UK court bans online porn sales (May 24th) - GoFuckYourself.com

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 03:47 AM

Pornmongers in the UK can no longer send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online.

Sex shops in the UK cannot sell adult material except to people who visit their premises. The High Court ruled yesterday that such restrictions are legal because they help prevent pornography being bought by children.

Two UK companies brought the appeal after being fined by Trading Standards for selling restricted material by post. They argued that the ban was unfair because companies outside the UK would ignore it and damage British businesses.

But the judgement said the restrictions are lawful. The main reason for ensuring a face-to-face meeting between seller and buyer was to make sure the buyer was old enough.

Lord Justice Kay accepted that children under 18 might manage to subvert such restrictions but that did not justify removing them.

Two companies, Interfact Ltd, with a shop in Bexley, and Birmingham-based Pabo Ltd, fell foul of trading standards last year after offering age-restricted videos like Bikers? Gang Bang and Top Marks for Effort through their online catalogues

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05..._no_mailorder/

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 04:07 AM

WHAT? No commentary on the EVIL UK government?!

pornguy · 05-25-2005, 04:07 AM

Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.

Yeah, and he was responsible for prohibition too.

David! · 05-25-2005, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.

Now we just need rich and directfiesta so we can all sing an hymn to Lenin and a little kumbaya around the natural fire.
Here's a pic to help you out.

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMan

Now we just need rich and directfiesta so we can all sing an hymn to Lenin and a little kumbaya around the natural fire.
Here's a pic to help you out.

I'm not sure those two have ever criticized another government besides the US in this forum. Sorta like the Bush veto. Will it happen today?

Johny Traffic · 05-25-2005, 04:29 AM

This is a very old law. Its always been the law. There has been no change in the law.

Its always been illegal for UK companies to send R18 Videos and DVDs through the post. Nothing has changed.

Somebody tried to overturn the law, the judges wouldnt overturn the law. So it remains as it always was. DVD companies have to ship them from Europe and not the UK or sell them in sex shops. Exactly the same as they have always had to do

Johny Traffic · 05-25-2005, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries.

The Law was there before bush was

AttorneyGeneral Gonzales · 05-25-2005, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

The Law was there before bush was

I am the law!

Sarah_Jayne · 05-25-2005, 04:45 AM

for about the 15th time in various threads..it is enforcing an existing rule about selling PHYSICAL products...ie something you put in your dvd player or vcr.

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

for about the 15th time in various threads..it is enforcing an existing rule about selling PHYSICAL products...ie something you put in your dvd player or vcr.

Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?

Your thread title says "UK court bans online porn sales"... where did "online" come into it?

Johny Traffic · 05-25-2005, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?

Her point was not that it was Videos & DVD's her point was the is an existing law that has always been there. But someone made an appeal after they got found guilty of the law, they tried to overturn the ruling on the existing law. The judge wouldnt overturn the verdict and so enforcing an existing law thats always been there.

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Your thread title says "UK court bans online porn sales"... where did "online" come into it?

See the part above the author's name? It's called the title. If you read the article you will understand why.

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Her point was not that it was Videos & DVD's her point was the is an existing law that has always been there. But someone made an apeal after they got found guilty of the law, they tried to overturn the ruling on the existing law. The judge wouldnt overturn the verdict and so enforcing an existing law thats always been there.

Yes, I read the article and I also read Sarah's post on another board this morning.

Johny Traffic · 05-25-2005, 05:04 AM

The article is very misleading, as it says "Pornmongers in the UK can no longer send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online" It shoul in fact say "Pornmongers in the UK still cant send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online"

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

See the part above the author's name? It's called the title. If you read the article you will understand why.

Misleading title.

It wasn't banned... a ban was upheld.

David! · 05-25-2005, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Misleading title.

It wasn't banned... a ban was upheld.

Where is your outrage?
Oh, wait. I know, it has nothing to do with Evil GWB

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 05:19 AM

Besides, I thought the story about the porn surfing Norwegians who were awarded $40K sounded far more interesting:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04...nsation_claim/

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMan

Where is your outrage?
Oh, wait. I know, it has nothing to do with Evil GWB

Why should I be outraged?

David! · 05-25-2005, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Why should I be outraged?

Cuz if the US made it illegal to ship human waste through the postal services, you'd be crying like a virgin in heat, but if your mother country upholds a ban on shipping dvd's, then it is ok?????

a1ka1ine · 05-25-2005, 05:24 AM

damn.. for a moment there i thought this was a law they just made up!!! scary. thanks to reliable information peeps at gfy tho

Sarah_Jayne · 05-25-2005, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Right. Videos and DVDs. Who said anything different?

You are smarter than that..you knew exactly how misleading the article headline was ..as did they. I've written my fair share of text links too, so I understand.

Hinc · 05-25-2005, 05:26 AM

Thats the most ridiculous law I ever heard of....hmmm no wait, I think I know one thats worse.

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMan

Cuz if the US made it illegal to ship human waste through the postal services, you'd be crying like a virgin in heat, but if your mother country upholds a ban on shipping dvd's, then it is ok?????

When have I ever given a fuck about who bans sending porn DVD's through the mail? Find a post where I did. Like I could give a shit.

Besides, I don't remember hearing the English screaming about freedom all the time like you simpletons do.

So perhaps if you Americans shut your fat, ignorant, arrogant pieholes for a minute (and stopped invading other countries) the rest of the world wouldn't be so interested in what you mongrel fuckups did.

I know I wouldn't.

P.S. England is your mother country too.

David! · 05-25-2005, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

When have I ever given a fuck about who bans sending porn DVD's through the mail? Find a post where I did. Like I could give a shit.

Besides, I don't remember hearing the English screaming about freedom all the time like you simpletons do.

So perhaps if you Americans shut your fat, ignorant, arrogant pieholes for a minute (and stopped invading other countries) the rest of the world wouldn't be so interested in what you mongrel fuckups did.

I know I wouldn't.

P.S. England is your mother country too.

God saves the Queen

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMan

God saves the Queen

Personally, I can't stand the old bitch.

JamesK2 · 05-25-2005, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

When have I ever given a fuck about who bans sending porn DVD's through the mail? Find a post where I did. Like I could give a shit.

Besides, I don't remember hearing the English screaming about freedom all the time like you simpletons do.

So perhaps if you Americans shut your fat, ignorant, arrogant pieholes for a minute (and stopped invading other countries) the rest of the world wouldn't be so interested in what you mongrel fuckups did.

I know I wouldn't.

P.S. England is your mother country too.

LOL

Post of the year.

Cassie · 05-25-2005, 05:52 AM

and the world keeps changing.....

ukweb · 05-25-2005, 05:59 AM

People have gone to prison in the UK sending adult material through the post.

Tipsy · 05-25-2005, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Personally, I can't stand the old bitch.

I quite like the whole royal family. But notice I said like and not respect. I think they almost earn their money for entertainment value

It's like having highly paid state jesters that never fail to amuse.

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK

LOL

Post of the year.

The guy that got under his skin deserves AT LEAST half the credit!

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

You are smarter than that..you knew exactly how misleading the article headline was ..as did they. I've written my fair share of text links too, so I understand.

Yes, I did! You owe me MORE credit actually. Not less. ;-)

David! · 05-25-2005, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

The guy that got under his skin deserves AT LEAST half the credit!

Trying to argue with joe6nuts is like trying to convince your shadow that you have as much money as Bill Gates

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Misleading title.

It wasn't banned... a ban was upheld.

DOWN(ing) with the Fuckin' LIBERAL UK Press!

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

DOWN(ing) with the Fuckin' LIBERAL UK Press!

Colin, I want to do hard drugs with you.

Come to Amsterdam for New Years and do coke and mushrooms with Labret and me.

ADL Colin · 05-25-2005, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Colin, I want to do hard drugs with you.

Come to Amsterdam for New Years and do coke and mushrooms with Labret and me.

If I were still doing drugs I would love to, man. We'd have a great time.

I have a baby girl on the way. I have to pretend to be respectable now

Joe Citizen · 05-25-2005, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

If I were still doing drugs I would love to, man. We'd have a great time.

I have a baby girl on the way. I have to pretend to be respectable now

Damn, fatherhood. Congrats, I think.

Pretend all you like. Once a drug fiend, always a drug fiend!

Ah well, at least we can still spar on the boards.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-25-2005, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassie

and the world keeps changing.....

again - nothng changed

Fletch XXX · 05-25-2005, 06:59 AM

having a sale on 12clicks-like and joe citizen-like trolls

http://www.rentatroll.com

directfiesta · 05-25-2005, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

again - nothng changed

True. Still shipping in UK every week to my reliable customers...
Shipping is a killer tough

directfiesta · 05-25-2005, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

I'm not sure those two have ever criticized another government besides the US in this forum. Sorta like the Bush veto. Will it happen today?

LOL ... Could have started a new thread, with at least 10 items about the US Administration ...

Here is one :

Quote:

US SLAMMED OVER RIGHTS

The US 'war on terror' has had a drastic impact on human rights worldwide, Amnesty International has warned.

And the US is among the worst culprits at eroding basic rights.

"The USA as the unrivalled political, military and economic hyper-power sets the tone for governmental behaviour worldwide," Secretary General Irene Khan said in the foreword to Amnesty International's 2005 annual report.

"When the most powerful country in the world thumbs its nose at the rule of law and human rights, it grants a licence to others to commit abuse with impunity."

The organisation said last year's abuse pictures of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison was never fully probed and the detention of inmates without charge were good examples of America's attitude.

"The detention facility at Guantanamo Bay has become the gulag of our times," Ms Khan.

Hundreds of people are being held in Guantanamo and the US airbase at Bagram in Afghanistan - some for more than

three years - without charge and with no access to legal representation.

Ms Khan said America's actions had "made the security situation worse".

She accused the US of 'subcontracting torture' to get information from detainees.

"The US government has gone to great lengths to restrict the application of the Geneva Convention and to 're-define' torture," she said.

"Governments are trying to subcontract torture. Justice is not just being denied it is being diverted," she said.

"To argue that torture is warranted is to push us back to the Middle Ages."

Colombia, Sudan and Zimbabwe were also singled out for criticism.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...355570,00.html

Fell free to copy/paste for a new thread ...

FunForOne,12shits,TheTruthHurts,Pussyman,Bret and the gand will be more than happy to reply :

" Why do you hate AmeriKa"....

Kevsh · 05-25-2005, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

WHAT? No commentary on the EVIL UK government?!

I think it's a good idea, personally. Anything reasonable that helps prevent porn getting into the hands of minors is a good step... and this certainly sounds like a reasonable step.

Of course, it does kind of open the flood gates doesn't it? Until the adult industry (or anyone else for that matter) can come up with a way to better ensure they are not selling their content to minors, expect to see more of this.

xxxdesign-net · 05-25-2005, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

having a sale on 12clicks-like and joe citizen-like trolls

http://www.rentatroll.com

How much for a troll that would accuse Lensman of shaving with fake screencaps?

MrChips · 05-25-2005, 10:04 AM

So - is it legal for a UK website, run by a uk business, hosted in the UK, to sell memberships to a members area where the visitor found the site online.

Lets say an english company, registered in england, hosted in london - had a pay porn site (with the same content type that is banned by the current law as mentioned - re posting etc), where customers joined ONLINE with their credit card.

Is that english company breaking english law?

Sarah_Jayne · 05-25-2005, 10:11 AM

it isn't banned content....it is the PHYSICAL item. It is hard to explain the different comissions that govern different sides of things. I sort of understand your point but (for now) this particular ruling is about physical goods.

Welcome to the world of confusion that is being a smut merchant in the UK. Though anyone that hosts hardcore porn in the UK needs to be shot anyway.

MrChips · 05-25-2005, 10:19 AM

Well - I host in the US, but only softcore really.

Is it legal for me as a UK company to earn commission from nastydollars for example - by driving traffic to their sites through SEO with pages containing banners etc

05-25-2005, 03:47 AM	#1
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	UK court bans online porn sales (May 24th) Pornmongers in the UK can no longer send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online. Sex shops in the UK cannot sell adult material except to people who visit their premises. The High Court ruled yesterday that such restrictions are legal because they help prevent pornography being bought by children. Two UK companies brought the appeal after being fined by Trading Standards for selling restricted material by post. They argued that the ban was unfair because companies outside the UK would ignore it and damage British businesses. But the judgement said the restrictions are lawful. The main reason for ensuring a face-to-face meeting between seller and buyer was to make sure the buyer was old enough. Lord Justice Kay accepted that children under 18 might manage to subvert such restrictions but that did not justify removing them. Two companies, Interfact Ltd, with a shop in Bexley, and Birmingham-based Pabo Ltd, fell foul of trading standards last year after offering age-restricted videos like Bikers? Gang Bang and Top Marks for Effort through their online catalogues http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05..._no_mailorder/ __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

05-25-2005, 04:07 AM	#2
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	WHAT? No commentary on the EVIL UK government?! __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

05-25-2005, 04:07 AM	#3
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Sounds like Bush is pushing his agnda into other countries. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

05-25-2005, 04:29 AM	#7
Johny Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,461	This is a very old law. Its always been the law. There has been no change in the law. Its always been illegal for UK companies to send R18 Videos and DVDs through the post. Nothing has changed. Somebody tried to overturn the law, the judges wouldnt overturn the law. So it remains as it always was. DVD companies have to ship them from Europe and not the UK or sell them in sex shops. Exactly the same as they have always had to do __________________ hosted flv's, hosted galleries, morphing rss feeds, free content, free sites, hosted blog

05-25-2005, 05:04 AM	#16
Johny Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,461	The article is very misleading, as it says "Pornmongers in the UK can no longer send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online" It shoul in fact say "Pornmongers in the UK still cant send videos or DVDs through the post or sell them online" __________________ hosted flv's, hosted galleries, morphing rss feeds, free content, free sites, hosted blog

05-25-2005, 04:45 AM	#10
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	for about the 15th time in various threads..it is enforcing an existing rule about selling PHYSICAL products...ie something you put in your dvd player or vcr.

05-25-2005, 05:19 AM	#19
Joe Citizen Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,552	Besides, I thought the story about the porn surfing Norwegians who were awarded $40K sounded far more interesting: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04...nsation_claim/

05-25-2005, 05:24 AM	#22
a1ka1ine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,387	damn.. for a moment there i thought this was a law they just made up!!! scary. thanks to reliable information peeps at gfy tho

05-25-2005, 05:26 AM	#24
Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	Thats the most ridiculous law I ever heard of....hmmm no wait, I think I know one thats worse. __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

05-25-2005, 05:52 AM	#29
Cassie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 3,139	and the world keeps changing..... __________________ ICQ: 309756847 ]

05-25-2005, 05:59 AM	#30
ukweb Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 34	People have gone to prison in the UK sending adult material through the post. __________________ Got Uniform Traffic Make Money Now CCbill Affiliate Program

05-25-2005, 06:59 AM	#40
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	having a sale on 12clicks-like and joe citizen-like trolls http://www.rentatroll.com __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

05-25-2005, 10:04 AM	#45
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Seriously So - is it legal for a UK website, run by a uk business, hosted in the UK, to sell memberships to a members area where the visitor found the site online. Lets say an english company, registered in england, hosted in london - had a pay porn site (with the same content type that is banned by the current law as mentioned - re posting etc), where customers joined ONLINE with their credit card. Is that english company breaking english law?

05-25-2005, 10:11 AM	#46
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	it isn't banned content....it is the PHYSICAL item. It is hard to explain the different comissions that govern different sides of things. I sort of understand your point but (for now) this particular ruling is about physical goods. Welcome to the world of confusion that is being a smut merchant in the UK. Though anyone that hosts hardcore porn in the UK needs to be shot anyway.

05-25-2005, 10:19 AM	#47
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Ok Well - I host in the US, but only softcore really. Is it legal for me as a UK company to earn commission from nastydollars for example - by driving traffic to their sites through SEO with pages containing banners etc