myVirtualCard Announcement - GoFuckYourself.com

jungar · 05-27-2005, 10:46 AM

To the GFY Community,

Effective IMMEDIATELY, myVirtualCard has decided to cease processing for underage modeling sites.

As stated last week, we were in the process of removing these sites. By Midnight tonight (12:00AM Eastern Standard Time, May 28th ), we will no longer process for these websites. We have asked all merchants dealing with these sorts of websites to remove our pay buttons from their webpages, and any other affiliation with myVirtualCard. As of midnight tonight, all underage modeling sites will be terminated.

myVirtualCard has always been and continues to be committed to the adult industry. We will continue to do our absolute best to service our clients. We would also like to reaffirm our commitment to be a trusted and reliable force in the adult industry.

We would like to thank the GFY community for voicing your opinion, and we welcome your comments and questions on the matter.

Regards,

The myVirtualCard Team

Theo · 05-27-2005, 10:47 AM

good move MVC

dready · 05-27-2005, 10:54 AM

Glad to hear this.

TMM_John · 05-27-2005, 10:54 AM

Great move guys. We're more than happy to see that you have reconsidered processing for these sites and are making a move in the right direction.

nnweb · 05-27-2005, 11:05 AM

should have done this from the get go.

Snake Doctor · 05-27-2005, 11:10 AM

Too little too late IMO.......oh we don't support KP "anymore" so it's ok to do business with us.

Bullshit

Damian_Maxcash · 05-27-2005, 11:12 AM

Good move.....

Sometimes it feels good to be a part of GFY... not often.... but sometimes

pornguy · 05-27-2005, 11:18 AM

I would never have started processing for something like that.

machinegunkelly · 05-27-2005, 11:20 AM

too little , too late .

the fact that they did at all is bad enough

SleazyDream · 05-27-2005, 11:20 AM

so are they back on nats now?

Dirty F · 05-27-2005, 11:23 AM

It was easy money as long as you stayed under the radar. After some negative attention on a big board a couple of times and people dropping you you suddenly change your policy.
How sad.

If noone has brought you heat here you still wouldve processed for sites with 8 yr old girls you sick fuckers.

Fucking hypocrite pedos.

Dirty F · 05-27-2005, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

too little , too late .

the fact that they did at all is bad enough

Exactly.

NaughtyRob · 05-27-2005, 11:24 AM

Good move. Maybe a little too late though.

jungar · 05-27-2005, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

It was easy money as long as you stayed under the radar. After some negative attention on a big board a couple of times and people dropping you you suddenly change your policy.
How sad.

If noone has brought you heat here you still wouldve processed for sites with 8 yr old girls you sick fuckers.

Fucking hypocrite pedos.

That is incorrect. Our plan has been known for many months to get rid of these merchants.

Mike A · 05-27-2005, 11:27 AM

i just wanted to start an underage model site, what processor should i use now?

Dirty F · 05-27-2005, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungar

That is incorrect. Our plan has been known for many months to get rid of these merchants.

1: Why did you do it in the first place?
2: Why did it take months to stop them?

Dirty F · 05-27-2005, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike A

i just wanted to start an underage model site, what processor should i use now?

A Russian one ofcourse

The biggest pedo processors are not processing anymore, Verotel and MVC.

born · 05-27-2005, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

too little , too late .

the fact that they did at all is bad enough

I agree... WTF was MVC thinking... duh!!!!

WiredGuy · 05-27-2005, 11:35 AM

Better late than never.
WG

NaughtyRob · 05-27-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike A

i just wanted to start an underage model site, what processor should i use now?

Try Paypal idiot.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-27-2005, 11:38 AM

Well i think its good you guys are taking a stand now. I'm not sure your credibility will get any better for a few years though..

From following the links lee posted , it becomes rather obvious mvc is the main processor for these type of sites ( legal , maybe , sick yes )

So by closing those accounts you will obviously be losing a big profit maker, so that in itself says VOLUMES to me. and kudos for the move..

Many times peoples views do not follow the LAWS.
IBILL STOLE people's money ( illegal ). Yet gfy still advertises them
MVC processes sick sites ( legal? ) yet gfy pulled them. ( dont get me wrong i agree with the move )

It just shows that "legal" and "illegal" dont really mean much in the business world , its all about the money.

MVC realises they will make more money by NOT alienating the rest of the world by processing questionable sites

Libertine · 05-27-2005, 11:40 AM

Anyone remember the thread that started it al?

I am always right

WebTitan · 05-27-2005, 11:42 AM

about f'ing time

sexyclicks · 05-27-2005, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

2: Why did it take months to stop them?

takes a few months to setup a new company with a new name

Digipimp · 05-27-2005, 11:46 AM

cool, now upgrade the account admin interface, it sucks

Damian_Maxcash · 05-27-2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Well i think its good you guys are taking a stand now. I'm not sure your credibility will get any better for a few years though..

From following the links lee posted , it becomes rather obvious mvc is the main processor for these type of sites ( legal , maybe , sick yes )

So by closing those accounts you will obviously be losing a big profit maker, so that in itself says VOLUMES to me. and kudos for the move..

Many times peoples views do not follow the LAWS.
IBILL STOLE people's money ( illegal ). Yet gfy still advertises them
MVC processes sick sites ( legal? ) yet gfy pulled them. ( dont get me wrong i agree with the move )

It just shows that "legal" and "illegal" dont really mean much in the business world , its all about the money.

MVC realises they will make more money by NOT alienating the rest of the world by processing questionable sites

Maybe it is all about the money.... but I like to think that at least some of people, some of the time have morals as well.

MVC have been rebilling upto $99 a month for this shit.... Thats a lot of cash to lose.

We asked them to stop and it seems they have...... Maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt this time

Dopy · 05-27-2005, 11:51 AM

Good news - now they will all be running round like headless chickens again looking for a billing Co.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-27-2005, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

Maybe it is all about the money.... but I like to think that at least some of people, some of the time have morals as well.

If it was just about the morals , they wouldn't have authorized the sites to begin with.. So its obviouslt not about morals..

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

MVC have been rebilling upto $99 a month for this shit.... Thats a lot of cash to lose.

We asked them to stop and it seems they have...... Maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt this time

I will give them a chance , but its going to take awhile.. first we have to wait and make sure they didnt just make another company name and tell all the pedo sites to switch to the new company..

Theo · 05-27-2005, 11:54 AM

I can recall 3 other major processors that 3 years ago or less were processing for same sites. That's for those that weren't around or have short memories.

MacDaddyPlaya · 05-27-2005, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Too little too late IMO.......oh we don't support KP "anymore" so it's ok to do business with us.

Bullshit

The Mac agrees

teksonline · 05-27-2005, 12:16 PM

"That is incorrect. Our plan has been known for many months to get rid of these merchants...."

oh my God, are you their spokesperson

1: Why did you do it in the first place?
They probably needed someone to proccess their own underage sites.

2: Why did it take months to stop them?
They need the money... It's obviously a company not built for long term..
Who on the right mind would use CP to build a business name...
They sucked the funds out, thats obvious, but tarnished their name in doing so... Can you say no college degree?

See ya'll users later when GFY posts announce MVC are not responding, errr are nowhere to be found

Lensman · 05-27-2005, 12:37 PM

This is great news, I knew they would do the right thing.

jungar · 05-27-2005, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

"That is incorrect. Our plan has been known for many months to get rid of these merchants...."

oh my God, are you their spokesperson

Yes, actually I am their spokesperson

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

1: Why did you do it in the first place?
They probably needed someone to proccess their own underage sites.

No, we do not run paysites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

2: Why did it take months to stop them?
They need the money... It's obviously a company not built for long term..
Who on the right mind would use CP to build a business name...
They sucked the funds out, thats obvious, but tarnished their name in doing so... Can you say no college degree?

We have been in business for 3 years; if we were not built for the long term, we would not have gotten rid of these merchants. With regards to your comment on our education, that is patently false. If you want to talk further with us about our longevity, come drop by our booth at InterNext, or come see us at the show in San Diego.

We stand behind our name. We regret that we made some poor choices, but we are here to fix it.

DutchTeenCash · 05-27-2005, 12:57 PM

Its a step but like many said wrong choice from the beginning on.

chupachups · 05-27-2005, 12:58 PM

Very good move Josh, I am very happy to hear that

Anyone who is looking for a 3rd party processor should talk to MVC. We have been using them for about an year and so far their services has been nothing but great!

Thee Johnclave · 05-27-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungar

Yes, actually I am their spokesperson

No, we do not run paysites.

We have been in business for 3 years; if we were not built for the long term, we would not have gotten rid of these merchants. With regards to your comment on our education, that is patently false. If you want to talk further with us about our longevity, come drop by our booth at InterNext, or come see us at the show in San Diego.

We stand behind our name. We regret that we made some poor choices, but we are here to fix it.

In the event that you missed the questions as posted by Franck...

1: Why did you do it in the first place?
2: Why did it take months to stop them?

cyber_ninja · 05-27-2005, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nnweb

should have done this from the get go.

exactly what i was going to say

Wiggles · 05-27-2005, 01:09 PM

shouldn't of processed them in the first place, why is everyone congradulating them?

jungar · 05-27-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMScore

In the event that you missed the questions as posted by Franck...

1: Why did you do it in the first place?
2: Why did it take months to stop them?

1) The nature of the business we took on is not illegal. The modeling sites we were processing for are not considered illegel, though some people consider it immoral. This was in no way CP or KP , because if it had been, our banks never would have approved these sites. As I have already stated, We made a bad call.

2) As I have explained in earlier threads, we had to slowly phase out these merchants, lest we risk excessive chargebacks etc... If we would have killed their billing on the spot, the merchants could have potentially asked their clients to file a chargeback. We have been getting rid of these merchants slowly for months already.

teksonline · 05-27-2005, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungar

1) The nature of the business we took on is not illegal. The modeling sites we were processing for are not considered illegel, though some people consider it immoral. This was in no way CP or KP , because if it had been, our banks never would have approved these sites. As I have already stated, We made a bad call.

2) As I have explained in earlier threads, we had to slowly phase out these merchants, lest we risk excessive chargebacks etc... If we would have killed their billing on the spot, the merchants could have potentially asked their clients to file a chargeback. We have been getting rid of these merchants slowly for months already.

It took nats to get you to stop, you say you been wanting to do it for months, but since announcement you've done it immediately? and you been slowly getting rid of them, name some sites you have slowly removed? lol

Have you ever seen how these sites are promoted? I have run across them, its a bunch of fucking childporn keyword top lists promoting undersaged teens
then they might have some non nude content pay site... thats fucked up that you are pleading ignorance and legality. you dam well know it's tied to KP

If their promotion is illegal how can their site be? the content may be legal, but definatealy not how its marketed..

Hinc · 05-27-2005, 02:50 PM

Good move, whatever the reason.

hova · 05-27-2005, 02:51 PM

about time

Dalai lama · 05-27-2005, 02:52 PM

Good move guys.

MaDalton · 05-27-2005, 02:55 PM

i'm glad they did the move to get rid of those sites. i know the guys at MVC are standup people, just doing some stupid decisions at the beginning which they probably regret now. but they treated me always well, so i will give them the chance to build their reputation again.

TheWylders · 05-27-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungar

To the GFY Community,

Effective IMMEDIATELY, myVirtualCard has decided to cease processing for underage modeling sites.

We would like to thank the GFY community for voicing your opinion, and we welcome your comments and questions on the matter.

This is a perfect example of how the adult industry polices itself.

Good Work!

webspider · 05-27-2005, 03:25 PM

Good move!

V_RocKs · 05-27-2005, 03:47 PM

Why did they do the sites in the first place? Because they are not in the US, and the majority of their surfers are not in the US. MVC is a huge processor for European countries. They are one of the few that can handle just about any form of payment imaginable. In Europe there are literally hundreds of different debit cards, debit accounts, etc and MVC was the first to add them all.

So why did they do it though? Because in many other countries (particualarly in Europe) these sites are actually low key. As in softcore to the max. In some countries it is ok to post full nudity pics of children. They simply don't have a concept of it being CP. So when sites come along where the girls are still clothed it is almost rediculous to them. But to us in America it is only a step away from illegal (actually much of it is illegal because we have laws against children being spread eagle even when they are clothed).

So lets stop asking if a thumbs up is actually a flip-off in Japanese culture or a wave is actually a fuck-you in Norway and be thankful they stopped and now you all have an awesome way to collect funds from fucktards in countries with an antiquated debit system!

Look at the big picture folks, now you can work with these people and open up markets you couldn't touch before!

BillyHoe · 05-27-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungar

1) The nature of the business we took on is not illegal. The modeling sites we were processing for are not considered illegel, though some people consider it immoral. This was in no way CP or KP , because if it had been, our banks never would have approved these sites. As I have already stated, We made a bad call.

2) As I have explained in earlier threads, we had to slowly phase out these merchants, lest we risk excessive chargebacks etc... If we would have killed their billing on the spot, the merchants could have potentially asked their clients to file a chargeback. We have been getting rid of these merchants slowly for months already.

You mention you were phasing them out, for risk of charge backs, however as soon as Nats announced dropping you, you dropped all the sites immediately. Are you not still worried about chargebacks? and will this effect the stability of your company? That's alot of money to lose over night.

Don't take my comments the wrong way btw. I tip my hats to you for the bold move, it's not an easy move for any company to kiss that kind of revenue good bye over night.

chowda · 05-27-2005, 03:49 PM

hey, u guys process gambling related sites?

it said no casino's on ur site.. but i just wanted to know.

Terry · 05-27-2005, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungar

Effective IMMEDIATELY, myVirtualCard has decided to cease processing for underage modeling sites.

"Underage" eeeekk I hate that word... doesnt it mean CP?

05-27-2005, 10:46 AM	#1
jungar Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 377	myVirtualCard Announcement To the GFY Community, Effective IMMEDIATELY, myVirtualCard has decided to cease processing for underage modeling sites. As stated last week, we were in the process of removing these sites. By Midnight tonight (12:00AM Eastern Standard Time, May 28th ), we will no longer process for these websites. We have asked all merchants dealing with these sorts of websites to remove our pay buttons from their webpages, and any other affiliation with myVirtualCard. As of midnight tonight, all underage modeling sites will be terminated. myVirtualCard has always been and continues to be committed to the adult industry. We will continue to do our absolute best to service our clients. We would also like to reaffirm our commitment to be a trusted and reliable force in the adult industry. We would like to thank the GFY community for voicing your opinion, and we welcome your comments and questions on the matter. Regards, The myVirtualCard Team

05-27-2005, 10:54 AM	#3
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	Glad to hear this. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

05-27-2005, 10:54 AM	#4
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,664	Great move guys. We're more than happy to see that you have reconsidered processing for these sites and are making a move in the right direction. __________________ Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

05-27-2005, 11:10 AM	#6
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Too little too late IMO.......oh we don't support KP "anymore" so it's ok to do business with us. Bullshit __________________ sig too big

05-27-2005, 11:18 AM	#8
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I would never have started processing for something like that. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

05-27-2005, 10:47 AM	#2
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	good move MVC

05-27-2005, 11:05 AM	#5
nnweb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: OC Posts: 720	should have done this from the get go.

05-27-2005, 11:12 AM	#7
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Good move..... Sometimes it feels good to be a part of GFY... not often.... but sometimes

05-27-2005, 11:20 AM	#9
machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,285	too little , too late . the fact that they did at all is bad enough __________________ dead.

05-27-2005, 11:20 AM	#10
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	so are they back on nats now? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

05-27-2005, 11:23 AM	#11
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	It was easy money as long as you stayed under the radar. After some negative attention on a big board a couple of times and people dropping you you suddenly change your policy. How sad. If noone has brought you heat here you still wouldve processed for sites with 8 yr old girls you sick fuckers. Fucking hypocrite pedos.

05-27-2005, 11:24 AM	#13
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05-27-2005, 11:27 AM	#15
Mike A Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 82	i just wanted to start an underage model site, what processor should i use now? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

05-27-2005, 11:35 AM	#19
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,487	Better late than never. WG __________________ I play with Google.

05-27-2005, 11:38 AM	#21
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Well i think its good you guys are taking a stand now. I'm not sure your credibility will get any better for a few years though.. From following the links lee posted , it becomes rather obvious mvc is the main processor for these type of sites ( legal , maybe , sick yes ) So by closing those accounts you will obviously be losing a big profit maker, so that in itself says VOLUMES to me. and kudos for the move.. Many times peoples views do not follow the LAWS. IBILL STOLE people's money ( illegal ). Yet gfy still advertises them MVC processes sick sites ( legal? ) yet gfy pulled them. ( dont get me wrong i agree with the move ) It just shows that "legal" and "illegal" dont really mean much in the business world , its all about the money. MVC realises they will make more money by NOT alienating the rest of the world by processing questionable sites __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

05-27-2005, 11:40 AM	#22
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05-27-2005, 11:42 AM	#23
WebTitan Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western NY Posts: 5,114	about f'ing time

05-27-2005, 11:46 AM	#25
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	cool, now upgrade the account admin interface, it sucks __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

05-27-2005, 11:51 AM	#27
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	Good news - now they will all be running round like headless chickens again looking for a billing Co.

05-27-2005, 11:54 AM	#29
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I can recall 3 other major processors that 3 years ago or less were processing for same sites. That's for those that weren't around or have short memories.

05-27-2005, 12:16 PM	#31
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	"That is incorrect. Our plan has been known for many months to get rid of these merchants...." oh my God, are you their spokesperson 1: Why did you do it in the first place? They probably needed someone to proccess their own underage sites. 2: Why did it take months to stop them? They need the money... It's obviously a company not built for long term.. Who on the right mind would use CP to build a business name... They sucked the funds out, thats obvious, but tarnished their name in doing so... Can you say no college degree? See ya'll users later when GFY posts announce MVC are not responding, errr are nowhere to be found

05-27-2005, 12:37 PM	#32
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	This is great news, I knew they would do the right thing.

05-27-2005, 12:57 PM	#34
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05-27-2005, 12:58 PM	#35
chupachups Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden/Spain you sum bitch! Posts: 6,576	Very good move Josh, I am very happy to hear that Anyone who is looking for a 3rd party processor should talk to MVC. We have been using them for about an year and so far their services has been nothing but great! __________________

05-27-2005, 01:09 PM	#38
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	shouldn't of processed them in the first place, why is everyone congradulating them? __________________ no sig

05-27-2005, 02:50 PM	#41
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05-27-2005, 02:51 PM	#42
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05-27-2005, 02:52 PM	#43
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05-27-2005, 02:55 PM	#44
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,829	i'm glad they did the move to get rid of those sites. i know the guys at MVC are standup people, just doing some stupid decisions at the beginning which they probably regret now. but they treated me always well, so i will give them the chance to build their reputation again. __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

05-27-2005, 03:25 PM	#46
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05-27-2005, 03:47 PM	#47
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Why did they do the sites in the first place? Because they are not in the US, and the majority of their surfers are not in the US. MVC is a huge processor for European countries. They are one of the few that can handle just about any form of payment imaginable. In Europe there are literally hundreds of different debit cards, debit accounts, etc and MVC was the first to add them all. So why did they do it though? Because in many other countries (particualarly in Europe) these sites are actually low key. As in softcore to the max. In some countries it is ok to post full nudity pics of children. They simply don't have a concept of it being CP. So when sites come along where the girls are still clothed it is almost rediculous to them. But to us in America it is only a step away from illegal (actually much of it is illegal because we have laws against children being spread eagle even when they are clothed). So lets stop asking if a thumbs up is actually a flip-off in Japanese culture or a wave is actually a fuck-you in Norway and be thankful they stopped and now you all have an awesome way to collect funds from fucktards in countries with an antiquated debit system! Look at the big picture folks, now you can work with these people and open up markets you couldn't touch before!

05-27-2005, 03:49 PM	#49
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