MensNiche tests Vimax Extender & Size Genetics (STATS)
 

Alright guys, as you know we like to stay on top of things and make sure we are the best converters. So I decided to do a test of some of our competitors a couple months ago to verify just that. Vimax was brought up in another thread with a question of conversions. So I decided to post my test results for them and us. Keep in mind that they were saying "We convert" when this test was done.

First of all, here's the page we used to promote SizeGenetics and test it's conversions.

http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices1.php

Here was a screenshot from the 5 days I sent traffic.

http://www.200sexpositions.com/sizescreenshot.JPG

Now, here's the page I used to promote Vimax. check it out, I kept the text basically the same so I could get the most accurate figures.

http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices-vimax.php

Now, here's the screenshot from the days I sent traffic

http://www.200sexpositions.com/vimaxscreenshot.JPG

These campaigns followed eachother, so there wasn't a big difference in the dates, ALL TRAFFIC was google adwords, off of the same campaign, with the same bid price and same keywords.

I know there is a huge difference between these, but NOTHING changed between the campaigns. These are simply the numbers that the test produced.

Any questions?

*** Also, prosolutionpills converted poorly because I ONLY used "device", "extender", and "stretcher" based keywords to push this site. In case you were wondering :)

Another paid infoads...

Those Vimax results aren't normal...

nice spammmm

Don't they usually say that a good and honest product will sell itself without the need of slamming competition?

Why am i not surprised to see this thread?

:)

I cant get vimax extender to convert worth shit.

I told "JupZChris" about an apparent error they seem to have on their pages which does not give webmasters credit for phone sales, fax orders, or snail mail.

Basically, when you click through your referral link, and then click on fax order, for example, the box that says "promotional code:" should have your referral ID. Instead it says "N/A".

Chris said he would look into it. That was around 4 - 5 months ago.

Can anyone from oainternet/pillsmoney address this issue?

hahahah nice try looser .
I guess is hard to see every single day that your webmasters leave to other programs... And not knowing how to improve your sites and conversions the only remaining solution is to make fake bashing on your competition :)

cannot stand how pathetic that could be from somebody claiming to run a biz as you do :1orglaugh Next will be what, cry to your mother and she will start posting here as well that her son is not making good sales :1orglaugh

dick stretchers with built in razors, elite..

FastSize is the O.G. nigz! Mn is aight, but jup z vimax is hurting!

good stats

fuck Shavers

Is it time to replace my volume pills ad?

And what about Penis-Health.com does it convert well too?. Do online penis enlargement manuals still sell?. I was thinking of buying some traffic for this.

Thanks!

See it for what you will, it was an actual test that we did and these are the exact results, gives you some idea of google traffic.

And I am sure VIMAX can confirm the stats from our account...

Hmm kinda odd - the last time you " tested " us you used the same type of page but you didnt post the stats public. I looked at where yous ent traffic from and the " final words " you used where something along the lines of "dont even bother they are a joke "
are you sure you didnt bait and switch after testing?????

bait and switch? same test.

Darren are you sure?
I just took a look at your stats


you sent traffic from THOSE sites.... take a look at those sites....you telling me that is the same site you SAID you tested us with?

I got screenshots of everything incase you try to switch out the site.

How does
compare to



The first one is the sites you sent traffic from .. the second quote is what you claim to of send traffic from ....

Darren,

You are just a looser my friend. It shows desperation and I am not sure your program will attract any webmaster if anything whoever still promotes you nowdays is an moron to deal with such a childish company/individuals and put their money in your hands and hope for the best from you .....

You should not have bothered make any test you should just fake your own stats and put there 1million in comissions. Why bother with sending traffic to any other program , worry how to fake the pages/traffic so it does not convert, etc. Is a lot of work for a little brain like yours. Just fake your stats outright and make even 2 sales per 1 raw click, I am sure if people beleive the stats you posted about oainternet, they will beleive that shit as welll :1orglaugh

Anyways grow some balls and work on your sites to improve your conversions for your webmasters not put shit on any of your competition. That shows too much desperation my friend, is life really that hard for you nowdays....

No switching going on, the test was not finished today but as the stats show in january.

Our sites convert just fine, we put our ratios on show www.mensniche.com/topten.php do you? NO.

Darren you did not answer anything in my post

How come the site you posted that you claimed to send traffic to us from is not the same as stats are showing???????

Jupz is it states in the first post:

1.) The top position text stayed the same (apart from name of the product) and the campaign run was exactly the same. So during one test SG was top with description, then during test with Vimax, Vimax was top with exact same description as SG.

So now we obviously have SG back at the top because it converted.

You got caught in your bullshit and you still don't give up :
read again Chris's post, the traffic received from the server logs was from:
http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...02322&p=2&sb=1 . On that page Vimax extender is still down the page and bashed. So you should have changed your page , there is something call "logs" that give you away. I can't beleive how stupid somebody could be :)

oh oh...

your product is a rippoff of fastsize anyhow, and you dont see them run around crying for some competition.

Matter of fact is:
WE ARE THE HIGHEST PAYING. $200 PER SALE FOLKS :))
We are launching a new extender site shortly that will blow away the competition. I see why are getting desperate :))

Go away idiot

This is sad and pathetic. You fucked up once when you got that Our competitors are shaving thread backfired, why try again?

ill promote any of ur companies if u guys help me with the creative for adwords :)

Congratulations, indeed the logs are CORRECT, the traffic does come from that page, we just changed the positions during the tests... u work it out yet? :winkwink:

Dude, best friends get priority. Come on now.

hmmmmm

mixed thoughts for this thread.Personally even if I did such test, I wouldn't post it.

anybody to take that test for real is an idiot.
You put SIZEGENETICS as #1
and Vimax as a company with a bad product. Surfers should be complete morons to buy our product and not yours.

Read the thread, Vimax was number one for set period of time with good description, then same description was used and SizeGenetics was no1.

Do the test urself :)

Wow.. controversy and drama in the penis enlargement world.. who'da thunk it!

I've worked with (done biz with/promoted) most of these folks and I can tell you that Mensniche is a rock-on program, they're CONSTANTLY trying to provide the best support and resources for their webmasters. I'm sure this test was just part of it, though to do a complete ACTUAL comparison surely you'd have to have MN at #1 for one, and Vimax at #1 for another, then it's a true test (maybe that's what you did, not sure)

*Edit - according to Darren's post immediately above me, that's what they did!

OAInternet offers GREAT webmaster referrals (15%) which I believe is the highest in the industry (though I could be wrong, pls don't quote me on that :winkwink: ) They don't convert too badly, depends on how much (and quality) of traffic you're sending them.

Fastsize was one of the first with the Extender.. Andromedical was actually the first, but they didn't market it to webmasters, they marketed to the penis programs. Fastsize brought the Extender to the attention of TONS of webmasters and I'd say they're the dominant reason so many penis programs have adopted the device. (And I just love BradM :wetkiss :winkwink: )

Now stop playing around and come promote Magna-Rx penis pills with WEGCash ... :winkwink: LOL :pimp - WE CONVERT!!!

lol, i didnt bother checking what exactly was size genetics. lol

let me run some keyword checks

Wrong. Andro Medical was the 2nd since Jes was the 1st

I am thinking we should do a test as well and post results :))

I stand corrected.. thanks! :thumbsup

Yknow.. you guys should all hook up with an unbiased 3rd party to have a test done that can then ACTUALLY be FAIR and therefore referred to without accusations.

Just a thought.

Damn, that's not ethical at all!!

did i mention that fastsize converts?

so does OA Internet, your point is? :2 cents:

nice convertion

check sig

we have webmasters doing 1:15 with Ivana Fukalot independent penis size

Darren
It was pointed out to be awhile ago that you where promoting us and bashing our product in the review
it was pointed out ot be AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR

the fact is YOU POSTED A PAGE SAYING THAT IS THE PGAE YOU PROMOTED - our logs show diffrent... that is the SAME TEXT you used at the first of the year

why try to bash us like this ? I thought we where cool? Come on man ... atleast say something like " chris sux " not make up some major bullshit and get cough in a lie

yeah i sent them 2 emails over that as well ...first one no reply 2nd one ...
a reply of what is my account number ? i gave it to them in the email ...

Pulled my links sent to MN made money :)

Darren... I sell pills with SE traffic for almost 3 years...
I convert with Mensniche 1:255 ... and that's all because I stopped. I have another account, new one, which is at 0:300
My overall conversion with Vimax is 1:70 starting october 2003.

I tried to explain to someone at your staff that I am sending good traffic, from SE hits, and he said to me to go to the webmaster board... C'mon man, it is childish... I mean, some webmaster is telling your support he's long enough in this biz to know most of the tricks, skills and market products and your support is redirecting him to the webmaster board? I was asking why I don't convert... I wanted to know each other closely :pimp ... and maybe the conversion will go up... oh well..

In other words, I saw you daily top and belive me, for your own good, you just don't want to see the Pillsmoney top. You'll have a heart attack man... take it as you want it but its true.

Finally, I am not saying your program doesnt convert (for me it converts worse than any other penis pills I tried - but lots of guys are promoting your pills so there must be something). I am saying this kind of publicity is not making you trusty. It's bad for your business to post this kind of messages. The players know what converts and how it converts...

And to be honest all the way:

1. I am speaking about pills, not extenders.
2. I only sold well the FastSize extender, which I think converts better than any extender on the market.
3. I too want to see that Vimax Extender problem solved (credit for emails, phones, fax orders). Octav, its taking too long man...

Isnt it odd how just about everyone associated with oainternet saw this thread and not 1 decided to address my question?

I'm starting to think it is not an error, rather Oainternet simply does not give webmasters credit for phone orders, fax orders, and mail orders. I cant find anywhere on their page that states webmasters are credited for those types of sales.

The hole is getting deeper and deeper...

http://www.jhc-cdca.org/images/diggi...e%20hole_t.jpg

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