For those of you waiting for an injunction on 2257... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 05-27-2005, 09:11 AM

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xxxice · 05-27-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

It was not the FSC that told me the injunction only covered its members...it was a lawyer (and a very good one at that). Either way, it is very unlikely that the feds will seek to prosecute on a law that is currently enjoined, so people argueing both side are right to an extent.

Either way, its time we stopped argueing like a bunch of little bitches, band together, and support the only group that has offered even one glimmer of hope it this shitstorm...the FSC.

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com

No that is good I just wanted to know for sure I will be talking with my attorney hopefully Monday. Thanks for clarifying

FilthyRob · 05-27-2005, 09:16 AM

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xxxjay · 05-27-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

how about we fuck all with the arguing and join together for ONCE....there have been many times in the past we needed to, and didn't, and got fucked....how about we take this chance to show we are all NOT going to take it

That's exactly right...stop bitching and do something.

DWB · 05-27-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Really, the point is...support them and don't sit on the sidelines and complain when everything goes to shit...do something while you still can!

I am. I am booby trapping my office and hooking up high power electric lines to the handles of my drawers where I keep my records. If they come in my house without de-arming the power lines... it's bedtime for bonzo.

TheWylders · 05-27-2005, 06:41 PM

Just a thought, and xxxjay I'm not bashing the messenger here. I appreciate all the informative information of everones lawyers views on everything that's going on right now. Right now everybody is trying to figure all this shit out and each lawyer has a differnet view on some of the new regulations.
I also want to encourage everybody to join the FSC, they're fighting a good cause and if you're not a member you should be!

But now my thoughts on an injunction, as many have said once it is in place and even if it is only for members of the FSC it's likely the feds won't do anything to anyone. If they do, what keeps the person being targeted from joining the FSC after the fact. It's not like they're going to stop taking memberships. Even once the injunction is in place, the FSC is going to continue to need donations and memberships to keep up the fight until things are resolved and than there'll be new challenges to fight.

Also, wanted to get peoples thoughts on getting surfers and site members involved in this fight. Should we encourage them to donate to the FSC since ultimately this affects them too.

V_RocKs · 05-27-2005, 10:38 PM

3 Cheers for Choker!

seeric · 05-27-2005, 10:41 PM

bizzump for fsc

xxxjay · 05-28-2005, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I am. I am booby trapping my office and hooking up high power electric lines to the handles of my drawers where I keep my records. If they come in my house without de-arming the power lines... it's bedtime for bonzo.

That is a great idea!

DWB · 05-28-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

That is a great idea!

Now if we can all band together to booby trap our office... I think they would leave us alone after 3 or 4 inspections.

munki · 05-28-2005, 12:31 AM

I would love to join... but am starting my first venture... and along with mainstream ventures I'm broke... Simply can't afford if for at least a month or two... Oh well.. until then. Keep up the good fight FSC!!!

FightThisPatent · 05-28-2005, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

If there is an injunction filed by the Free Speech Coalition -- IT WILL ONLY COVER MEMBERS OF THE FSC. That is a fact. I disputed this yesterday with somebody on this board,

yes, that someone was me.. FightThe Patent... i recall you posting in very large caps in my thread titled: 2257 - Only FSC Members covered by injunction http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...&page=1&pp=50:

"I'm am calling a massive BULLSHIT ON THIS THREAD -- STOP READING IT NOW. Don't you find it funny that the guy who started this is selling a 2257 solution in his sig? An injunction is an injunction...don't waste you time with this thread!"

You retracting your "bullshit" statement to "someone" ? ibanker as well?

Fight the Saving Face!

dready · 05-28-2005, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

i spoke to a lawyer and this is his response:

In theory a injunction only protects individuals covered in the lawsuit.
Historically, the DOJ has not started seperate prosecutions when an
injunction has been entered. That would show disrespect for the court
system and the judge who entered the injunction.

He went on to say the best bet is to be compliant before June 23. The big question in my mind is how do they only protect fsc members without giving them a list of members. Did they answer that at the meeting?

This is scare tactics to drum up more donations. Sure, the more donations the better, but treat your members with some level of respect.

FightThisPatent · 05-28-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dready

...but treat your members with some level of respect.

You think that CURRENT members of FSC feel disrepected because the FSC has the position that only it's members would be covered by an injunction?

I would think that FSC members would approve of such statements because they are the ones putting money in to fund all of these activites, and probably are a little pissed all those that would get free rides.

FSC hasn't used this issue as a marketing vehicle to get new members, they have always been looking for members and donations for the 2257 issue. if anything, the injunction issue should just be the "icing on the cake" that gets people to finally join.

I have heard from many, including my attorney that an "injunction is an injunction", but what if FSC is completely correct? $300 a year for the level that most webmasters would be at is not that high of an expense, for so many that don't even retain an attorney.

Fight the members only!

dready · 05-28-2005, 07:52 AM

I'm not going to argue with you on this one Brandon, the more resources they have to fight this the better. As a non US citizen, I've made my donation.

Violetta · 05-28-2005, 03:07 PM

cool. bump

stev0 · 05-28-2005, 03:28 PM

The online donations to FSC seem to be offline

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TheWylders Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 623	Just a thought, and xxxjay I'm not bashing the messenger here. I appreciate all the informative information of everones lawyers views on everything that's going on right now. Right now everybody is trying to figure all this shit out and each lawyer has a differnet view on some of the new regulations. I also want to encourage everybody to join the FSC, they're fighting a good cause and if you're not a member you should be! But now my thoughts on an injunction, as many have said once it is in place and even if it is only for members of the FSC it's likely the feds won't do anything to anyone. If they do, what keeps the person being targeted from joining the FSC after the fact. It's not like they're going to stop taking memberships. Even once the injunction is in place, the FSC is going to continue to need donations and memberships to keep up the fight until things are resolved and than there'll be new challenges to fight. Also, wanted to get peoples thoughts on getting surfers and site members involved in this fight. Should we encourage them to donate to the FSC since ultimately this affects them too.

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