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Old 05-31-2005, 04:41 AM   #51
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just to update everyone...we went over, and she was really glad we did

my wife took over some clothes and they had a little fashion moment, and everything is cool...and she thanked us for butting in, it really cheered her up
glad it worked out... hope u don't have to go again


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Old 05-31-2005, 04:41 AM   #52
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Now throw out her drugs which are compounding (or created) the problem and you'll only have to do that so many times.
i never said she was doing any drugs whatsoever
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Old 05-31-2005, 04:56 AM   #53
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yeah id go there and bring some E just incase

DOSE HER UP!!!!!!!


well, that is the thing...she already has plenty of that around
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:12 AM   #54
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Not everyone that is depressed is weak minded, only most of them. I don't think there is a person on earth that doesn't go through some form of depression at one point or another. Some of them drag themselves up and take care of business regardless, while others curl up on the couch and cry to Dr. Phil all day.

If I went to her house the first thing I would do is toss the E in the toilet. Since that would probably just "depress" them more I'd be better off at home.
sorry but you don't have a freaking clue about what REAL depression is all about...
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:16 AM   #55
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:17 AM   #56
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sorry but you don't have a freaking clue about what REAL depression is all about...
Sorry but do you have a freaking clue about how many people have REAL depression....
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:20 AM   #57
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I don't know about the rest of the people here, but I always seem to have some drama in my life thats sets me back from what i really want to do, that is when i go into depression mode...I usually smoke weed to forget about it and operate like a normal person, as for asking friends for help, etc. Never have and never will, I stand on my own two feet like I always have since i was real young, I've been through alot of shit i'd say people don't even want to think about but let's just say i'm built alot better than most of people in terms of a strong mentality. :D
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:23 AM   #58
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this can be done over the phone & if she wants u, she will make her way over to you. outside of that, its her decision & her life. these are adults here, not children... no normal adult needs babysitting.



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have you ever had a real depression?
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:25 AM   #59
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sorry but you don't have a freaking clue about what REAL depression is all about...

exactly...though I do agree that too many people jus throw around the statement 'oh, i am so depressed' when they just mean they are down, etc. Any of us that have been really (as in a doctor would agree) depressed know it isn't something to throw aroundl
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:26 AM   #60
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:28 AM   #61
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have you ever had a real depression?

nope, studied it in school & in life... i don't need to have it to know not to fuck with people who do. its actually BECAUSE of these people i am encapable of sympathy. done.



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Old 05-31-2005, 05:30 AM   #62
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nope, studied it in school & in life... i don't need to have it to know not to fuck with people who do. its actually BECAUSE of these people i am encapable of sympathy. done.



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sorry..you don't have a clue until you have been there
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:31 AM   #63
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exactly...though I do agree that too many people jus throw around the statement 'oh, i am so depressed' when they just mean they are down, etc. Any of us that have been really (as in a doctor would agree) depressed know it isn't something to throw aroundl
I know exactly what real depression is. However it's funny that you added the (as in a doctor would agree) because a doctor will tell ANYONE that they are depressed. The entire system is corrupt when doctors get paid for prescriptions they write. You don't find it the least bit odd that every 5 to 10 years there is a new disease that's "plaguing" the entire population of developed countries and a plethora of drugs availabe to fix it? Then those same drugs cause people to get sick, die, or do retarded shit? Very, VERY few people are actually depressed in a medical sense but there are MILLIONS on drugs for it. It's not rocket science, it's a big ass dumbing down of the population combined with mass marketing that makes people rich. They are laughing at us, you can believe that.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:33 AM   #64
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sorry..you don't have a clue until you have been there

that's just stupid yo... stop gettin sensitive. so every psychiatrist has been there?



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well, my doctor isn't the type to just agree with anything. Then again, she is on the NHS and doesn't get paid to give out drugs. In FACT mine was very good and took me through non-drug methods on the grounds that drugs have too much long lasting effects on what might be a limited depression.

The mind is so powerful. I am beyond grateful that I made it through to the other side, that my head stopped swirrling, that i eventually saw the light at the end that I never thought I would see. I am even more grateful that I was taught how to notice the signs of an on-setting depression and fight against it. I have been lucky. I mean - I watched my husband die in front of me six months ago and yet have some how managed to keep myself out of a full blown depression. I have had moments when I start to slip and weeks where I have been teetering over the edge BUT having survived a REAL depression I now know there is a light at the end of the dark moments. However, I had to make it through the first one first to know that.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:39 AM   #66
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I know exactly what real depression is. However it's funny that you added the (as in a doctor would agree) because a doctor will tell ANYONE that they are depressed. The entire system is corrupt when doctors get paid for prescriptions they write. You don't find it the least bit odd that every 5 to 10 years there is a new disease that's "plaguing" the entire population of developed countries and a plethora of drugs availabe to fix it? Then those same drugs cause people to get sick, die, or do retarded shit? Very, VERY few people are actually depressed in a medical sense but there are MILLIONS on drugs for it. It's not rocket science, it's a big ass dumbing down of the population combined with mass marketing that makes people rich. They are laughing at us, you can believe that.

interesting points here... i do personally think its up to an individul to get themselves 2gether & find reasons to be happy if they can't be happy with the simplicity of HAVING life. i also think that no one should EVER waste their time trying to change ANYONE in ANY situation unless they have SHOWN they wish to make a change ON THEIR OWN. outside of that, u r wasting your time... sorry, change is the hardest thing for people to do & there's no forcing it (this includes a decision to be depressed - conscious or sub-conscious)


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well, my doctor isn't the type to just agree with anything. Then again, she is on the NHS and doesn't get paid to give out drugs. In FACT mine was very good and took me through non-drug methods on the grounds that drugs have too much long lasting effects on what might be a limited depression.

The mind is so powerful. I am beyond grateful that I made it through to the other side, that my head stopped swirrling, that i eventually saw the light at the end that I never thought I would see. I am even more grateful that I was taught how to notice the signs of an on-setting depression and fight against it. I have been lucky. I mean - I watched my husband die in front of me six months ago and yet have some how managed to keep myself out of a full blown depression. I have had moments when I start to slip and weeks where I have been teetering over the edge BUT having survived a REAL depression I now know there is a light at the end of the dark moments. However, I had to make it through the first one first to know that.
I never once doubted you about going through depression. However, the girl that was "so happy" because she did a fashion show with her friends is a perfect example. There are too many people with too many diseases these days. And as soon as the drug makers find their next gimmick they'll all have the next fad disease or ailment.
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...I am even more grateful that I was taught how to notice the signs of an on-setting depression and fight against it.....

this alone tells ALL. get out of the house & DO something. find a hobby, give your life some purpose OFFLINE. you don't need drugs or a counselor, you (and many others who are "teetering") just need to "get busy living"




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I never once doubted you about going through depression. However, the girl that was "so happy" because she did a fashion show with her friends is a perfect example. There are too many people with too many diseases these days. And as soon as the drug makers find their next gimmick they'll all have the next fad disease or ailment.

oh, I agree that 'happy pills' are handed out way too much. As far as this particular girl, who knows? I know I could feel okay for a short time and then slip right back..but without knowing her and her situation it is hard to tell.

It just gets frustrating when you hear some people essentially tell depressed people to 'snap out of it'. For me that would (and did) just give my brain fuel to wonder why I couldn't just snap out of it.
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this alone tells ALL. get out of the house & DO something. find a hobby, give your life some purpose OFFLINE. you don't need drugs or a counselor, you (and many others who are "teetering") just need to "get busy living"




*sorry 2 hear about your husband & i hope this dose of truth actually sinks in

well...honestly, anyone that didn't teeter on the edge of atlesat a mild depression after going through what I did isn't being honest with themselves. The body often goes into shock (mine did) and your mind follows and goes off in odd paths. To be honest, I think that part of the reason I have kept myself from going totally over that edge is because I have kept myself very busy. I have work to do, I have been spending a load more time with friends and traveling around and even just the time I have had to spend sorting out things related to his death (talking to various agencies, planning the funeral, etc) have kept me focused and busy. However, when things slow down I do sometimes feel it creeping in the back of my head. It is a worry that I am just masking it and then it will eventually take over..so far, so good. Anyway, half the fight is knowing you are a depressive (for real) and watching for the signs.
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person don't want me thjere
I don't bother going then

I mean.. try as you want, if person says they don't want ya there.. let them be
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just to update everyone...we went over, and she was really glad we did

my wife took over some clothes and they had a little fashion moment, and everything is cool...and she thanked us for butting in, it really cheered her up


why is she depressed anyway?


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i would...that's the least i could do in her state of depression.
i wouldn't know if she's fine if i wont try to find out.

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