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Old 05-19-2005, 03:00 PM   #1
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Paris Hilton and 2257

Can someone reach her for ID and release ?
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Hmmm. thats not going to happen. That little bitch.
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Can someone reach her for ID and release ?

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I have copies i have seen when i did a compliance check
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i had her number but unfortunately she changed it
so did Lindsey Lohan , Victoria Gotti, Pauly Shore and Fergie..

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we have full 2257 and we serve all the creative
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scan them or i report you to bears who love 2257 twinks
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WE are to believe you have paris hiltons signed model release and id. lol
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you have a copy of paris hilton's license ??? find it hard to believe she gave that to you although the bitch is pretty stupid..
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you have a copy of paris hilton's license ??? find it hard to believe she gave that to you although the bitch is pretty stupid..
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I call bullshit. So you have a full, signed release, a 2257 decloration and two copies, one digital and one hard or photo copy of her goverment issued ID? You are also compliant with the new regs?

Come on man.

That origanal video was sold to Marvad wasnt it? Where does XPays come in to play here and how did you procure her full 2257 info?

Also, when these new regs go into place, are you going to forward a copy of her id and release to everyone that is pushing her shit for you? This should be interesting.
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I call bullshit. So you have a full, signed release, a 2257 decloration and two copies, one digital and one hard or photo copy of her goverment issued ID? You are also compliant with the new regs?

Come on man.
hmmmm insteresting.... i
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I call bullshit. So you have a full, signed release, a 2257 decloration and two copies, one digital and one hard or photo copy of her goverment issued ID? You are also compliant with the new regs?

Come on man.

That origanal video was sold to Marvad wasnt it? Where does XPays come in to play here and how did you procure her full 2257 info?

Also, when these new regs go into place, are you going to forward a copy of her id and release to everyone that is pushing her shit for you? This should be interesting.

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bumping the bump...I wouldn't mind hearing the answer as well....
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wegcash must not believe they do ,because they threatned to can anyone promoting the paris hilton tape.. and if xpays has full 2257 then why should she be any different than any other porn actress..

I don't doubt xpays has legal rights to the video, nor do i doubt they haven't ran this through a lawyer first , but it is a curious quandry.

I mentioned before that the 2257 law would be flawed if they allowed consent/i.d. to be given AFTER a film was produced and since we know the video wasn't planned , i dont know how they could have it "before" it was produced
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I mentioned before that the 2257 law would be flawed if they allowed consent/i.d. to be given AFTER a film was produced and since we know the video wasn't planned , i dont know how they could have it "before" it was produced
Once again, you are correct. Its a certain flaw and only furthers the doubt surrounding Xpays actual ability to hold legal 2257 info on Paris and her tape.

What is really interesting is that Xpays went way out of their way to cast doubt on another programs celeb site. Nearly, if not crossing the libel, yet there seems to be real concerns and doubt about Xpays legal standing on this 2257 issue on this Hilton mess.

Maybe they (Xpays) will clear it up for us in this thread?
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Ya can trust that.
I know ya noobs wanna try and find an angle but ya aint got one.

Ya gonna hassle Evan to post his stats next?
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If Evan says he has it, he has it.

Ya can trust that.
I know ya noobs wanna try and find an angle but ya aint got one.

Ya gonna hassle Evan to post his stats next?
If he has it he will clear it up and answer the questions posed. And yes, I want to see his stats also. haha

Also, if I was such a "noob" I would have no idea on the correct questions one should ask now would I?
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Why is Alien sucking Evan's ass in every thread ?
Cuz Evan plays an Honest game. It took me a while to figure out I will admit that. I used to go rounds with Evan big time. He was not a night in Shinning armor all the time, some things I didnt like.

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I mentioned before that the 2257 law would be flawed if they allowed consent/i.d. to be given AFTER a film was produced and since we know the video wasn't planned , i dont know how they could have it "before" it was produced


before or after is irrelivant, if he doesn't have a copy of her legal id at all.

pretty fair question to ask.
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I got $20k that says you dont

I'll match that.

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looks like no answers will be given on this one.
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looks like no answers will be given on this one.

So it appears Xpays brought attention to XXXCash in efforts to deflict its own problems. Wow.... shady for sure.
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LOL XPays 2257 is probably sitting next to this amazing exclusive new paris content theyre "holding onto".
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I doubt you'd need to worry about the 2257 stuff in her case...

Her age isn't in any way questionable.. Unless someone is just after your ass and wants to use the 2257 deal as ammo.. which will probably happen now and then..
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I doubt you'd need to worry about the 2257 stuff in her case...

Her age isn't in any way questionable.. Unless someone is just after your ass and wants to use the 2257 deal as ammo.. which will probably happen now and then..

It would be nice if worked that way...
But here is a question, When was the video shot and how old was she???
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Her mom can tell you also!

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I doubt you'd need to worry about the 2257 stuff in her case...

Her age isn't in any way questionable.. Unless someone is just after your ass and wants to use the 2257 deal as ammo.. which will probably happen now and then..

Gotgauge is correct and just to add to that... Its not her age that is in question, its if they have the proper documents. The new 2257 is as much about having all the documents and stored in the correct way as much as it is about the models age.
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Gotgauge is correct and just to add to that... Its not her age that is in question, its if they have the proper documents. The new 2257 is as much about having all the documents and stored in the correct way as much as it is about the models age.
ok - so you think Paris cashes checks but would not sign a release and provide necessary doc's prior to issuance?

i will scan a relative article where her own lawyer clearly states she is participating in all of this fun - it's from the new york times weekend edition last week btw. also- did you see in her tmobile notes "pick up check from rick".

let's not be naive people.

also- if you search the cali courts for salomon vs. * - you will see some big name adult affil networks that got racked up already. rick just never smeared them publicly.
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may 2, 2005 new york times - article is "paris inc"

find it yourself. i am not going to waste my time with you on this.
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So it appears Xpays brought attention to XXXCash in efforts to deflict its own problems. Wow.... shady for sure.
no, you are shady or naive.

what do you see on xxxcash's landing now btw? natalie portman?

also do some quick searching in the engines and tell me if you see any xxxcash affiliates infringing on our client's intellectual property.
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All that being said you still have not answered the questions posed.

Don't waste time on this, no skin off my ass, but seeing ithat paris seems to be your one and only marketing ploy you might want to spend a bit more time answering your affiliates concerns rather then raising concerns of other programs.

BTW, some text message on Paris's t-mobile is HARDLY proof of anything. If that is your defense and proof of a business relationship between you and Hiton, then wow....... WOW.

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ok - so you think Paris cashes checks but would not sign a release and provide necessary doc's prior to issuance?[/
Yes, I tend to cash checks made out to me also, regardless of the source. ;) Show me someone that doesnt.

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i will scan a relative article where her own lawyer clearly states she is participating in all of this fun - it's from the new york times weekend edition last week btw. also- did you see in her tmobile notes "pick up check from rick".
Wow... with that kind of documentation you are covered for sure.

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Youre deflecting again. ;)

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ok, think whatever you want. you are grasping at straws. peas out!
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ok, think whatever you want. you are grasping at straws. peas out!

Does not matter what I think. The people that is does matter to will find out one way or another.

Still, a very worthwhile question to pose and a question that you are clearly afraid or, have good reason not to answer. The burden of proof does not fall on my questions, but on your answers. I think your lack of an answer is answer enough.

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So it appears Xpays brought attention to XXXCash in efforts to deflict its own problems. Wow.... shady for sure.
OH man...

LOL.

Evan says he has it, he has it.
He has rights to publicity also.

He has said so before, he has the contacts to make it all happen.
HUGE Difference.

There shouldnt be any doubts about his Paris Product.
He has answered this shit plenty of times.
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Old 05-20-2005, 05:48 PM   #46
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Does not matter what I think. The people that is does matter to will find out one way or another.

Still, a very worthwhile question to pose and a question that you are clearly afraid or, have good reason not to answer. The burden of proof does not fall on my questions, but on your answers. I think your lack of an answer is answer enough.

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when we first launched - of course people were skeptical. now it is a little late in the game to be so outright naive.
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Old 05-20-2005, 05:54 PM   #47
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when we first launched - of course people were skeptical. now it is a little late in the game to be so outright naive.
Asking a legitimate question(s) does not make one "naive". Like you guys would be the first to run with a site without a release and proper docs.

Please


Either way, do what you do.
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Asking a legitimate question(s) does not make one "naive". Like you guys would be the first to run with a site without a release and proper docs.

Please


Either way, do what you do.
i gave you legit answers.
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Old 05-20-2005, 05:57 PM   #49
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Can someone reach her for ID and release ?

i fucked her

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Old 05-20-2005, 07:07 PM   #50
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I doubt you'd need to worry about the 2257 stuff in her case...

Her age isn't in any way questionable.. Unless someone is just after your ass and wants to use the 2257 deal as ammo.. which will probably happen now and then..

thats funny, go tell an attorny that I am sure they will get a good laugh or better yet tell the judge

there are no exceptions because it seems obvious that she is of age. It's all about record keeping. You can get in trouble for not having 2257 on a 60 year old women, does not matter at all.
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