov. 18, 1996 (DLD Digest) ? In a massive crackdown that is the broadest federal-state coordinated effort of its type, the Federal Trade Commission and enforcement officials from 25 states last Friday announced that they have taken more than 75 law enforcement actions so far against get-rich-quick self-employment schemes, including work-at-home scams, pyramid schemes often pitched on the Internet, and pre-packaged small businesses involving everything from vending machine frauds to sophisticated medical billing services.

The actions are the result of "Operation Missed Fortune," launched early last summer. This federal/state effort targets scam artists who capitalize on downsizing, the growth of computers in consumers? homes and other trends by promising people "proven" and "lucrative" opportunities to gain financial independence and to "be your own boss." The firms charge up-front fees ranging from $30 to tens of thousands of dollars. Officials said the fraudulent companies make false promises about high earnings, sometimes refer consumers to phony references or "shills" who give glowing, but false, reports about the business, and frequently fail to provide consumers with detailed business disclosure documents required by federal or state law. The FTC staff estimated that consumers lose tens of millions of dollars to get-rich-quick business scams every year. Officials will be filing more actions as part of this project in the coming weeks.
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FTC Operation Missed Fortune: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/11/misdfortlst.htm look under California for Tele-card Network

Dude, every one of those links is dead save for the ABC news one which is just a general warning about pyramid schemes.

V_RocKs · 06-07-2005, 10:53 PM

brilsmurf · 06-07-2005, 11:53 PM

mmm looks cam to me, what good businessman would make all wordz on his menu structure end in a z?

When you Go Gold, you'll continue to get rewarded with $5 of WebCash for every person that uses your ZapID (aka Promo Code) when opening a GreenZap account. Plus, you?ll now earn $20 ($16 cash, $4 WebCash) from everyone?yes, everyone... who upgrades to a GreenZap Gold account through your ZapID.

Going Gold also makes you eligible for eye-popping Community Rewardz and allows you the ability to receive a GreenZap debit MasterCard® or Visa® which provides you with instant access to your GreenZap cash fundz.

canplayer · 06-07-2005, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuBradley

That's what I'm talking about.

As you can see they will have $100 in real money coming in for every $16 going out. I do not see how that is an unrealistic scenario for them to make money especially when you must assume that they are starting off with 30 or 40 million in the bank.

They might have 800 million or they might have 50 bucks. I've read into it and after looking over their business model, it's quite obvious this is either a scam or a fishing site to get leads. Maybe you can show me what leads you to believe they have 30-40 mill in financial backing? These guys have a history of MLM operations, doesn't that tell you something?? jeeze

NTSS · 06-08-2005, 12:13 AM

I'll check it out thanks

adonthenet · 06-08-2005, 12:55 AM

only epass for me

woj · 06-08-2005, 12:58 AM

It's also worth noting that that site doesn't use encrypted connections, unlike epass, paypal, or any other serious financial website....

Dagwolf · 06-08-2005, 01:28 AM

I think I'll wait for the movie to come out.

Vitasoy · 06-08-2005, 01:58 AM

I think I'd stick to Epass or Moneybookers.

baddog · 06-08-2005, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuBradley

I signed up for an account yesterday and had $25 in my account within 5 minutes. That $25 bucks can be spent at Ebay, Amazon.com, NetFlix, Target.com, Hotwire.com and any of the hundreds of other online merchants already using them. Does Amazon or Netflix take PayPal? This isn't a flash in the pan company, I think that they will replace PayPal.

Have you tried withdrawing the cash?

Tipsy · 06-08-2005, 02:40 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...light=greenzap

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...light=greenzap

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...light=greenzap

All the same guy or simply more idiots who believe the hype in any get rich quick scam that comes along?

Oracle Porn · 06-08-2005, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

is kind of funny though,,

duke.

lol so is it funny or is it not?

ofcourse it's not your model, it's not porn either....

nexcom28 · 06-08-2005, 02:57 AM

Clickcash offer $80.00 just for signing up for free!

Nydahl · 06-08-2005, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

GreenZap is another facet of Damon Westmoreland?s Mazumah.biz, a known MLM operation.
http://www.mazumah.biz

Linda Murphy is Mazumah?s VP of Marketing and is also involved with many of Damon Westmoreland?s other "get rich quick"-type businesses. She registered GreenZap with San Diego California?s Fictitious Business Names on March 10, 2005:
http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/serv?mber=2005008722

Quote:
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GREENZAP FBN #2005008722 Details

Number of Businesses 001
Business Name GREENZAP
Number of Owners 001
Owner MURPHY LINDA
Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 20050310
Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 20100310
Business Conducted By Individual
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http://www.findarticles.com/p/artic?16/ai_112249200 Linda Murphy Mazumah?s Public Relations manager

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/sls/68985003.html Linda Murphy posted job offer for Mazumah?s internet-based banking and payroll division

Pictures of Linda Murphy and Damon Westmoreland
http://www.mazumah.biz/index.htm Click on PICTURES tab

http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonr?compid=30002299 San Diego BBB report on Mazumah which shows Linda Murphy as VP of Marketing

Greenzap is a Damon Westmoreland company no matter who is listed as President, CEO, etc. Run a Google search on Damon Westmoreland, Caruba International (also arubatradewinds or Tradewind Holding Co) tele-card network, mypaysystems, BestOf.com, Card Global, jet99 and too many others to mention.

A few CARUBA articles:
http://www.ravallinews.com/articles?news/news04.txt Local residents fall victim to illegal investment scheme

http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/0305/214999.html Attorney General Warns Against Pyramid Scheme

http://turideas.com/2caruba.htm Westmoreland Executive Vice President and Ivan Shew-A-tjon (AKA Ivan F. Shew) President of Caruba International

http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonr?d=3002153&code= BBB report on Tele-card Network showing Damon Westmoreland as owner

FTC and Tele-card Network:
http://www.thedigest.com/74/74-15.html

Quote:
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FTC BUSTS TELECOM PYRAMID SCAMS!
Washington, D.C., Nov. 18, 1996 (DLD Digest) ? In a massive crackdown that is the broadest federal-state coordinated effort of its type, the Federal Trade Commission and enforcement officials from 25 states last Friday announced that they have taken more than 75 law enforcement actions so far against get-rich-quick self-employment schemes, including work-at-home scams, pyramid schemes often pitched on the Internet, and pre-packaged small businesses involving everything from vending machine frauds to sophisticated medical billing services.

The actions are the result of "Operation Missed Fortune," launched early last summer. This federal/state effort targets scam artists who capitalize on downsizing, the growth of computers in consumers? homes and other trends by promising people "proven" and "lucrative" opportunities to gain financial independence and to "be your own boss." The firms charge up-front fees ranging from $30 to tens of thousands of dollars. Officials said the fraudulent companies make false promises about high earnings, sometimes refer consumers to phony references or "shills" who give glowing, but false, reports about the business, and frequently fail to provide consumers with detailed business disclosure documents required by federal or state law. The FTC staff estimated that consumers lose tens of millions of dollars to get-rich-quick business scams every year. Officials will be filing more actions as part of this project in the coming weeks.
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FTC Operation Missed Fortune: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/11/misdfortlst.htm look under California for Tele-card Network

good 1 really

Yankee Scum · 06-08-2005, 03:44 AM

i think it is the greatest email harvester i have seen in a long fucking time hehe

beta-tester · 06-08-2005, 04:00 AM

Well it looks good for me. Maybe they are scammers, I really don't know.
But why just simply not give them a try ? I mean, you can lose nothing! Even you can get "free" money! Let's try it and let's talk about them after few months... We really can't say they are good, or they are bad after 1 month of their opening!
Yes, it's a little suspicious because they are giving a lot of "free" money, but let's wait and we'll see...

As for myself, I joined there, because I know that I can lose nothing!!

alexg · 06-08-2005, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

It should have been

STFUBradley..

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06-07-2005, 09:22 PM	#51
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06-07-2005, 09:55 PM	#53
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