xxxjay is a dick - and anyone who listens to him is an idiot - GoFuckYourself.com

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 08:40 AM

You're a fucking prick man.
First you come on here and tell everyone that your 2257 policy is basically "fuck 2257" we don't have to comply, and neither do you, keep promoting us with hardcore content that you don't have docs for because we think this law sucks.

Then you post a thread today saying an injunction was filed.
THERE WAS NO INJUNCTION....a suit was filed ASKING for a restraining order.
No such ruling has been made yet.

Then you tell people to quit worrying about 2257 and get back to work, as if you have a fucking crystal ball and know how the court will rule on the 20 DIFFERENT aspects of the regs that were challenged.

Parts of the regs may be enjoined while other parts may not be. Quit it with the misinformation punk

polish_aristocrat · 06-17-2005, 08:41 AM

and he also fucks cheap filipinian hookers

Manowar · 06-17-2005, 08:42 AM

I love drama on a friday

cyber_ninja · 06-17-2005, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

and he also fucks cheap filipinian hookers

i want one

cali_22 · 06-17-2005, 08:44 AM

tranza · 06-17-2005, 08:49 AM

I read at GG that an injunction was filed yesterday...

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

I read at GG that an injunction was filed yesterday...

A LAWSUIT SEEKING AN INJUNCTION WAS FILED.....only the court can issue an injunction.

Just because you file a lawsuit doesn't mean you'll win. There are thousands of suits filed every day, until the judge rules nothing has changed.

webgurl · 06-17-2005, 08:51 AM

hold on .... getting my bordercollie ready

TheDoc · 06-17-2005, 08:51 AM

That's the way I understood things.. They aren't trying to block the entire law just some parts of the new regulations. I don't know all the details of the filing but from what I understand the only solid part is the ruling about secondary producers, which could still be allowed. The rest of the regs stand a 50/50 chance of getting blocked.

Get your shit ready. It doesn't mean they won't still do inspections.

tranza · 06-17-2005, 08:52 AM

The FSC did it...

Ray@TastyDollars · 06-17-2005, 08:55 AM

Lenny please, dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel..hehe

Ray

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

That's the way I understood things.. They aren't trying to block the entire law just some parts of the new regulations. I don't know all the details of the filing but from what I understand the only solid part is the ruling about secondary producers, which could still be allowed. The rest of the regs stand a 50/50 chance of getting blocked.

Get your shit ready. It doesn't mean they won't still do inspections.

Exactly.
Nobody knows for certain how the judge will rule.
AND if the judge issues a temporary restraining order, we could still lose the case at trial, or on appeal.
If that happens the effective date of the regs could very well still be June 23, 2005 and you'll be fucked if they show up at your door the day after the court ruling and you don't have your shit together.

QuaWee · 06-17-2005, 08:56 AM

nothing like drama with a bowl fruit loops

chadglni · 06-17-2005, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Exactly.
Nobody knows for certain how the judge will rule.
AND if the judge issues a temporary restraining order, we could still lose the case at trial, or on appeal.
If that happens the effective date of the regs could very well still be June 23, 2005 and you'll be fucked if they show up at your door the day after the court ruling and you don't have your shit together.

Everyone is running around on here like a dumbass anyhow. The EFFECTIVE date of most regs is......ALREADY. Only the parts specifically listing June 23rd go into effect June 23rd. Pay real close attention, it says for content shot after 1995 you need X and for content shot after June 23 you need Y. X IS NEEDED NOW. So, jump everyones ass that isn't compliant and hasn't been compliant up till today.

wjxxx · 06-17-2005, 09:01 AM

time for some popcorn

MikeHawk · 06-17-2005, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

You're a fucking prick man.
First you come on here and tell everyone that your 2257 policy is basically "fuck 2257" we don't have to comply, and neither do you, keep promoting us with hardcore content that you don't have docs for because we think this law sucks.

Then you post a thread today saying an injunction was filed.
THERE WAS NO INJUNCTION....a suit was filed ASKING for a restraining order.
No such ruling has been made yet.

Then you tell people to quit worrying about 2257 and get back to work, as if you have a fucking crystal ball and know how the court will rule on the 20 DIFFERENT aspects of the regs that were challenged.

Parts of the regs may be enjoined while other parts may not be. Quit it with the misinformation punk

Why do you call someone a "prick" not to smart. Jay can say what he wants, we are all responsible for our own business, he has a lawyer do you?

Anybody that goes by what someone says on a post on GFY is the prick, not the person posting. You have things a little mixed up...if you have a serious business and you want to make sure you are all good with 2257 talk to your lawyer and dont take legal advise from the GFY board.

Anyone can say what ever they want...last time i checked, as for calling people names is not very nice.

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Everyone is running around on here like a dumbass anyhow. The EFFECTIVE date of most regs is......ALREADY. Only the parts specifically listing June 23rd go into effect June 23rd. Pay real close attention, it says for content shot after 1995 you need X and for content shot after June 23 you need Y. X IS NEEDED NOW. So, jump everyones ass that isn't compliant and hasn't been compliant up till today.

I don't care if you're compliant or not, that's your business.

I have a problem with someone telling other people that they don't have to be compliant. That's just fucking wrong.

Jay made a million dollars last year with sponsors....but apparently buying a clue costs a million and one dollars.

pradaboy · 06-17-2005, 09:06 AM

drama! drama I tell you!

chadglni · 06-17-2005, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

I don't care if you're compliant or not, that's your business.

I have a problem with someone telling other people that they don't have to be compliant. That's just fucking wrong.

Jay made a million dollars last year with sponsors....but apparently buying a clue costs a million and one dollars.

Umm, if any company hasn't sent the required documents to their affiliates their affiliates are illegal TODAY right along with the program. It's the same damn thing you're griping at except it covers a whole hell of a lot more people.

Fun fun.

BrainCash JF · 06-17-2005, 09:25 AM

Could someone tell me if there's an injonction or not ? if yes and possible please post a link that confirm this fact thanks

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainCash JF

Could someone tell me if there's an injonction or not ? if yes and possible please post a link that confirm this fact thanks

There is NO INJUNCTION as of this moment. All that exists currently is a lawsuit asking for an injunction.

If the pricks out there would learn english and not post misinformation we wouldn't have a bunch of confused webmasters.

cherrylula · 06-17-2005, 09:32 AM

everytime a program owner cries on a message board, an kitten spontaneously combusts.

please, help save the kittens.

Cassie · 06-17-2005, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

everytime a program owner cries on a message board, an kitten spontaneously combusts.

please, help save the kittens.

this thread needed that

stev0 · 06-17-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

everytime a program owner cries on a message board, an kitten spontaneously combusts.

please, help save the kittens.

that lightened up this thread

sexxxychat69 · 06-17-2005, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

and he also fucks cheap filipinian hookers

Their not the cheap

uno · 06-17-2005, 09:56 AM

I hope xxxjay comes out on the winning side. I much prefer him and his lawyers being correct.

lazzlo · 06-17-2005, 09:58 AM

I am down with anyone fighting the 2257 in any way, be it legal or a "fuck the 2257 attitude". GO JAY!

kernelpanic · 06-17-2005, 10:01 AM

So, do you have a news link as to how it actually happened, that is, if jay is wrong?

CDSmith · 06-17-2005, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

Why do you call someone a "prick" not to smart. Jay can say what he wants, we are all responsible for our own business, he has a lawyer do you?

Anybody that goes by what someone says on a post on GFY is the prick, not the person posting. You have things a little mixed up...if you have a serious business and you want to make sure you are all good with 2257 talk to your lawyer and dont take legal advise from the GFY board.

Anyone can say what ever they want...last time i checked, as for calling people names is not very nice.

Well said.

Lenny has been jumping people's shit over 2257 ever since the new regs were first posted. I think he is the self-appointed 2257 cop on GFY now. We should all start referring to him as "Officer Lenny" :D

kernelpanic · 06-17-2005, 10:02 AM

Besides, jay has been one of the few people willing to fight this. Not all of us have that desire, or those financial/legal resources. He should be commended for that.

The Ghost · 06-17-2005, 10:03 AM

I'm still looking for the Filipino hookers. The cheaper, the better

Sosa · 06-17-2005, 10:07 AM

yay more drama

kernelpanic · 06-17-2005, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

yay more drama

It never stops

khs · 06-17-2005, 10:10 AM

either way text will always be king

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno

I hope xxxjay comes out on the winning side. I much prefer him and his lawyers being correct.

I hope that the regs are enjoined also, but to tell people in advance that they "will be enjoined" or to lead them to believe that they already have been enjoined is fucked up.

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelpanic

Besides, jay has been one of the few people willing to fight this. Not all of us have that desire, or those financial/legal resources. He should be commended for that.

Jay isn't the one who filed a lawsuit....don't think for a second that Jay is fighting the regs for you....the FSC filed the lawsuit, which they had planned to do all along. Jay had nothing to do with it.

Platinum Adam · 06-17-2005, 10:12 AM

Jay is a good guy, he has always been really nice to me and a great person to work with, I just thought I would give my opinion!

adonthenet · 06-17-2005, 10:13 AM

ouch not good.

Snake Doctor · 06-17-2005, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Well said.

Lenny has been jumping people's shit over 2257 ever since the new regs were first posted. I think he is the self-appointed 2257 cop on GFY now. We should all start referring to him as "Officer Lenny" :D

Nah, you can just call me "Daddy" like you always have....everyone else just call me Lenny.

kernelpanic · 06-17-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Jay isn't the one who filed a lawsuit....don't think for a second that Jay is fighting the regs for you....the FSC filed the lawsuit, which they had planned to do all along. Jay had nothing to do with it.

No no no, thats not what I implied. I know its the FSC who filed the lawsuit, but jay/OCCash's stance on 2257 will be precedent setting if the DOJ comes after them, and they win.

Trax · 06-17-2005, 10:15 AM

all this drama... i need a drink

MandyBlake · 06-17-2005, 10:16 AM

ouch. i'm glad you're not mad at me. you'd make me cry.

Joesho · 06-17-2005, 10:17 AM

I like XXXJay he is very entertaining, and a smart guy ( I dont agree with misinformation though) but to call him names is not right, he does a lot of good here IMHO.

Theo · 06-17-2005, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

all this drama... i need a drink

here's my friend

mikeyddddd · 06-17-2005, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

...calling people names is not very nice.

I agree. That's just, well it's just...naughty. That's what it is.

TheDoc · 06-17-2005, 10:28 AM

Jay has some good points, but it may not be the smartest stance for the average webmaster to take. Listen, but still cover your own ass. Unless you have the money to protect yourself, then it's best that you comply. ($250k+ to protect yourself) Jay covered the issue about the secondary producer, which is a major part.. But it sure doesn't mean the rest of the new regulations will be blocked.

Lenny makes a solid point. It's not good or wise to tell others that they don't/won't need to comply because of a ruling already in place. The judge can ignore everything and allow every part of the new regulations to take place.

The fact is the 2257 is already law, already able to enforce it. Even allowing a few parts of the new regulations to take place can still affect every adult company in the United States. Just because Joe Webmaster may not need records doesn't mean your sponsors can and will be able to comply.

For your own safety, wouldn't you want to be 100% sure that the model is over age? Do you really trust every company you promote to be honest and have legal content? What about content produced by an American, which has girls from other countries? Are you sure they are legal for you to use?

Many parts of the new regulations may not get blocked and those parts could still affect all webmasters.

Point is, get your shit in order.. Wait to see what happens but be ready to comply.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-17-2005, 10:33 AM

Its important to comply with the current 2257 Laws.
Not doing so is sheer stupidity.

However...
I see Lenny is getting dumber by the day.

tranza · 06-17-2005, 10:43 AM

Hello Officer Lenny

mardigras · 06-17-2005, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

The judge can ignore everything and allow every part of the new regulations to take place.

Bottom line.

Guitar Riff · 06-17-2005, 10:56 AM

Well before running your mouth abut Jay maybe you should have found out who his lawyer is!!! It's one of the lawyers also working closely with FSC so he knows whats going on how and when. So just becuase you didnt like the way he stated what he posted about fuck 2257 doesnt mean hes a prick.

Everyone is having a fucking fit now about 2257

WELL HELLO People 2257 isn't new just the new record keeping requirements are different so get the fuck on with what ya got to do and quit bitchin about it if ya arent going to get a lawyer to fight. I paid my lawyer and got the goods and bads. and did what needs to be done to stay legal. And I dont even run Pay sites just TGP's MGP's and LL . You guys that run paysites and affiliate programs this should have been the first fuckin thing you did when new 2257 revisions came out was get a Lawyer.

Instead of people bitching Go out get yourself a lawyer

06-17-2005, 08:40 AM	#1
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	xxxjay is a dick - and anyone who listens to him is an idiot You're a fucking prick man. First you come on here and tell everyone that your 2257 policy is basically "fuck 2257" we don't have to comply, and neither do you, keep promoting us with hardcore content that you don't have docs for because we think this law sucks. Then you post a thread today saying an injunction was filed. THERE WAS NO INJUNCTION....a suit was filed ASKING for a restraining order. No such ruling has been made yet. Then you tell people to quit worrying about 2257 and get back to work, as if you have a fucking crystal ball and know how the court will rule on the 20 DIFFERENT aspects of the regs that were challenged. Parts of the regs may be enjoined while other parts may not be. Quit it with the misinformation punk __________________ sig too big

06-17-2005, 08:41 AM	#2
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	and he also fucks cheap filipinian hookers __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

06-17-2005, 08:49 AM	#6
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I read at GG that an injunction was filed yesterday... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-17-2005, 08:51 AM	#9
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	That's the way I understood things.. They aren't trying to block the entire law just some parts of the new regulations. I don't know all the details of the filing but from what I understand the only solid part is the ruling about secondary producers, which could still be allowed. The rest of the regs stand a 50/50 chance of getting blocked. Get your shit ready. It doesn't mean they won't still do inspections. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

06-17-2005, 08:52 AM	#10
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	The FSC did it... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-17-2005, 08:42 AM	#3
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	I love drama on a friday

06-17-2005, 08:44 AM	#5
cali_22 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Whistler BC Posts: 2,330

06-17-2005, 08:51 AM	#8
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	hold on .... getting my bordercollie ready

06-17-2005, 08:55 AM	#11
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Lenny please, dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel..hehe Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

06-17-2005, 08:56 AM	#13
QuaWee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers Posts: 5,791	nothing like drama with a bowl fruit loops __________________ i luv mainstream

06-17-2005, 09:01 AM	#15
wjxxx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,448	time for some popcorn

06-17-2005, 09:06 AM	#18
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	drama! drama I tell you! __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

06-17-2005, 09:25 AM	#20
BrainCash JF Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: montreal Posts: 81	Could someone tell me if there's an injonction or not ? if yes and possible please post a link that confirm this fact thanks __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-17-2005, 09:32 AM	#22
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	everytime a program owner cries on a message board, an kitten spontaneously combusts. please, help save the kittens.

06-17-2005, 09:56 AM	#26
uno RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Area Posts: 18,450	I hope xxxjay comes out on the winning side. I much prefer him and his lawyers being correct. __________________ -uno icq: 111-914 CrazyBabe.com - porn art MojoHost - For all your hosting needs, present and future. Tell them I sent ya!

06-17-2005, 09:58 AM	#27
lazzlo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,709	I am down with anyone fighting the 2257 in any way, be it legal or a "fuck the 2257 attitude". GO JAY! __________________ Buy my ads \| Sign up now

06-17-2005, 10:01 AM	#28
kernelpanic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,961	So, do you have a news link as to how it actually happened, that is, if jay is wrong? __________________ ZangoCash - Turn Your Traffic Into Ca$h. $.40 Per Install - No Tier

06-17-2005, 10:02 AM	#30
kernelpanic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,961	Besides, jay has been one of the few people willing to fight this. Not all of us have that desire, or those financial/legal resources. He should be commended for that. __________________ ZangoCash - Turn Your Traffic Into Ca$h. $.40 Per Install - No Tier

06-17-2005, 10:03 AM	#31
The Ghost IslandDollars.com Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Icq: 176176 Posts: 12,188	I'm still looking for the Filipino hookers. The cheaper, the better __________________ ISLAND DOLLARS 1000's of Exclusive TS scenes / Constant Updates Best TS Network your surfers will ever join

06-17-2005, 10:07 AM	#32
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	yay more drama

06-17-2005, 10:10 AM	#34
khs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,730	either way text will always be king __________________ Make MORE $$$ now! PussyCash

06-17-2005, 10:12 AM	#37
Platinum Adam Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 644	Jay is a good guy, he has always been really nice to me and a great person to work with, I just thought I would give my opinion!

06-17-2005, 10:13 AM	#38
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	ouch not good.

06-17-2005, 10:15 AM	#41
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	all this drama... i need a drink

06-17-2005, 10:16 AM	#42
MandyBlake The one and only! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 17,761	ouch. i'm glad you're not mad at me. you'd make me cry. __________________ Mandy's Playhouse Her First Fat Girl If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921

06-17-2005, 10:17 AM	#43
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	I like XXXJay he is very entertaining, and a smart guy ( I dont agree with misinformation though) but to call him names is not right, he does a lot of good here IMHO. __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

06-17-2005, 10:28 AM	#46
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Jay has some good points, but it may not be the smartest stance for the average webmaster to take. Listen, but still cover your own ass. Unless you have the money to protect yourself, then it's best that you comply. ($250k+ to protect yourself) Jay covered the issue about the secondary producer, which is a major part.. But it sure doesn't mean the rest of the new regulations will be blocked. Lenny makes a solid point. It's not good or wise to tell others that they don't/won't need to comply because of a ruling already in place. The judge can ignore everything and allow every part of the new regulations to take place. The fact is the 2257 is already law, already able to enforce it. Even allowing a few parts of the new regulations to take place can still affect every adult company in the United States. Just because Joe Webmaster may not need records doesn't mean your sponsors can and will be able to comply. For your own safety, wouldn't you want to be 100% sure that the model is over age? Do you really trust every company you promote to be honest and have legal content? What about content produced by an American, which has girls from other countries? Are you sure they are legal for you to use? Many parts of the new regulations may not get blocked and those parts could still affect all webmasters. Point is, get your shit in order.. Wait to see what happens but be ready to comply. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

06-17-2005, 10:33 AM	#47
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Its important to comply with the current 2257 Laws. Not doing so is sheer stupidity. However... I see Lenny is getting dumber by the day. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

06-17-2005, 10:43 AM	#48
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Hello Officer Lenny __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-17-2005, 10:56 AM	#50
Guitar Riff Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 320	Well before running your mouth abut Jay maybe you should have found out who his lawyer is!!! It's one of the lawyers also working closely with FSC so he knows whats going on how and when. So just becuase you didnt like the way he stated what he posted about fuck 2257 doesnt mean hes a prick. Everyone is having a fucking fit now about 2257 WELL HELLO People 2257 isn't new just the new record keeping requirements are different so get the fuck on with what ya got to do and quit bitchin about it if ya arent going to get a lawyer to fight. I paid my lawyer and got the goods and bads. and did what needs to be done to stay legal. And I dont even run Pay sites just TGP's MGP's and LL . You guys that run paysites and affiliate programs this should have been the first fuckin thing you did when new 2257 revisions came out was get a Lawyer. Instead of people bitching Go out get yourself a lawyer __________________ Buy and Sell Your Traffic to US!!