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Old 06-07-2005, 01:34 PM   #1
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any european and/or non american sponsors not willing to comply with 2257

see Title, it is getting on my nerve that american laws and sponsors think they sort of own the Internet, and can apply whatever comes in their minds as rules and regulartions, so please contact me asap at
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:35 PM   #2
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American sponsors and American companies need to follow American rules.

Don't you think its a little ignorant and arrogant to expect otherwise?
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:37 PM   #3
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no, that is why I am looking for non american sponsors, no arrogance, maybe ignorance.
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:38 PM   #4
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most of my non-us contacts aren't even doing anything about it. Biz as usual.
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:41 PM   #5
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well ........... just to make sure, call it plan B, LOL
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:59 PM   #6
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most of my non-us contacts aren't even doing anything about it. Biz as usual.
good, they shouldnt
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:06 PM   #7
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:12 PM   #8
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I am not THAT worried it is more an uneasy feeling and heh ....... I love to have a plan B
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:08 PM   #9
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see Title, it is getting on my nerve that american laws and sponsors think they sort of own the Internet, and can apply whatever comes in their minds as rules and regulartions, so please contact me asap at
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90% of EU sponsors are NOT willing to comply with 2257, and this is their RIGHT. Believe you or not, but they are not under the US laws, and US law is not the INTERNATIONAL one.
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:27 PM   #10
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digibucks is uk based so if 2257 comes a pain in the ass I'd just move our servers to amsterdam or peer1.net up in canada
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:58 AM   #11
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Our headquarters are based in Europe (France, UK, Belgium and Romania) and all our stuff is hosted in Paris, France, by ourselves... so contact me if interested
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Old 06-08-2005, 01:18 AM   #12
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We are in Nederlands so no problem at all
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Old 06-08-2005, 02:35 AM   #14
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So US companies will have hard time and Non US will not. Interesting....So to avoid problems with 2257 one should have busienss regestered in EU what about host...Should be oursite of US too?
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:26 AM   #19
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just checked my e-mail as well and yes there are loads of e-mails like this:

Hi Thumblords,

We are based in ( country) and although we are 2257 compliant we will not be
forcing US law onto non US webmasters.

If you need anything just shoot me an email.

Regards
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so there will be new sponsors up soon.
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:41 AM   #20
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digibucks is uk based so if 2257 comes a pain in the ass I'd just move our servers to amsterdam or peer1.net up in canada
Spanno man I hear ya...we are also doing the same sterlingcash will not be complying its not our law...also people remember the UK has its data protection act, we are not allowed to release personal info...plus the EU is such that laws and changes have gto be ratified across nation states not just a single country.

Sterlingcash currently offers a lot of non nude content, but we are going to provide nn content for the US webmasters effected as well as nn FHG's

If anything becomes a real problem we just move our servers and swap processors etc.

Unfortunately its a US based problem...your gov is screwing ya!
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:51 AM   #21
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so I can add loads of UK based sponsors as well, that is good news together with all sponsors that have answered the switch from american to non-american sponsors is no problem then.
so the sky is falling but not for non us webmasters
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:01 AM   #22
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Yep there are many up coming UK sponsors...I suggest people start using them...starting with us! *cough see sig*
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If anyone comes up with a decent list of these kinds of sponsors I'd certainly be interested. I'm always looking for good non-US sponsors and the 2257 crap makes them even better to use.
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If anyone comes up with a decent list of these kinds of sponsors I'd certainly be interested. I'm always looking for good non-US sponsors and the 2257 crap makes them even better to use.
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Old 06-08-2005, 06:18 AM   #27
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see Title, it is getting on my nerve that american laws and sponsors think they sort of own the Internet, and can apply whatever comes in their minds as rules and regulartions, so please contact me asap at
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And for everyone else.. RewardThem is based in Denmark with our 50-70% recurring program prosessed by CCbill-Eu..
Naturaly we will do what we can to help ALL our affiliates, both american and non american and give you the choice of both hardcore and softcore promo content..
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Old 06-08-2005, 07:44 AM   #30
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do any of these pay in any currency other than dollars?
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Yes we do

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American sponsors and American companies need to follow American rules.

Don't you think its a little ignorant and arrogant to expect otherwise?

what you're really saying, is that we should keep our business in Amarica. Not gonna happen. The industry is moving overseas. period.

you can either flow with it, or stay here and be a cop. )and I think cops make about $9.50 and hour or some shit)
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Quick question what if you make more with a US sponsor who's site converts better with Softcore you still only going to send to non-US sponsors.

Why don't you wait and see who makes you the most money like any smart business man whould do...?

I've been in this business for 9 years and in adult entertainment for 15

I could care less if its softcore or hardcore it all depends if the sponers know how to convert traffic.

Send to who makes you the most

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Quick question what if you make more with a US sponsor who's site converts better with Softcore you still only going to send to non-US sponsors.

Why don't you wait and see who makes you the most money like any smart business man whould do...?

I've been in this business for 9 years and in adult entertainment for 15

I could care less if its softcore or hardcore it all depends if the sponers know how to convert traffic.

Send to who makes you the most
If you've been in the biz for 9 years, you should already know the answer...

and smart "businessmen" do not need to wait til the last minute for anything, they are risk takers and have forsight. (That's why n00bs don't play in the stock market, hint hint ) But in this case, it's right in front of your face.

90% of it won't convert. The surfer wants pussy.
Over the course of the next 3 years, US webmaster will be living off bookmarks and pageranks while the US market slowly falls. When the surfer realizes that these sites aren't doing him justice, you will realize that he's left and it's the guys in Britain or the Netherlands who dominate the market.

I have no doubt that softcore will boom amoungst webmasters as sponsors rush to be the first to offer content. But in the end, the softcore market will be small, tight and dominated by trusted American name brands such as Playboy, Huster and Vivid... Believe me, they've been waiting for this opportunity to get the market back for 5 long years... They're gonna take it.


Yea... 3 years and it's over.
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If you've been in the biz for 9 years, you should already know the answer...

and smart "businessmen" do not need to wait til the last minute for anything, they are risk takers and have forsight. (That's why n00bs don't play in the stock market, hint hint ) But in this case, it's right in front of your face.

90% of it won't convert. The surfer wants pussy.
Over the course of the next 3 years, US webmaster will be living off bookmarks and pageranks while the US market slowly falls. When the surfer realizes that these sites aren't doing him justice, you will realize that he's left and it's the guys in Britain or the Netherlands who dominate the market.

I have no doubt that softcore will boom amoungst webmasters as sponsors rush to be the first to offer content. But in the end, the softcore market will be small, tight and dominated by trusted American name brands such as Playboy, Huster and Vivid... Believe me, they've been waiting for this opportunity to get the market back for 5 long years... They're gonna take it.


Yea... 3 years and it's over.
I totally disagree nothing will change webmasters will send to those who make them the most money period. When I said softcore that?s just the marketing materials the members get Hardcore.

and your right surfers want to see pussy why not make them pay for it?
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