Richards Realm went paid submissions (35 bucks a month) - GoFuckYourself.com

xanthias · 05-26-2005, 12:46 PM

wow, now i know submitters are in for some shit. Richards Realm just went paid submission today for 35 bucks a month. allows for 3 submits a day and listing is not guaranteed. Free submissions are still around, but only 1 submission per day and the daily limit was already reached. looks like you have to fork over the cash to be on richards-realm now. what a sad day for submitters...

After Shock Media · 05-26-2005, 12:48 PM

Oh boo hoo. Looks like submitters will have to pay something if they want to make money. His site is not the first and will not be the last either. I personally find this to be a good thing.

DateDoc · 05-26-2005, 12:50 PM

Yup, the free ride is ending fast.

Fletch XXX · 05-26-2005, 12:50 PM

nice

everyone should charge

Theo · 05-26-2005, 12:51 PM

thats for free sites too?

Genie · 05-26-2005, 12:52 PM

Listings at thumbgenie will always be free buddies :D

broke · 05-26-2005, 12:52 PM

You're bitching about $35 a month?

If you can't make two sales on 90 listings on RR.. you're in the wrong business.

polish_aristocrat · 05-26-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke

You're bitching about $35 a month?

If you can't make two sales on 90 listings on RR.. you're in the wrong business.

who said he will get listed at all?

xanthias · 05-26-2005, 12:56 PM

i'm not bitching, i'm sharing :D it's just a shame seeing all the big guys heading for the hills so quickly. i like my free traffic...

Sly · 05-26-2005, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

thats for free sites too?

I submitted my free site about 30 minutes ago and didn't notice any change. I haven't submitted my gallery yet, but if I can submit 3 galleries a day, I don't think I have a problem paying $35 monthly. Richard's lists me everyday anyways...

69pornlinks · 05-26-2005, 01:11 PM

that's not bad at all

markyman · 05-26-2005, 01:31 PM

I signed up for the paid premium submit account, but wheres the link to the submit page? anyone? I must be blind

Sosa · 05-26-2005, 01:43 PM

looks like I'll be signing up soon.

Mpegmaster · 05-26-2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genie

Listings at thumbgenie will always be free buddies :D

But i am not able to get a partner's acc with you

pornstar2pac · 05-26-2005, 01:45 PM

sounds good to me

SleazyDream · 05-26-2005, 01:46 PM

rr is a great site

Barefootsies · 05-26-2005, 01:50 PM

Pay to play bitch.

SykkBoy · 05-26-2005, 01:50 PM

RR traffic is well worth the 35 clams per month

QuaWee · 05-26-2005, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

RR traffic is well worth the 35 clams per month

what he said

brand0n · 05-26-2005, 02:06 PM

honestly its about time

Bansheelinks · 05-26-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markyman

I signed up for the paid premium submit account, but wheres the link to the submit page? anyone? I must be blind

yeah no shit........

where is it richards?

Rui · 05-26-2005, 02:10 PM

So let me get this...you submit more than 1 fucking gallery per day and are bitching about paying $35/month to do so...gezzzz

teksonline · 05-26-2005, 02:11 PM

Sad day indeed, I just pulled the plug on our TGP promotion, more profitable angles to spend time on now that you have to pay.... $35 RR, $90 World Sex / Al4A, $49 Pink World, $10 Free Milf, etc etc, ends up around $500 + server bills, Sure if you can get 15-30 sales outta this you will seem ok, You forget you have to pay the kid that makes the galleries and submits them as well each day, which now makes it unproffitable.

Now with that said, if you own the program you are selling you are ok with some rebills, unfortunately this just killed every regular joe who submits for a hopeful $25 signup here and there...

Now only the big boy sponsors are left, soon it will saturate TGP's with all the FHG look and TGP sales will drop to even sadder conversion ratios.

Look at the top tgp's now, its all the same crap day in and day out... Those are just the paid listings thru 1-30, now with paid accounts...surfers are even more fucked with this move.....

LOSE/LOSE situation.
Thanks TGP's for making it rich off our content! Then fucking us on top of it lol.

Babagirls · 05-26-2005, 02:11 PM

$35 a *MONTH*? thats a little steep to not even have a guarenteed listing.
i'd rather pay $50 for 1 yr of submitting freesites to 'gold status' linklists.

digi · 05-26-2005, 02:12 PM

eh, Im not against paid submissions.. however to say its been a free ride isnt true. Content + hosting + design of gallery + the work of submitting it isnt free. Even when TGP's dont charge money they still get fresh content every day for their site.

flashfire · 05-26-2005, 02:14 PM

$35 is good and will weed out the newbs

Bansheelinks · 05-26-2005, 02:16 PM

bump

where is the link for paid submitters once again

Corleone · 05-26-2005, 02:19 PM

35 RR
90 al4a
some submit passes
.....

at the end you'll have to make 50 sales / month just to pay the passes and your host

Wiggles · 05-26-2005, 02:23 PM

seems to be the new trend lately, oh well

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-26-2005, 02:32 PM

Keeps tgp's clean and happy. Its the new wave folks.

Ray

Doctor Dre · 05-26-2005, 02:35 PM

Keep it going that way . I hope every big tgps offer that soon . Will filter out the stupid fuckers who aren'T smart enough to reinvest a bit of their money to get their business going .

Nylz · 05-26-2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

who said he will get listed at all?

If you don't get listed your galleries probably suck

thewebgarage · 05-26-2005, 02:36 PM

all good things eventually come to an end

teksonline · 05-26-2005, 02:38 PM

i think that makes MegaPussy.com TGP the highest traffic sending TGP left out there with free submits, (thats what my logs show for me) free partner account info is on their submit page if you are interested...
megapussy.com

chadglni · 05-26-2005, 02:39 PM

Charge the freeloaders!

$5 submissions · 05-26-2005, 02:41 PM

I remember a thread about Pay to Play in 2001. The guy who made the post almost got laughed off GFY. Almost funny how time flies. We haven't seen the end of the changes yet.

chadglni · 05-26-2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

Sad day indeed, I just pulled the plug on our TGP promotion, more profitable angles to spend time on now that you have to pay.... $35 RR, $90 World Sex / Al4A, $49 Pink World, $10 Free Milf, etc etc, ends up around $500 + server bills, Sure if you can get 15-30 sales outta this you will seem ok, You forget you have to pay the kid that makes the galleries and submits them as well each day, which now makes it unproffitable.

Now with that said, if you own the program you are selling you are ok with some rebills, unfortunately this just killed every regular joe who submits for a hopeful $25 signup here and there...

Now only the big boy sponsors are left, soon it will saturate TGP's with all the FHG look and TGP sales will drop to even sadder conversion ratios.

Look at the top tgp's now, its all the same crap day in and day out... Those are just the paid listings thru 1-30, now with paid accounts...surfers are even more fucked with this move.....

LOSE/LOSE situation.
Thanks TGP's for making it rich off our content! Then fucking us on top of it lol.

You know, as much as TGPs have fucked conversion ratios in this industry it's about time they start to clean up and make some money in the process. Want to give away free porn for stray sales? Pay the price. If $20 to $35 a month to submit to the BEST TGP's makes it not worthwhile for you then that speaks volumes IMO.

Lace · 05-26-2005, 02:42 PM

I just had 2 recent movie galleries listed on RR and the traffic wasnt all I expected...

alan-l · 05-26-2005, 02:43 PM

we've bought a lot of submit passes and we don't regret, exception made of a couple.

But I can see the flaw here, and it's purely maths (equals money)

1- Most average submitters won't be able to get traffic for galleries
2- Most average submitters won't be able to pay for submission software+submit passes+content+server bills+.......
3- In this scenario, submissions will drastically go down, so TGP owners will need to fill spots with FHG, but 99.99% of FHG sucks ball for different reasons (lousy designers, oversaturation, whatever). Hence signups will reduce drastically as well.
4- The excuse is to "weed the bad seeds". Well, this is the biggest flaw. He who is a pro cheater has the money to purchase these passes. The regular guys are less prolly to cheat or scam. Or they would be really stupid if after the cheating and scamming they can't even afford 35 bucks.
5- As we all know, TGP traffic quality is worse everyday, surfers have everything for free if they know where to look.
5- To add to all that, galleries aren't guaranteed. In other words: you're purchasing the right to click a button. Nothing else.

The way I see it, program owners should be very concerned about this, and maybe even pay the submit passes to their best affiliates (I won't charge you about this idea

)

And a final thought: if TGP owners wants to go this way, they'll need to give 100% exposure to the listed galleries, not using the paying submitter galleries to rotate or skim traffic. Otherwise, you're very close to those "bad seed" you're supposed to fight with this. If I've my gallery listed, which I paid for, i want to see it for at least 24 hours in your site. And when I click on my thumb, with my content, supposed to promote something I planned for, I wanna see nothing but my gallery when clicking. Just my

Barefootsies · 05-26-2005, 02:44 PM

This industry's changing, and only the playas will be left. You are starting to see the industry moving in this direction. This isn't news. You need to stay ahead of the curve.

Theo · 05-26-2005, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

I remember a thread about Pay to Play in 2001. The guy who made the post almost got laughed off GFY. Almost funny how time flies. We haven't seen the end of the changes yet.

i made a thread about it years ago and i was told that free traffic from tgps will always be plenty

yeah right

alan-l · 05-26-2005, 02:45 PM

btw, we get listed at RR each and every day for free. And I wouldn't have any problem to pay those $35

uno · 05-26-2005, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nylz

If you don't get listed your galleries probably suck

I occasionally get rejected for "Not enough nudity." but 9/10 galleries of mine are listed there.

sixxxthsense · 05-26-2005, 02:46 PM

ooo I guess that means I'll have to chare RR's budy who's submitting his new program to my TGP!

hehe j/k I aint like that

Nicky · 05-26-2005, 02:47 PM

this is not negative.....atleast not for me 35 bucks thats like 1 sale a month.....

infecto · 05-26-2005, 02:47 PM

Speaking TGP wise if you have a problem getting listed on RR you suck. I can submit a gallery and same day get it approved ALWAYS.

chowda · 05-26-2005, 02:49 PM

takes guarentee money to make sales money

TheJimmy · 05-26-2005, 02:50 PM

oooo nooooo, this industry isn't gonna actually have to start to act like a real business now is it?

oooooooooooooooooo my

.

chadglni · 05-26-2005, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

we've bought a lot of submit passes and we don't regret, exception made of a couple.

But I can see the flaw here, and it's purely maths (equals money)

1- Most average submitters won't be able to get traffic for galleries
2- Most average submitters won't be able to pay for submission software+submit passes+content+server bills+.......
3- In this scenario, submissions will drastically go down, so TGP owners will need to fill spots with FHG, but 99.99% of FHG sucks ball for different reasons (lousy designers, oversaturation, whatever). Hence signups will reduce drastically as well.

You do realize that the people that KNOW how to make money on his traffic would get more of their galleries approved? RR going to paid submits is hardly a sign he will be loaded with FHG's in a month.

baddog · 05-26-2005, 02:56 PM

$35 seems fair . . . they are pretty good about accepting good galleries

05-26-2005, 12:46 PM	#1
xanthias Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 183	Richards Realm went paid submissions (35 bucks a month) wow, now i know submitters are in for some shit. Richards Realm just went paid submission today for 35 bucks a month. allows for 3 submits a day and listing is not guaranteed. Free submissions are still around, but only 1 submission per day and the daily limit was already reached. looks like you have to fork over the cash to be on richards-realm now. what a sad day for submitters... __________________ icq:313788227 email: xanthias_gmail_com

05-26-2005, 12:48 PM	#2
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Oh boo hoo. Looks like submitters will have to pay something if they want to make money. His site is not the first and will not be the last either. I personally find this to be a good thing. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

05-26-2005, 12:50 PM	#3
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05-26-2005, 12:51 PM	#5
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05-26-2005, 12:52 PM	#7
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05-26-2005, 12:56 PM	#9
xanthias Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 183	i'm not bitching, i'm sharing :D it's just a shame seeing all the big guys heading for the hills so quickly. i like my free traffic... __________________ icq:313788227 email: xanthias_gmail_com

05-26-2005, 01:11 PM	#11
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05-26-2005, 01:31 PM	#12
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05-26-2005, 02:10 PM	#22
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	So let me get this...you submit more than 1 fucking gallery per day and are bitching about paying $35/month to do so...gezzzz

05-26-2005, 02:11 PM	#23
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	Sad day indeed, I just pulled the plug on our TGP promotion, more profitable angles to spend time on now that you have to pay.... $35 RR, $90 World Sex / Al4A, $49 Pink World, $10 Free Milf, etc etc, ends up around $500 + server bills, Sure if you can get 15-30 sales outta this you will seem ok, You forget you have to pay the kid that makes the galleries and submits them as well each day, which now makes it unproffitable. Now with that said, if you own the program you are selling you are ok with some rebills, unfortunately this just killed every regular joe who submits for a hopeful $25 signup here and there... Now only the big boy sponsors are left, soon it will saturate TGP's with all the FHG look and TGP sales will drop to even sadder conversion ratios. Look at the top tgp's now, its all the same crap day in and day out... Those are just the paid listings thru 1-30, now with paid accounts...surfers are even more fucked with this move..... LOSE/LOSE situation. Thanks TGP's for making it rich off our content! Then fucking us on top of it lol.

05-26-2005, 02:11 PM	#24
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	$35 a MONTH? thats a little steep to not even have a guarenteed listing. i'd rather pay $50 for 1 yr of submitting freesites to 'gold status' linklists. __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

05-26-2005, 02:12 PM	#25
digi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,314	eh, Im not against paid submissions.. however to say its been a free ride isnt true. Content + hosting + design of gallery + the work of submitting it isnt free. Even when TGP's dont charge money they still get fresh content every day for their site. __________________

05-26-2005, 02:14 PM	#26
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	$35 is good and will weed out the newbs

05-26-2005, 02:16 PM	#27
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	bump where is the link for paid submitters once again

05-26-2005, 02:19 PM	#28
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	35 RR 90 al4a some submit passes ..... at the end you'll have to make 50 sales / month just to pay the passes and your host

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05-26-2005, 02:38 PM	#34
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	i think that makes MegaPussy.com TGP the highest traffic sending TGP left out there with free submits, (thats what my logs show for me) free partner account info is on their submit page if you are interested... megapussy.com

05-26-2005, 02:39 PM	#35
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05-26-2005, 02:41 PM	#36
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05-26-2005, 02:43 PM	#39
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	we've bought a lot of submit passes and we don't regret, exception made of a couple. But I can see the flaw here, and it's purely maths (equals money) 1- Most average submitters won't be able to get traffic for galleries 2- Most average submitters won't be able to pay for submission software+submit passes+content+server bills+....... 3- In this scenario, submissions will drastically go down, so TGP owners will need to fill spots with FHG, but 99.99% of FHG sucks ball for different reasons (lousy designers, oversaturation, whatever). Hence signups will reduce drastically as well. 4- The excuse is to "weed the bad seeds". Well, this is the biggest flaw. He who is a pro cheater has the money to purchase these passes. The regular guys are less prolly to cheat or scam. Or they would be really stupid if after the cheating and scamming they can't even afford 35 bucks. 5- As we all know, TGP traffic quality is worse everyday, surfers have everything for free if they know where to look. 5- To add to all that, galleries aren't guaranteed. In other words: you're purchasing the right to click a button. Nothing else. The way I see it, program owners should be very concerned about this, and maybe even pay the submit passes to their best affiliates (I won't charge you about this idea ) And a final thought: if TGP owners wants to go this way, they'll need to give 100% exposure to the listed galleries, not using the paying submitter galleries to rotate or skim traffic. Otherwise, you're very close to those "bad seed" you're supposed to fight with this. If I've my gallery listed, which I paid for, i want to see it for at least 24 hours in your site. And when I click on my thumb, with my content, supposed to promote something I planned for, I wanna see nothing but my gallery when clicking. Just my

05-26-2005, 02:44 PM	#40
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	This industry's changing, and only the playas will be left. You are starting to see the industry moving in this direction. This isn't news. You need to stay ahead of the curve. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

05-26-2005, 02:45 PM	#42
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	btw, we get listed at RR each and every day for free. And I wouldn't have any problem to pay those $35

05-26-2005, 02:46 PM	#44
sixxxthsense Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,421	ooo I guess that means I'll have to chare RR's budy who's submitting his new program to my TGP! hehe j/k I aint like that

05-26-2005, 02:47 PM	#45
Nicky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	this is not negative.....atleast not for me 35 bucks thats like 1 sale a month..... __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com