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				How to make more than $10K in a month (for real)
			 
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	2) Keep doing so... 3) Stop asking how I can make $10K in a month and ask, how can I make 1 sale a week from what I did today. If you cannot make 1 sale a week on what you did today, find another fucking job man. 4) Disregard following rule #1 since you can do it on posted galleries or what ever the fuck you do. But just make sure to make 1 thing a day that will sell once a week for a long time. If you follow this simple fucking shit, here is what week 1 to 51 will look like. 0 140 280 420 560 700 840 980 1120 1260 1400 1540 1372 1512 1652 1792 1932 2072 2212 2352 2492 2632 2772 2912 2469.6 2609.6 2749.6 2889.6 3029.6 3169.6 3309.6 3449.6 3589.6 3729.6 3869.6 4009.6 3347.68 3487.68 3627.68 3767.68 3907.68 4047.68 4187.68 4327.68 4467.68 4607.68 4747.68 4887.68 4050.144 4190.144 4330.144 It is adjusted for an .08% dip every 3 months because you will undoubtly fuck up here and there. 1 sale a week from what you did today. 1 Year you will be making $120,000 a year. Have a nice day.  | 
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		 Interesting.  If anyone wants to make money off mainstream sites, email me at info at webmasterlabor dot com. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Any of pimprolls top notch sites would make 2 sales a day lol....... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 My content could be hosted in Guam, I still have to keep the full 2257 records. 
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 If any affiliate wants to retain "ownership" over the freesites / galleries by hosting on their own servers they are free to do that and we will work out a way for them to stay compliant. Guam.. lol 
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		 There is no way someone could make that much money from freesites alone whilst submitting just one per day. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 By looking at those numbers you are assuming that each site will get the same amount of traffic at week 51 as at week 2. It doesn't work that way. You get small numbers at first, then a few weeks into it, the numbers increase as more sites have got around to listing you then a week later it drops to a trickle while their list gets bigger and your site gets puched into the archives or so far down nobody makes it that far. By year's end it's a hit here and there. Sure it lasts a long fucking time, but the traffic numbers just aren't there from link lists. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 So if you are a gallery poster. You need to not only create a gallery but link it in ways that google with show it to enough people that it will continue to get 1 sale a week for a year. How do you do that? SEO tricks. If you do free sites it is even easier in my humble opinion because they can help do what I just stated for you. [hint][hint] If you don't like money, then you are right. Just stick your finger in your ass and another from the other hand in your nose and let the rest of us get rich.  | 
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		 I like how everyone here thinks he's only referring to free sites that will be submitted to link lists.  There are many, many kinds of free sites.  And if you really want SE traffic, you're kidding yourself if you think a link list free site is going to do well time after time. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 For $10,000 a month you only need to be doing $2250 a week. At week 51 your are doing $4330.14. So take $225 in hosting... you are actually making more and are ahead of the 10K'ers.  | 
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 I thought you were talking about the "traditional" style freesites. I know that SE specific sites are much much more productive and profitable. Which is why I said that you'll not continue to get the same amount of sales from any given site a year later as you did in the first week. Now, even with SE specific sites it's somewhat the same too. You can't count on generating the same amount of sales in week 25 from any given site as you did in the first week it was listed. SERPS change too often to guaranty a steady consistant flow of sales and traffic. Now... if you apply your train of thought to everything you do, of course, yes, I agree, you can make really good money. That's how it's done, stick at it, build build build and let the traffic do it's work. Build a gallery, freesite, tgp2, free pages, everything you do, do it on a daily basis. Your income will keep multiplying and multiplying. Just not as quick as you layed out in your initial post unless for some magic reason that every site generates a sale per week, every week of the year guaranteed. If it does, then you really did your homework and know a thing or two about selling. The general masses couldn't accomplish this though. We all know that. Not right away anyways. There's a learning curve and some people just don't know how to build initially to keep higher serps and to keep traffic flowing for long periods of time. And also, lots of people don't know how to "fix" a site that lost it's traffic base. Anyways, I've said too much /inteligence THERE'S NO MONEY IN BUILDING SITES FOLKS!!!  | 
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		 Right. That 8% will have compounded into 32% on the sites from the beginning of the year. Which is why after the first three months growth will drop significantly. Then again in another 3 months. This is only a baseline. You might have it happen to you on month 1 and then on 5, 10 and 11. You will see some fluctuation. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 There's no such thing as steady traffic. I have numbers to prove it, but it's not in my best interest to show the inner workings of the biz I work with/in. Anyways, those big guys may hit harder the first few days, then after that, it's trickle trickle trickle. It's getting to be just like TGP. So many more people are doing link list freesites now than just a couple years ago. Thus this is why people need to build sites on a daily basis to keep the steadiness. Submit one site to all the big guys and show me that the traffic is steady for 6 months on that one site. Impossible.  | 
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		 There's freesites that you submit to link lists like link-o-rama.com then there's other types of free sites for SEO or traffil filtering reasons. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i more interested in freesites (or any type of sites) designed for seo, any suggestions? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Stop reading through bbs boards and get back to work ! :P 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Damn Right I Kiss Ass! 
			
		
			
			
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