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Old 06-06-2005, 05:12 PM   #1
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Rat out your friends or go to prison

From AVN article:

"under H.R. 1528, the "Defending America's Most Vulnerable: Safe Access to Drug Treatment and Child Protection Act of 2005" introduced by Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisc.), if anybody who sees another person using a "controlled substance", or even hears that it happened, fails to report such use or hearsay to the feds within 24 hours, that person could find him/herself staring down the barrel of a two to 10 year sentence in the federal pokey."

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Old 06-06-2005, 05:14 PM   #2
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Rat out. Friends are idiots.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:16 PM   #3
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Fuck if ever a company gets formed to custom build prisons in the US make sure you buy shares. The way all the scaremongering is going right now half of America is gonna be in the nick withing 2 years lol.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:16 PM   #4
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screw them Im not ratting out shit
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:16 PM   #5
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George Orwell is grinning in his grave....
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:17 PM   #6
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:18 PM   #7
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:18 PM   #8
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That bill will never get out of committee
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:29 PM   #9
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nice!..do the rat thing!
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:29 PM   #10
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their are laws about who can be deputised and who can't and the reasons for doing that.
that is what this asswipe is trying to do, make you a deputy (cop).
this won't go anywhere.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:30 PM   #11
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Fuck if ever a company gets formed to custom build prisons in the US make sure you buy shares. The way all the scaremongering is going right now half of America is gonna be in the nick withing 2 years lol.
You really don't think that these companies already exist?
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:32 PM   #12
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If anybody who sees another person using a "controlled substance", or even hears that it happened ...
I'd like to see you *prove* i saw my friends smoking up the other night. DNA? Blood samples? Video?

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Old 06-06-2005, 05:35 PM   #13
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Rat this! No way man I would never tell.
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Old 06-06-2005, 07:48 PM   #14
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Old 06-06-2005, 07:52 PM   #15
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If hes really your friend.. you don't rat him out. But were talking up to 10 years man
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Old 06-06-2005, 08:20 PM   #16
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It still depends if you tell or not!
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Old 06-06-2005, 08:22 PM   #17
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:07 PM   #18
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That bill will never get out of committee
Unless they can figure out a way to attach it as a rider to a propsed law that one side of congress wants to pass, but has to offer something to get the other side support. unfortunately it's is neccessary evil. without it, few laws would never get the majority vote needed to pass.

i find it very unlikely, but do you have any idea how many proposed laws have riders attached that have nothing to do with the proposed law. it happens all the time.

without spending a bunch of time on this, it's the same as when a car dealer tells a bank, "i will let you finance all my car buyers, but you have to approve a % of marginal credit buyers and not just good credit buyers". the banks hate this, but if they want the business they have to agree.
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:09 PM   #19
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I dont knowingly associate with people who use drugs, so i wont have to worry about "ratting' them out.
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:12 PM   #20
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I guess a good argument would be, "I'm not a fucking expert on controlled substances"

would be up to them to prove otherwise.

where do they come up with this stupid shit anyway?
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:16 PM   #21
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Just some more stupid bullshit disguised as protecting the children shit. I'm going to write this asshole and tell him what a fuckin idiot dickhead he is.
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:17 PM   #22
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this kind of shit pisses me off
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:20 PM   #23
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I'm telling you that there are Republican fundalmentalist (Christo-Nazis) trying to take control of our society. Wake up and smell the crematoriums (metaphorically, of course).
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:24 PM   #24
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"(b) Any person who violates subsection (a) of this section shall be sentenced to not less than two years or more than 10 years. If the person who witnesses or learns of the violation is the parent or guardian, or otherwise responsible for the care or supervision of the person under the age of 18 or the incompetent person, such person shall be sentenced to not less than three years or more than 20 years."

WTF IS THIS KIND OF SHIT?!!?!
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:41 PM   #25
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Would I rat out a friend? No, let them prove I knew something.. but the opening lines in this AVN article, states: "Fortunately, no one on the set of an adult video production ever tokes up or snorts a line or two of any controlled substance ? or pops a non-prescribed Viagra ? before beginning his/her sex scene ? or before picking up a camera, setting lights, moving scenery, or calling "Action!" "

I say, "NOR should they on the set!" I don't judge anyone who partakes in libations on their own time. It's their life, their business, and as long as it doesn't directly affect me, who cares. BUT on our set, crew included, we have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy to drugs and alcohol, inclusively non-prescribed Viagra. First, models are signing releases as per 2257 requires. That is a legal document, and any signed contract under the influence of a controlled substance, and/or alcohol will hold very little weight as opposed to those which were singed by sober talent. Further, Producers, Cover your six, during your opening video taped testimonial ask if the talent is under the influence of drugs, alcohol, etc.. and/ or is in the possession of anything.. If so, ask them to leave. As for non-prescribed Viagra, we tell the talent, if you need enhancers take 'em on your own, outside of our presence. So within, "the Biz", this shouldn't affect most of us. Either way, the new proposal does suck.
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:44 PM   #26
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I don't know any pathetic losers that do drugs. So I have nothing to worry about.
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Old 06-07-2005, 06:04 AM   #27
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Old 06-07-2005, 06:10 AM   #28
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that's insane.. hard call.. if there's too much at stake, and you are going to loose too much, you have no choice, but if you are going to get killed for ratting..you are in a pickle!!
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Old 06-07-2005, 06:42 AM   #29
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Old 06-07-2005, 06:52 AM   #30
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Old 06-07-2005, 08:10 AM   #31
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I can't believe the average reaction here is 'not sure what I would do' instead of outrage what this govt is doing. Just goes to show no matter how much control and power this govt tries to give itself most of you just sit back with your thumbs in your ass thinking everything is just fine. If I could just make a dollar from every ignorant person in this country I'd be a millionaire ten times over, gotta come up with a way to do that.
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