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NoCarrier 06-01-2005 09:48 AM

100 DOGS with MANBOOBS

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
"The Advertiser changed the Banner" excuse is pure BULLSHIT.

SleazyDream uploaded the horizontal.js file with the kinkyceline URL in there to his own server (proof above)

How should the advertiser be able to change that?


simple - an advertiser can change the banner - they host it - not me. duuuuu

but i guess it's impossible to change a landing page :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

it's a pre-paid banner ad - think about it, that space is usually sold out with a waiting list, why would I even consider to put something risky in there.

Mike A 06-01-2005 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier
Do you really believe everything you read on the internet (and on GFY)? I am disappointed in you. I didn't know you had large buttons.

CDSmith is a cunt

baddog 06-01-2005 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCat
This was not Sleazydreams fault. Celine slipped a quicky on CyberCat


Smells like a lawsuit.

baddog 06-01-2005 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike A
CDSmith is a cunt


you are an idiot

nastyking 06-01-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
simple - an advertiser can change the banner - they host it - not me. duuuuu

but i guess it's impossible to change a landing page :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

it's a pre-paid banner ad - think about it, that space is usually sold out with a waiting list, why would I even consider to put something risky in there.

should I draw a picture for you?

The horizontal.js file on YOUR server contained the URL kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html

How was it put there? Do you give advertisers write access to your server?

3piece chicken Dinner 06-01-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
origional banner WAS reviewed - clients host thier own banners - it was changed without our knowledge.


Clients host their own banners??? well that explains it all :thumbsup :thumbsup maybe someone might want to look into changing that. Less risk if you KNOW what your displaying.

chadglni 06-01-2005 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
"The Advertiser changed the Banner" excuse is pure BULLSHIT.

SleazyDream uploaded the horizontal.js file with the kinkyceline URL in there to his own server (proof above)

How should the advertiser be able to change that?

Welcome to the internet shit for brains. We have scripts these days that handle that.

SmokeyTheBear 06-01-2005 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3piece chicken Dinner
Clients host their own banners??? well that explains it all :thumbsup :thumbsup maybe someone might want to look into changing that. Less risk if you KNOW what your displaying.


I suggested that on page#2.. I also mentioned gfy does it the same way

chadglni 06-01-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
should I draw a picture for you?

The horizontal.js file on YOUR server contained the URL kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html

How was it put there? Do you give advertisers write access to your server?

I'll tell you what. Let me give you a banner and index page to link to, and lets see if we can dupe this situation.

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
I notice gfy does that too.. not a very smart idea in the future maybe :2 cents: ( letting your advertisers host their own banners )

I could see it being used to influence peddle or politically, or by hackers..

If they hack your advertisers server, they can promote messages via images on your site.

Or even by mistake ( i.e. a picture gets changed )

I hope you at least limit the image size on your end ? so someone cant buy an ad spot , swap the banner out for a 8000x8000 pixel picture and rake in the cash


yes - that's done. i'm not saying it's impossible to cheat me - but with my monitaring and cybercat's moinitaring and GFY's monitaring when someone does cheat they get caught QUICK and they pretty much end their ability to work in the TGP marketplace ever again as cybercat and GTS do talk to each other about people who cheat them.

so cheating on a TGP that uses cybercat or GTS is pretty much a one time career ending thing.

besides - people that think like that are small time - there is SOOO much more money to be made in long term stable advertising for me and my clients that it shows simple stupidity to use cheating methods and it's pretty much only the people who can't sell in the first place that have to resort to such methods.

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
I'll tell you what. Let me give you a banner and index page to link to, and lets see if we can dupe this situation.


lol - exactly. :thumbsup

Theo 06-01-2005 09:58 AM

you got an answer. SD's ad inventory doesnt have problem to get sold, the rest is waste of time.

NoCarrier 06-01-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike A
CDSmith is a cunt

Well, you can now add *clueless* to that statement. :1orglaugh

Juicy D. Links 06-01-2005 10:01 AM

Emu says your all silly fools

http://www.gl4l.com/images/emu.gif

Xster 06-01-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry
I may not agree with certain niches, but to each his own I always say. If he can make money off it, whether it be for himself or a sold spot, then more power to him.

Are you ok? Beastiality is Illegal and cruelty to animals. So your telling me if he was posting a link to a kiddy porn site with YOUR KID on the splash page, that would be ok too? Or to a site with your cat or dog getting molested that would be ok too? Your an friggin' idiot.

SmokeyTheBear 06-01-2005 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
yes - that's done. i'm not saying it's impossible to cheat me - but with my monitaring and cybercat's moinitaring and GFY's monitaring when someone does cheat they get caught QUICK and they pretty much end their ability to work in the TGP marketplace ever again as cybercat and GTS do talk to each other about people who cheat them.

so cheating on a TGP that uses cybercat or GTS is pretty much a one time career ending thing.

besides - people that think like that are small time - there is SOOO much more money to be made in long term stable advertising for me and my clients that it shows simple stupidity to use cheating methods and it's pretty much only the people who can't sell in the first place that have to resort to such methods.

This is very true..

But lets use a better example.. Lets say your competition hired someone to hack your advertiser and replace the banners with a large image that said the website was shutdown by the f.b.i. and everyone who visited the site will be i.p. logged. It would likely be very destructive for traffic. Just a suggestion anyways.

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
This is very true..

But lets use a better example.. Lets say your competition hired someone to hack your advertiser and replace the banners with a large image that said the website was shutdown by the f.b.i. and everyone who visited the site will be i.p. logged. It would likely be very destructive for traffic. Just a suggestion anyways.

i don't believe people are bad. I believe people are good. what comes around goes around.


anyone who wants to deliberatly hurt someone else's business can do it for a VERY short term. high teck or low teck. it's not hard. Reality is If I wanted to get your house searched and torn appart by the rcmp i could do it. But why? focusing on one's own busniess is WAY more productive than looking at others and worring about them.

SmokeyTheBear 06-01-2005 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i don't believe people are bad. I believe people are good.

Famous last words haha

Actually i basically feel the same way ( even though sometimes i think its my biggest fault )

Im just saying in the future it might be usefull for both 2257 regs and other reasons to have a seperate server for images than for text, and for advertisers and inhouse stuff. :)

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Famous last words haha

Actually i basically feel the same way ( even though sometimes i think its my biggest fault )

Im just saying in the future it might be usefull for both 2257 regs and other reasons to have a seperate server for images than for text, and for advertisers and inhouse stuff. :)


it's been discussed and it's a serious possibility in the future.

SmokeyTheBear 06-01-2005 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
Reality is If I wanted to get your house searched and torn appart by the rcmp i could do it.

Actually , you couldn't for other reasons :) ( although dont make a test of it :Oh crap :( )

BradShaw 06-01-2005 10:15 AM

TGP times are tough, never thought Sleazy would injure dogs though.

chadglni 06-01-2005 10:16 AM

I like the kinder, gentler Smokey and Sleazy. :1orglaugh

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
TGP times are tough, never thought Sleazy would injure dogs though.

someday i'll make some money from this tgp thing

SmokeyTheBear 06-01-2005 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
I like the kinder, gentler Smokey and Sleazy. :1orglaugh

I just got out of hibernation , wait till i get some salmon in me ...

fris 06-01-2005 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
simple - an advertiser can change the banner - they host it - not me. duuuuu

but i guess it's impossible to change a landing page :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

it's a pre-paid banner ad - think about it, that space is usually sold out with a waiting list, why would I even consider to put something risky in there.

scott is it a rotating ad? or only one banner per month?

if so i will hit up cybercat and do some business

nastyking 06-01-2005 10:25 AM

One question still remains unanswered:

How was the kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html URL placed in SleazyDream's banner rotation file?

A.) You, SleazyDream, edited the file yourself and put the kinkyceline URL there?

B.) You, SleazyDream, give your advertisers write access to your server so they can change the target URLs?

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
One question still remains unanswered:

How was the kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html URL placed in SleazyDream's banner rotation file?

A.) You, SleazyDream, edited the file yourself and put the kinkyceline URL there?

B.) You, SleazyDream, give your advertisers write access to your server so they can change the target URLs?

are you a complete and total moron?

read the thread and you'll figgure it out.

ohh wait -that's assuming you HAVE a brain. from this response it's obvious you don't

nastyking 06-01-2005 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
are you a complete idiot?

answer it. A or B! It's really simple ..

chadglni 06-01-2005 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
are you a complete idiot?

:upsidedow

Theo 06-01-2005 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
One question still remains unanswered:

How was the kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html URL placed in SleazyDream's banner rotation file?

A.) You, SleazyDream, edited the file yourself and put the kinkyceline URL there?

B.) You, SleazyDream, give your advertisers write access to your server so they can change the target URLs?


C) kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html existed before with different content maybe?

chadglni 06-01-2005 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
answer it. A or B! It's really simple ..

Fact is, it doesn't matter either damn way. Why don't you unplug and think for 2 seconds before responding.

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
answer it. A or B! It's really simple ..

the answer is c - and you are an idiot.

advertisers don't have access to my server. they host their own banners and sites though - and those can be changed. it's not allowed in the contract but some people are cheats.

SleazyDream 06-01-2005 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
C) kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html existed before with different content maybe?


always wash your hands after touching a troll

StuartD 06-01-2005 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
One question still remains unanswered:

How was the kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html URL placed in SleazyDream's banner rotation file?

A.) You, SleazyDream, edited the file yourself and put the kinkyceline URL there?

B.) You, SleazyDream, give your advertisers write access to your server so they can change the target URLs?

You're really trying way to hard here and just making yourself look foolish. You are clearly not a programmer, I'm even beginning to question if you're a webmater in light of this total lack of understanding as to how websites work.

I'd stop now while you're not too far behind.

nastyking 06-01-2005 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
C) kinkyceline.---/indexsd.html existed before with different content maybe?

so, actually it's answer A - SleazyDream put the kinkyceline URL there.

but ...

that page IS and WAS always a beastiality site.

check http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...line.CENSORED/

so?

Pornopat 06-01-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy
Celine is a regular buyer on TheHun right??? How is that not representing any sites that support beast? Don't wanna bash you because you people are the best but I do remember seeing her banner on TheHun a lot.

The Hun does NOT show any beasts.
They changed their policy half a year ago.
:2 cents:

SmokeyTheBear 06-01-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
so, actually it's answer A - SleazyDream put the kinkyceline URL there.

but ...

that page IS and WAS always a beastiality site.

check http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...line.CENSORED/

so?

Assuming only he has write access to the js , but i think he has explained the js can be modified thru a scipt the advertiser has control of.. there is no drama

tranza 06-01-2005 10:52 AM

Sig too big Sleazy....

nastyking 06-01-2005 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Assuming only he has write access to the js , but i think he has explained the js can be modified thru a scipt the advertiser has control of.. there is no drama

bullshit. what purpose would that have to allow the advertiser to change the target URLs? it allows ONLY cheating and has no benefit ...

it's like allowing a TGP submitter to change the URL of the gallery he submitted after it was approved.

makes no sense :2 cents:

Theo 06-01-2005 10:58 AM

It could be also the page had different content and none checked the root domain. kinky <> beast. I buy banner spots from several sites and I'm sure none of the tech guys that put the page up ever check what i host on the root domain. It could be many things, but I'm confident he did not put the banner on purpose. Unless he has a hidden fetish (lol) I can tell you SD has enough advertisers not to market his site to webmasters he meets. Something most would do.

nastyking 06-01-2005 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
It could be also the page had different content and none checked the root domain. kinky <> beast.

so, you are telling me that CyberCat sends URLs to SleazyDream for approval and does not bother to inform him that one of them is a well-known beastiality site?

StuartD 06-01-2005 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
It could be also the page had different content and none checked the root domain. kinky <> beast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking
so, you are telling me that CyberCat sends URLs to SleazyDream for approval and does not bother to inform him that one of them is a well-known beastiality site?

Wow are those two statements not even close to being the same.
Just to clarify what Soul_Rebel said in non programming terms...

kinky DOES NOT EQUAL beast

and the rest is plain english... I'd hope that I don't have to translate that.

Theo 06-01-2005 11:09 AM

are you into beastiality or something? I know like every adult site on earth and I didnt know kinkyceline is beastiality.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...inkyceline.com

doesnt look that well-known to me

JD 06-01-2005 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD
Wow are those two statements not even close to being the same.
Just to clarify what Soul_Rebel said in non programming terms...

kinky DOES NOT EQUAL beast

i would have said != but that's just me :upsidedow

Serge Litehead 06-01-2005 11:12 AM

i believe there is a fairly simple solution for glitches like this one.
use something like MD5 hashing on a file and check one in a while if md5 matches, if one bit changes there wont be a match.

with large scale sites its a must in my opinion. you can only host a banner but you need to be sure that landing page is in tact. I would let the advertisers host advertising media if they want. after you review new advertising and approve the content of the site and advertising media run md5 on banners, html file and all images withing that html. Then, run md5 every hour or so to check if md5 hash is the same if not, have the system alert you to check the content manually if there is a mismatch.

but i argee the drama is much better ;)

nastyking 06-01-2005 11:25 AM

I now have FINAL PROOF that SleazyDream knew that the Banner/URL contained beastiality.

The following HTTP Request reveals

Quote:

http://64.143.106.51/banner2.jpg

GET /banner2.jpg HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, application/x-icq, */*
Accept-Language: en-us
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Host: 64.143.106.51
Connection: Keep-Alive

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:15:41 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux)
Last-Modified: Mon, 23 May 2005 05:38:47 GMT
ETag: "50040-2f7b-7c56a7c0"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 12155
Connection: close
Content-Type: image/jpeg

Last-Modified: Mon, 23 May 2005

Conclusion: The file was not changed after SleazyDream approved it.


I'm off .. I let the GFY community decide on this.

(P.S: MaskedMan - I am a Programmer)

Serge Litehead 06-01-2005 11:28 AM

The point of my above post was to prevent content swapping it is technically possible to automatically check if the content of a file (any file) is changed and take necessary actions before drama explodes.

escorpio 06-01-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
actually look at the replies - it's only choker and his no name trolls that jump all over me. anyone who HAS a clue about this biz realizes that, anyone who doesn't deals with choker and thinks they are in the porn biz cause they spend $50 a month with him.

Lighten up. Choker cracked a joke or two and let it go, he didn't "jump all over you." He obviously realized what happened and how easily it could happen to anybody.

3piece chicken dinner posted - "Hell Choker poked a little fun at him, but he even realized this was an obvious mistake by someone other than Sleazy."

This was the impression I got. A lot of people that like to clown on you felt sincerely sorry for you, myself included.

And no, this no name troll does not and never has spent any money with Choker.

Now be nice or Burger Boy will become Beastie Boy! :winkwink:

Cains 06-01-2005 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
you are an idiot

Come on Baddog, I've gotten to your posts stating something useful and intelligent that I can learn from. Don't start stating the obvious :winkwink:


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