MensNiche tests Vimax Extender & Size Genetics (STATS) - GoFuckYourself.com

Darren · 06-03-2005, 12:05 AM

Alright guys, as you know we like to stay on top of things and make sure we are the best converters. So I decided to do a test of some of our competitors a couple months ago to verify just that. Vimax was brought up in another thread with a question of conversions. So I decided to post my test results for them and us. Keep in mind that they were saying "We convert" when this test was done.

First of all, here's the page we used to promote SizeGenetics and test it's conversions.

http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices1.php

Here was a screenshot from the 5 days I sent traffic.

Now, here's the page I used to promote Vimax. check it out, I kept the text basically the same so I could get the most accurate figures.

http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices-vimax.php

Now, here's the screenshot from the days I sent traffic

These campaigns followed eachother, so there wasn't a big difference in the dates, ALL TRAFFIC was google adwords, off of the same campaign, with the same bid price and same keywords.

I know there is a huge difference between these, but NOTHING changed between the campaigns. These are simply the numbers that the test produced.

Any questions?

*** Also, prosolutionpills converted poorly because I ONLY used "device", "extender", and "stretcher" based keywords to push this site. In case you were wondering

reynold · 06-03-2005, 01:08 AM

Another paid infoads...

Rui · 06-03-2005, 01:10 AM

Those Vimax results aren't normal...

sixxxthsense · 06-03-2005, 01:12 AM

nice spammmm

swedguy · 06-03-2005, 01:18 AM

Don't they usually say that a good and honest product will sell itself without the need of slamming competition?

Steve G · 06-03-2005, 01:28 AM

Why am i not surprised to see this thread?

SomeCreep · 06-03-2005, 03:40 AM

I cant get vimax extender to convert worth shit.

I told "JupZChris" about an apparent error they seem to have on their pages which does not give webmasters credit for phone sales, fax orders, or snail mail.

Basically, when you click through your referral link, and then click on fax order, for example, the box that says "promotional code:" should have your referral ID. Instead it says "N/A".

Chris said he would look into it. That was around 4 - 5 months ago.

Can anyone from oainternet/pillsmoney address this issue?

exitmoney · 06-03-2005, 06:44 AM

hahahah nice try looser .
I guess is hard to see every single day that your webmasters leave to other programs... And not knowing how to improve your sites and conversions the only remaining solution is to make fake bashing on your competition

cannot stand how pathetic that could be from somebody claiming to run a biz as you do

Next will be what, cry to your mother and she will start posting here as well that her son is not making good sales

alias · 06-03-2005, 07:23 AM

dick stretchers with built in razors, elite..

FastSize is the O.G. nigz! Mn is aight, but jup z vimax is hurting!

warez · 06-03-2005, 08:41 AM

good stats

fuck Shavers

FilthyRob · 06-03-2005, 08:43 AM

Is it time to replace my volume pills ad?

DrPhibes · 06-03-2005, 08:56 AM

And what about Penis-Health.com does it convert well too?. Do online penis enlargement manuals still sell?. I was thinking of buying some traffic for this.

Thanks!

Darren · 06-03-2005, 08:58 AM

See it for what you will, it was an actual test that we did and these are the exact results, gives you some idea of google traffic.

And I am sure VIMAX can confirm the stats from our account...

Chris · 06-03-2005, 08:59 AM

Hmm kinda odd - the last time you " tested " us you used the same type of page but you didnt post the stats public. I looked at where yous ent traffic from and the " final words " you used where something along the lines of "dont even bother they are a joke "
are you sure you didnt bait and switch after testing?????

Darren · 06-03-2005, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JupZChris

Hmm kinda odd - the last time you " tested " us you used the same type of page but you didnt post the stats public. I looked at where yous ent traffic from and the " final words " you used where something along the lines of "dont even bother they are a joke "
are you sure you didnt bait and switch after testing?????

bait and switch? same test.

Chris · 06-03-2005, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren

bait and switch? same test.

Darren are you sure?
I just took a look at your stats

Quote:

324 http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...02322&p=2&sb=1
173 http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...02322&p=2&sb=0
111 http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices.php
6 http://malepenisadvice.com/devices.php
3 http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...102322&p=2&sb=
1 http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices.ph

you sent traffic from THOSE sites.... take a look at those sites....you telling me that is the same site you SAID you tested us with?

I got screenshots of everything incase you try to switch out the site.

Chris · 06-03-2005, 09:29 AM

How does

Quote:

Short product review & detail of any bonuses.

The VimaxExtender leaves just a few things to be desired. The main ones? Quality and results. If you want to gain some size, this is definitely not the device for you. Strangely it's more expensive than the others. Guess they figure if it's expensive, you'll think it's worth more. Nice Try!

Our Final Word: So, so

compare to

Quote:

Short product review & detail of any bonuses.

Vimax was one of the first on the web with the traction device. This is the highest quality device available. Along with a fantastic device, they offer prompt and helpful customer service. Best of all, we have seen the absolute best results from clients of Vimax. We're not ones to argue with the evidence, this stretcher guarantees them!

Our Final Word: Get it, you won't be disappointed

The first one is the sites you sent traffic from .. the second quote is what you claim to of send traffic from ....

exitmoney · 06-03-2005, 09:35 AM

Darren,

You are just a looser my friend. It shows desperation and I am not sure your program will attract any webmaster if anything whoever still promotes you nowdays is an moron to deal with such a childish company/individuals and put their money in your hands and hope for the best from you .....

You should not have bothered make any test you should just fake your own stats and put there 1million in comissions. Why bother with sending traffic to any other program , worry how to fake the pages/traffic so it does not convert, etc. Is a lot of work for a little brain like yours. Just fake your stats outright and make even 2 sales per 1 raw click, I am sure if people beleive the stats you posted about oainternet, they will beleive that shit as welll

Anyways grow some balls and work on your sites to improve your conversions for your webmasters not put shit on any of your competition. That shows too much desperation my friend, is life really that hard for you nowdays....

Darren · 06-03-2005, 09:40 AM

No switching going on, the test was not finished today but as the stats show in january.

Our sites convert just fine, we put our ratios on show www.mensniche.com/topten.php do you? NO.

Chris · 06-03-2005, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren

No switching going on, the test was not finished today but as the stats show in january.

Our sites convert just fine, we put our ratios on show www.mensniche.com/topten.php do you? NO.

Darren you did not answer anything in my post

How come the site you posted that you claimed to send traffic to us from is not the same as stats are showing???????

Darren · 06-03-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JupZChris

Darren you did not answer anything in my post

How come the site you posted that you claimed to send traffic to us from is not the same as stats are showing???????

Jupz is it states in the first post:

1.) The top position text stayed the same (apart from name of the product) and the campaign run was exactly the same. So during one test SG was top with description, then during test with Vimax, Vimax was top with exact same description as SG.

So now we obviously have SG back at the top because it converted.

exitmoney · 06-03-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren

Jupz is it states in the first post:

1.) The top position text stayed the same (apart from name of the product) and the campaign run was exactly the same. So during one test SG was top with description, then during test with Vimax, Vimax was top with exact same description as SG.

So now we obviously have SG back at the top because it converted.

You got caught in your bullshit and you still don't give up :
read again Chris's post, the traffic received from the server logs was from:
http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...02322&p=2&sb=1 . On that page Vimax extender is still down the page and bashed. So you should have changed your page , there is something call "logs" that give you away. I can't beleive how stupid somebody could be

Rui · 06-03-2005, 10:04 AM

oh oh...

lopez · 06-03-2005, 10:34 AM

your product is a rippoff of fastsize anyhow, and you dont see them run around crying for some competition.

Steve G · 06-03-2005, 11:01 AM

Matter of fact is:
WE ARE THE HIGHEST PAYING. $200 PER SALE FOLKS

)
We are launching a new extender site shortly that will blow away the competition. I see why are getting desperate

)

Steve G · 06-03-2005, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopez

your product is a rippoff of fastsize anyhow, and you dont see them run around crying for some competition.

Go away idiot

Alex · 06-03-2005, 11:04 AM

This is sad and pathetic. You fucked up once when you got that Our competitors are shaving thread backfired, why try again?

chowda · 06-03-2005, 11:08 AM

ill promote any of ur companies if u guys help me with the creative for adwords

Darren · 06-03-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitmoney

You got caught in your bullshit and you still don't give up :
read again Chris's post, the traffic received from the server logs was from:
http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...02322&p=2&sb=1 . On that page Vimax extender is still down the page and bashed. So you should have changed your page , there is something call "logs" that give you away. I can't beleive how stupid somebody could be

Congratulations, indeed the logs are CORRECT, the traffic does come from that page, we just changed the positions during the tests... u work it out yet?

BradM · 06-03-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chowda

ill promote any of ur companies if u guys help me with the creative for adwords

Dude, best friends get priority. Come on now.

Theo · 06-03-2005, 11:20 AM

hmmmmm

mixed thoughts for this thread.Personally even if I did such test, I wouldn't post it.

Steve G · 06-03-2005, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren

Congratulations, indeed the logs are CORRECT, the traffic does come from that page, we just changed the positions during the tests... u work it out yet?

anybody to take that test for real is an idiot.
You put SIZEGENETICS as #1
and Vimax as a company with a bad product. Surfers should be complete morons to buy our product and not yours.

Darren · 06-03-2005, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve G

anybody to take that test for real is an idiot.
You put SIZEGENETICS as #1
and Vimax as a company with a bad product. Surfers should be complete morons to buy our product and not yours.

Read the thread, Vimax was number one for set period of time with good description, then same description was used and SizeGenetics was no1.

Do the test urself

RuthB · 06-03-2005, 11:28 AM

Wow.. controversy and drama in the penis enlargement world.. who'da thunk it!

I've worked with (done biz with/promoted) most of these folks and I can tell you that Mensniche is a rock-on program, they're CONSTANTLY trying to provide the best support and resources for their webmasters. I'm sure this test was just part of it, though to do a complete ACTUAL comparison surely you'd have to have MN at #1 for one, and Vimax at #1 for another, then it's a true test (maybe that's what you did, not sure)

*Edit - according to Darren's post immediately above me, that's what they did!

OAInternet offers GREAT webmaster referrals (15%) which I believe is the highest in the industry (though I could be wrong, pls don't quote me on that

) They don't convert too badly, depends on how much (and quality) of traffic you're sending them.

Fastsize was one of the first with the Extender.. Andromedical was actually the first, but they didn't market it to webmasters, they marketed to the penis programs. Fastsize brought the Extender to the attention of TONS of webmasters and I'd say they're the dominant reason so many penis programs have adopted the device. (And I just love BradM

)

Now stop playing around and come promote Magna-Rx penis pills with WEGCash ...

LOL

- WE CONVERT!!!

chowda · 06-03-2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

Dude, best friends get priority. Come on now.

lol, i didnt bother checking what exactly was size genetics. lol

let me run some keyword checks

Steve G · 06-03-2005, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEGRuth

Fastsize was one of the first with the Extender.. Andromedical was actually the first, but they didn't market it to webmasters, they marketed to the penis programs. Fastsize brought the Extender to the attention of TONS of webmasters and I'd say they're the dominant reason so many penis programs have adopted the device. (And I just love BradM

)

Wrong. Andro Medical was the 2nd since Jes was the 1st

Steve G · 06-03-2005, 11:38 AM

I am thinking we should do a test as well and post results

)

RuthB · 06-03-2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve G

Wrong. Andro Medical was the 2nd since Jes was the 1st

I stand corrected.. thanks!

Yknow.. you guys should all hook up with an unbiased 3rd party to have a test done that can then ACTUALLY be FAIR and therefore referred to without accusations.

Just a thought.

tranza · 06-03-2005, 11:53 AM

Damn, that's not ethical at all!!

brand0n · 06-03-2005, 11:58 AM

did i mention that fastsize converts?

Rui · 06-03-2005, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

did i mention that fastsize converts?

so does OA Internet, your point is?

taibo · 06-03-2005, 12:29 PM

nice convertion

Theo · 06-03-2005, 12:40 PM

check sig

we have webmasters doing 1:15 with Ivana Fukalot independent penis size

Chris · 06-03-2005, 12:59 PM

Darren
It was pointed out to be awhile ago that you where promoting us and bashing our product in the review
it was pointed out ot be AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR

the fact is YOU POSTED A PAGE SAYING THAT IS THE PGAE YOU PROMOTED - our logs show diffrent... that is the SAME TEXT you used at the first of the year

why try to bash us like this ? I thought we where cool? Come on man ... atleast say something like " chris sux " not make up some major bullshit and get cough in a lie

Horny Guy · 06-03-2005, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I cant get vimax extender to convert worth shit.

I told "JupZChris" about an apparent error they seem to have on their pages which does not give webmasters credit for phone sales, fax orders, or snail mail.

Basically, when you click through your referral link, and then click on fax order, for example, the box that says "promotional code:" should have your referral ID. Instead it says "N/A".

Chris said he would look into it. That was around 4 - 5 months ago.

Can anyone from oainternet/pillsmoney address this issue?

yeah i sent them 2 emails over that as well ...first one no reply 2nd one ...
a reply of what is my account number ? i gave it to them in the email ...

Pulled my links sent to MN made money

Dracula · 06-03-2005, 03:13 PM

Darren... I sell pills with SE traffic for almost 3 years...
I convert with Mensniche 1:255 ... and that's all because I stopped. I have another account, new one, which is at 0:300
My overall conversion with Vimax is 1:70 starting october 2003.

I tried to explain to someone at your staff that I am sending good traffic, from SE hits, and he said to me to go to the webmaster board... C'mon man, it is childish... I mean, some webmaster is telling your support he's long enough in this biz to know most of the tricks, skills and market products and your support is redirecting him to the webmaster board? I was asking why I don't convert... I wanted to know each other closely

... and maybe the conversion will go up... oh well..

In other words, I saw you daily top and belive me, for your own good, you just don't want to see the Pillsmoney top. You'll have a heart attack man... take it as you want it but its true.

Finally, I am not saying your program doesnt convert (for me it converts worse than any other penis pills I tried - but lots of guys are promoting your pills so there must be something). I am saying this kind of publicity is not making you trusty. It's bad for your business to post this kind of messages. The players know what converts and how it converts...

Dracula · 06-03-2005, 03:18 PM

And to be honest all the way:

1. I am speaking about pills, not extenders.
2. I only sold well the FastSize extender, which I think converts better than any extender on the market.
3. I too want to see that Vimax Extender problem solved (credit for emails, phones, fax orders). Octav, its taking too long man...

SomeCreep · 06-03-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horny Guy

yeah i sent them 2 emails over that as well ...first one no reply 2nd one ...
a reply of what is my account number ? i gave it to them in the email ...

Pulled my links sent to MN made money

Isnt it odd how just about everyone associated with oainternet saw this thread and not 1 decided to address my question?

I'm starting to think it is not an error, rather Oainternet simply does not give webmasters credit for phone orders, fax orders, and mail orders. I cant find anywhere on their page that states webmasters are credited for those types of sales.

swedguy · 06-03-2005, 04:56 PM

The hole is getting deeper and deeper...

Steve G · 06-03-2005, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracula

And to be honest all the way:

1. I am speaking about pills, not extenders.
2. I only sold well the FastSize extender, which I think converts better than any extender on the market.
3. I too want to see that Vimax Extender problem solved (credit for emails, phones, fax orders). Octav, its taking too long man...

Soon. We rewrote our whole affiliate program for it. The old one no longer did the trick. We are designing a friendly user interface at this moment. But when its done in a week you will have all that you need and more.

06-03-2005, 03:40 AM	#7
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	I cant get vimax extender to convert worth shit. I told "JupZChris" about an apparent error they seem to have on their pages which does not give webmasters credit for phone sales, fax orders, or snail mail. Basically, when you click through your referral link, and then click on fax order, for example, the box that says "promotional code:" should have your referral ID. Instead it says "N/A". Chris said he would look into it. That was around 4 - 5 months ago. Can anyone from oainternet/pillsmoney address this issue? __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

06-03-2005, 06:44 AM	#8
exitmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: montreal, canada Posts: 143	hahahah nice try looser . I guess is hard to see every single day that your webmasters leave to other programs... And not knowing how to improve your sites and conversions the only remaining solution is to make fake bashing on your competition cannot stand how pathetic that could be from somebody claiming to run a biz as you do Next will be what, cry to your mother and she will start posting here as well that her son is not making good sales Last edited by exitmoney; 06-03-2005 at 06:45 AM..

06-03-2005, 07:23 AM	#9
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06-03-2005, 08:43 AM	#11
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06-03-2005, 08:58 AM	#13
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	See it for what you will, it was an actual test that we did and these are the exact results, gives you some idea of google traffic. And I am sure VIMAX can confirm the stats from our account... __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

06-03-2005, 12:05 AM	#1
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	MensNiche tests Vimax Extender & Size Genetics (STATS) Alright guys, as you know we like to stay on top of things and make sure we are the best converters. So I decided to do a test of some of our competitors a couple months ago to verify just that. Vimax was brought up in another thread with a question of conversions. So I decided to post my test results for them and us. Keep in mind that they were saying "We convert" when this test was done. First of all, here's the page we used to promote SizeGenetics and test it's conversions. http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices1.php Here was a screenshot from the 5 days I sent traffic. Now, here's the page I used to promote Vimax. check it out, I kept the text basically the same so I could get the most accurate figures. http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices-vimax.php Now, here's the screenshot from the days I sent traffic These campaigns followed eachother, so there wasn't a big difference in the dates, ALL TRAFFIC was google adwords, off of the same campaign, with the same bid price and same keywords. I know there is a huge difference between these, but NOTHING changed between the campaigns. These are simply the numbers that the test produced. Any questions? * Also, prosolutionpills converted poorly because I ONLY used "device", "extender", and "stretcher" based keywords to push this site. In case you were wondering __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup** ICQ: 46335817

06-03-2005, 01:08 AM	#2
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Another paid infoads...

06-03-2005, 01:10 AM	#3
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Those Vimax results aren't normal...

06-03-2005, 01:12 AM	#4
sixxxthsense Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,421	nice spammmm

06-03-2005, 01:18 AM	#5
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	Don't they usually say that a good and honest product will sell itself without the need of slamming competition?

06-03-2005, 01:28 AM	#6
Steve G Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 209	Why am i not surprised to see this thread?

06-03-2005, 08:41 AM	#10
warez Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 106	good stats fuck Shavers

06-03-2005, 08:56 AM	#12
DrPhibes Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 108	And what about Penis-Health.com does it convert well too?. Do online penis enlargement manuals still sell?. I was thinking of buying some traffic for this. Thanks!

06-03-2005, 08:59 AM	#14
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	Hmm kinda odd - the last time you " tested " us you used the same type of page but you didnt post the stats public. I looked at where yous ent traffic from and the " final words " you used where something along the lines of "dont even bother they are a joke " are you sure you didnt bait and switch after testing????? __________________ [email protected]

06-03-2005, 09:35 AM	#18
exitmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: montreal, canada Posts: 143	Darren, You are just a looser my friend. It shows desperation and I am not sure your program will attract any webmaster if anything whoever still promotes you nowdays is an moron to deal with such a childish company/individuals and put their money in your hands and hope for the best from you ..... You should not have bothered make any test you should just fake your own stats and put there 1million in comissions. Why bother with sending traffic to any other program , worry how to fake the pages/traffic so it does not convert, etc. Is a lot of work for a little brain like yours. Just fake your stats outright and make even 2 sales per 1 raw click, I am sure if people beleive the stats you posted about oainternet, they will beleive that shit as welll Anyways grow some balls and work on your sites to improve your conversions for your webmasters not put shit on any of your competition. That shows too much desperation my friend, is life really that hard for you nowdays....

06-03-2005, 09:40 AM	#19
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	No switching going on, the test was not finished today but as the stats show in january. Our sites convert just fine, we put our ratios on show www.mensniche.com/topten.php do you? NO. __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

06-03-2005, 10:04 AM	#23
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	oh oh...

06-03-2005, 10:34 AM	#24
lopez Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 299	your product is a rippoff of fastsize anyhow, and you dont see them run around crying for some competition.

06-03-2005, 11:01 AM	#25
Steve G Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 209	Matter of fact is: WE ARE THE HIGHEST PAYING. $200 PER SALE FOLKS ) We are launching a new extender site shortly that will blow away the competition. I see why are getting desperate )

06-03-2005, 11:04 AM	#27
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	This is sad and pathetic. You fucked up once when you got that Our competitors are shaving thread backfired, why try again? __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

06-03-2005, 11:08 AM	#28
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	ill promote any of ur companies if u guys help me with the creative for adwords __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

06-03-2005, 11:20 AM	#31
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	hmmmmm mixed thoughts for this thread.Personally even if I did such test, I wouldn't post it.

06-03-2005, 11:28 AM	#34
RuthB Let's Get Paxumized! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 7,247	Wow.. controversy and drama in the penis enlargement world.. who'da thunk it! I've worked with (done biz with/promoted) most of these folks and I can tell you that Mensniche is a rock-on program, they're CONSTANTLY trying to provide the best support and resources for their webmasters. I'm sure this test was just part of it, though to do a complete ACTUAL comparison surely you'd have to have MN at #1 for one, and Vimax at #1 for another, then it's a true test (maybe that's what you did, not sure) Edit - according to Darren's post immediately above me, that's what they did! OAInternet offers GREAT webmaster referrals (15%) which I believe is the highest in the industry (though I could be wrong, pls don't quote me on that ) They don't convert too badly, depends on how much (and quality) of traffic you're sending them. Fastsize was one of the first with the Extender.. Andromedical was actually the first, but they didn't market it to webmasters, they marketed to the penis programs. Fastsize brought the Extender to the attention of TONS of webmasters and I'd say they're the dominant reason so many penis programs have adopted the device. (And I just love BradM ) Now stop playing around and come promote Magna-Rx penis pills with WEGCash ... LOL - WE CONVERT!!! __________________ Send & Receive Mass Global Payments - Mass P2P/Wire/EFT/SEPA - Adult Industry Friendly - Award Winning Payment Service - Fast, Reliable & Secure!* Paxum ...... Paxum Bank Email: [email protected] ~ Telegram: PaxumRuth Last edited by RuthB; 06-03-2005 at 11:29 AM..

06-03-2005, 11:38 AM	#37
Steve G Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 209	I am thinking we should do a test as well and post results )

06-03-2005, 11:53 AM	#39
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Damn, that's not ethical at all!! __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-03-2005, 11:58 AM	#40
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	did i mention that fastsize converts? __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

06-03-2005, 12:29 PM	#42
taibo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,720	nice convertion

06-03-2005, 12:40 PM	#43
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	check sig we have webmasters doing 1:15 with Ivana Fukalot independent penis size

06-03-2005, 12:59 PM	#44
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	Darren It was pointed out to be awhile ago that you where promoting us and bashing our product in the review it was pointed out ot be AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR the fact is YOU POSTED A PAGE SAYING THAT IS THE PGAE YOU PROMOTED - our logs show diffrent... that is the SAME TEXT you used at the first of the year why try to bash us like this ? I thought we where cool? Come on man ... atleast say something like " chris sux " not make up some major bullshit and get cough in a lie __________________ [email protected]

06-03-2005, 03:13 PM	#46
Dracula Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 62	Darren... I sell pills with SE traffic for almost 3 years... I convert with Mensniche 1:255 ... and that's all because I stopped. I have another account, new one, which is at 0:300 My overall conversion with Vimax is 1:70 starting october 2003. I tried to explain to someone at your staff that I am sending good traffic, from SE hits, and he said to me to go to the webmaster board... C'mon man, it is childish... I mean, some webmaster is telling your support he's long enough in this biz to know most of the tricks, skills and market products and your support is redirecting him to the webmaster board? I was asking why I don't convert... I wanted to know each other closely ... and maybe the conversion will go up... oh well.. In other words, I saw you daily top and belive me, for your own good, you just don't want to see the Pillsmoney top. You'll have a heart attack man... take it as you want it but its true. Finally, I am not saying your program doesnt convert (for me it converts worse than any other penis pills I tried - but lots of guys are promoting your pills so there must be something). I am saying this kind of publicity is not making you trusty. It's bad for your business to post this kind of messages. The players know what converts and how it converts... __________________ Want some quality SE traffic? Submit your site to my PILLS directory Last edited by Dracula; 06-03-2005 at 03:15 PM..

06-03-2005, 03:18 PM	#47
Dracula Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 62	And to be honest all the way: 1. I am speaking about pills, not extenders. 2. I only sold well the FastSize extender, which I think converts better than any extender on the market. 3. I too want to see that Vimax Extender problem solved (credit for emails, phones, fax orders). Octav, its taking too long man... __________________ Want some quality SE traffic? Submit your site to my PILLS directory

06-03-2005, 04:56 PM	#49
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	The hole is getting deeper and deeper...