Designers and 2257 - Does it apply to you? - GoFuckYourself.com

jonesy · 05-31-2005, 02:18 PM

web designers, template/tgp/gallery designers, graphic designers, ect

wether youre

in house

free lance

outsource

design firm

do you think 2257 applies to you?

who · 05-31-2005, 02:20 PM

but why>?

pornpf69 · 05-31-2005, 02:22 PM

I dont get the question...

BlueWire · 05-31-2005, 02:23 PM

I believe the question is...if we use pics within our design...are we responsible, or is the customer responsible?

machinegunkelly · 05-31-2005, 02:25 PM

The more I read , the more I think yes ,
I didn't think it would apply to me at first so I never really paid attention ,

The way I see it basically if you have the images up , you need the papers ...

Lucky for me I'm in canada so I'll just be changing some hosting around and everything should be cool for now

machinegunkelly · 05-31-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire

I believe the question is...if we use pics within our design...are we responsible, or is the customer responsible?

I think he may mean posting the work in your portfolio ?

GatorB · 05-31-2005, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

web designers, template/tgp/gallery designers, graphic designers, ect

wether youre

in house

free lance

outsource

design firm

do you think 2257 applies to you?

read the regs.

jonesy · 05-31-2005, 02:30 PM

a company hires you to design and build one or all of the following

1 - a website, full tour and members area

2 - a tgp

3 - a movie gallery

your given content

you render content for the website and deliver the product

you sometimes upload it

do you as a designer fall under the laws of 2257?

GoodStuff · 05-31-2005, 02:36 PM

As long as it is on our servers, yes.

jonesy · 05-31-2005, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodStuff

As long as it is on our servers, yes.

........?

buboy · 06-01-2005, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

web designers, template/tgp/gallery designers, graphic designers, ect

wether youre

in house

free lance

outsource

design firm

do you think 2257 applies to you?

Just Have An Idea...regarding 2257 and its about child protection against exploitation...bu havent read the whole article...any link...thanks

Roald · 06-01-2005, 06:24 AM

As far as I heard yes it does apply for us designers in some cases.

NickPapageorgio · 06-01-2005, 06:33 AM

The only way I would think it applies to me is if I have explicit samples listed on my portfolio site. Otherwise, as long as the content that I am building the site/creative with is owned by the client, I can't see where I am responsible for it at all. Now, if I am going to show that design in my portfolio online, then it's another story. That's how I would see that.

Roald · 06-01-2005, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

....Now, if I am going to show that design in my portfolio online, then it's another story. That's how I would see that.

Thats the point of this thread I think.

WebTitan · 06-01-2005, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

The only way I would think it applies to me is if I have explicit samples listed on my portfolio site. Otherwise, as long as the content that I am building the site/creative with is owned by the client, I can't see where I am responsible for it at all. Now, if I am going to show that design in my portfolio online, then it's another story. That's how I would see that.

this is how i read it myself

Audrey · 06-01-2005, 07:06 AM

I'm hosting in canada

s9ann0 · 06-01-2005, 07:15 AM

2257 is the end of adult internet design!

jacked · 06-01-2005, 07:28 AM

i can see where this can be a problem especially with our portfolios because 9 out of 10 times their is a few nude images built into the design, and it's just as accessible to anyone who wanted to view it.

i'm guessing were gonna get fucked into having to keep all the documents for the content we incorporate into the designs

Roald · 06-01-2005, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacked

i can see where this can be a problem especially with our portfolios because 9 out of 10 times their is a few nude images built into the design, and it's just as accessible to anyone who wanted to view it.

i'm guessing were gonna get fucked into having to keep all the documents for the content we incorporate into the designs

just take down the portfolio

LadyMischief · 06-01-2005, 07:47 AM

Actually if you read the regulations closely, designers would fall into the same category as film processors etc.. we are providing a service, but we don't profit off the final product aside from the fee for our services.. The only time it would be applicable is for the content in our portfolios

LadyMischief · 06-01-2005, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audrey

I'm hosting in canada

How the hell does that change anything?>

Platinumpimp · 06-01-2005, 07:53 AM

Most of the work I do are vectors and custom drawn by me.

Platinumpimp · 06-01-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe

just take down the portfolio

LOL

jonesy · 06-01-2005, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Actually if you read the regulations closely, designers would fall into the same category as film processors etc.. we are providing a service, but we don't profit off the final product aside from the fee for our services.. The only time it would be applicable is for the content in our portfolios

agreed

i would even doubt that 2257 would apply to an artists portfolio because the images in the portfolio arent for sale as a tangible item, ie a book video ect - just an example of a designers skills.

but thats not to say its not worth getting a professional opinion either.

NickPapageorgio · 06-01-2005, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

agreed

i would even doubt that 2257 would apply to an artists portfolio because the images in the portfolio arent for sale as a tangible item, ie a book video ect - just an example of a designers skills.

but thats not to say its not worth getting a professional opinion either.

I wouldn't go that far.

It's still an image that can be accessed on the internet that shows explicit content. I would think that no matter if it's tangible or not, it still must have docs if you are going to display it freely.

zentz · 06-01-2005, 05:24 PM

2257 sucks

jonesy · 06-01-2005, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

I wouldn't go that far.

It's still an image that can be accessed on the internet that shows explicit content. I would think that no matter if it's tangible or not, it still must have docs if you are going to display it freely.

a designer is not a purveyor of porn.

im not disagreeing with you that designers may fall under 2257 but i agree with this part of lady mischiefs post

designers would fall into the same category as film processors etc.. we are providing a service, but we don't profit off the final product aside from the fee for our services

so by your estimation, any website wether adult or not, that has a porn pic must have a 2257?

2 questions for you nick

what industry is 2257 intended for and who do you think the goverment is going to look at first in regards to violations?

sure as fuck isnt gonna be a website designer.

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