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Old 05-07-2005, 05:06 PM   #1
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Why do so many black people....

Why do the majority of black people have to act like they were all raised in the fucking ghetto smack dab in the middle of Compton?

I actually asked a few black people this question a few minutes ago. They told me that they were raised in Compton and moved here to get away from it all.

My reply as I walked away?

"There is a saying......You can take the blacks out of the ghetto but you can never take the ghetto out of the blacks. If you moved here to get away from it, then perhaps you should have checked that shit at the door when you arrived."


I find it a real shame that the media, MTV,...whoever....Has helped build such a stereotype of black people to the point where people think it's cool to act like that.

There?s nothing wrong with being black?But just because your skin is dark does not mean that you have to act like a gangbanger.


This thread is likely to cause a bunch of idiots to spark a racist discussion and bash me so I'm leaving now. Going to Costco to buy rope in bulk quantities.

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Old 05-07-2005, 05:18 PM   #2
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There?s nothing wrong with being black?But just because your skin is dark does not mean that you have to act like a gangbanger.
I once worked with this guy who was a middle upper class black guy, his parents were both educated and working professionals (lawyer & doctor), he was well educated (university degree), and he spoke perfect english.

He would always speak perfect english unless suddenly he happened to be around another black person, then he would immediately begin speaking 100% ebonics. As soon as the other black person was gone, he would immediately begin speaking perfect english again. It was an interesting phenomenon to witness.
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:21 PM   #3
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i was born in marine city, cali
city, cali
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:35 PM   #9
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I find it a real shame that the media, MTV,...whoever....Has helped build such a stereotype of black people to the point where people think it's cool to act like that.
I also find it a shame that this carries over into all races.


This thread reminds me of a time I was watching Def Comedy Jam and I heard something that actually disturbed me.

The comedian was your typical.."this is how a black guy *fill in the blank* vs how a white guy *fill in the black* type comedian.

Anyway his comparison for the day was a white kid at graduation walking across the stage solemnly getting their diploma..sad because they knew they had 4 more years of school ahead of them...black kid at graduation, is up on the stage dancing across it as he got his diploma because he knew he was through with that school shit.
The audience was roaring with laughter.

They actually found it funny that the white kid was sad because he was going to get a college education vs the black kid who was happy he wasn't.
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I once worked with this guy who was a middle upper class black guy, his parents were both educated and working professionals (lawyer & doctor), he was well educated (university degree), and he spoke perfect english.

He would always speak perfect english unless suddenly he happened to be around another black person, then he would immediately begin speaking 100% ebonics. As soon as the other black person was gone, he would immediately begin speaking perfect english again. It was an interesting phenomenon to witness.
I've noticed this as well. I also know a few black people that speak nothing but perfect english, go to hardcore shows with me and never speak a word of slang.

No matter what, a person is always their surroundings. If they hang out with enough individuals speaking proper, they will too. If they speak to people who speak with heavy slang via phone, face to face, etc... The speech patterns will be harder to lose.

On the flipside, I've also noticed a lot of educated white people who speak perfect english, yet once they are out drinking or in a more chaotic environment, they let loose with the expletives as if the word "fuck" had replaces the word "the".
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I have a guy friend here that's black and we both laugh our asses off at the wigger wannabes that come up to him all "Yo brutha" and all that shit. He was raised in the suburbs in Ohio not the hood
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No matter what, a person is always their surroundings. If they hang out with enough individuals speaking proper, they will too. If they speak to people who speak with heavy slang via phone, face to face, etc... The speech patterns will be harder to lose.
My Texas twang comes back or is more prevalent when on the phone with family back in Texas or when I meet a fellow Texan while out...seriously.
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dude take it easy on them

they used to be slaves and shit 100's of years ago
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:44 PM   #14
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this whole black and white thing is only in the US.

another thing: I listened to this rap album dated outta 98'. One track (was a gto boys album) wllie d starts syaing: "We aint against white ppl, were against white ppl who are against us!!"
WTF!
That shit is fucking outdated to say, even in the US in '98.
Im fucking white and i think its discriminating to say only white ppl who are against them.... why dont they just say 'people'? I bet there are also particular black ppl who dont like em.
So thats an album i never listen to again.
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My Texas twang comes back or is more prevalent when on the phone with family back in Texas or when I meet a fellow Texan while out...seriously.
Exactly. The arguement is valid on both sides of the coin...Black and White.
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One of my good friends is black, and he is educated, an electrical engineer as am I. Never speaks like he's from the "ghetto" and is one of the most humble and coolest guys I know. Fuck anyone who stereotypes, including those stupid "cash money" black guys who perpetuate and encourage the stereotype of their people. Idiots.
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The majority of black people don't speak that way, just the ones that you have either watched on television or had encoutners with, aybe you should change your surroundings or the class of people that you hang around.



Also:
There?s nothing wrong with being black?But just because your skin is dark does not mean that you have to act like a gangbanger.

You're right, just because my skin is dark I don't have to talk like a gangbanger, nor do I. None of my friends that I have now speak that way either and I was raised in the "black side" of town.

Also just because someone is Italian or Asian doesn't mean that they have to act like a mobster or a drug lord.
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this whole black and white thing is only in the US.

another thing: I listened to this rap album dated outta 98'. One track (was a gto boys album) wllie d starts syaing: "We aint against white ppl, were against white ppl who are against us!!"
WTF!
That shit is fucking outdated to say, even in the US in '98.
Im fucking white and i think its discriminating to say only white ppl who are against them.... why dont they just say 'people'? I bet there are also particular black ppl who dont like em.
So thats an album i never listen to again.

nah it might not be in the netherlands but it is lots of places
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A black man who is educated and speaks proper english changes to slang around uneducated blacks to avoid the ridicule they would recieve from their peers. Its "cool" to be gangster. Its acting like a white man to be educated.
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They have there own culture. The speak different, they live different, they have different morals. Whites relax in the back yard, blacks hang out in the front yard(chairs and all!). Black folks are all showmen. To them there "profile" is everything! That is where the old saying came from (Driving a cadillac, and living in a shack). I live in a black neighborhood, and as a rule the above is true. They spend nothing on there homes upkeep, yet buy extremely expensive cars. I also notice that the parents spend little, or no time whith there kids. Black parents also will use extreme foul language in front of there small kids, and grandchildren. They also have no consideration of other folks musical likes, and dislikes. They will sit at the red light playing the most filthy rap extremely load with whites sitting there looking at them like scum. They have no shame. Call it racist or what you like, but its a fact !
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A black man who is educated and speaks proper english changes to slang around uneducated blacks to avoid the ridicule they would recieve from their peers. Its "cool" to be gangster. Its acting like a white man to be educated.

It's being able to turn it off and on like a switch. If you're on the corner talking with a bunch of people who know nothing but ebonics then how else would you communicate with them?

It's the exact same thing that the majority of other people do while they are at work, they talk the talk but when they get home all that crap is left at the door.

I go to school with a shit load of white kids and when they get together all I hear is "fuck, man, shit, jew, hahahaha, pussy" and any other curse word you can imagine. I'm pretty sure they even call themselves "n.iggas" when black people aren't around.
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They have there own culture. The speak different, they live different, they have different morals. Whites relax in the back yard, blacks hang out in the front yard(chairs and all!). Black folks are all showmen. To them there "profile" is everything! That is where the old saying came from (Driving a cadillac, and living in a shack). I live in a black neighborhood, and as a rule the above is true. They spend nothing on there homes upkeep, yet buy extremely expensive cars. I also notice that the parents spend little, or no time whith there kids. Black parents also will use extreme foul language in front of there small kids, and grandchildren. They also have no consideration of other folks musical likes, and dislikes. They will sit at the red light playing the most filthy rap extremely load with whites sitting there looking at them like scum. They have no shame. Call it racist or what you like, but its a fact !
You would know that all blacks do this because you stay in the ghetto? It's not a fact, it is your ignorance or just the fact that you live in the hood.
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They have there own culture. The speak different, they live different, they have different morals. Whites relax in the back yard, blacks hang out in the front yard(chairs and all!). Black folks are all showmen. To them there "profile" is everything! That is where the old saying came from (Driving a cadillac, and living in a shack). I live in a black neighborhood, and as a rule the above is true. They spend nothing on there homes upkeep, yet buy extremely expensive cars. I also notice that the parents spend little, or no time whith there kids. Black parents also will use extreme foul language in front of there small kids, and grandchildren. They also have no consideration of other folks musical likes, and dislikes. They will sit at the red light playing the most filthy rap extremely load with whites sitting there looking at them like scum. They have no shame. Call it racist or what you like, but its a fact !
lol, all stereotypes. That every black person acts the same and not every white person acts the same. No wonder you live in the ghetto, you cant understand simplest of things
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You would know that all blacks do this because you stay in the ghetto? It's not a fact, it is your ignorance or just the fact that you live in the hood.
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They have there own culture. The speak different, they live different, they have different morals. Whites relax in the back yard, blacks hang out in the front yard(chairs and all!). Black folks are all showmen. To them there "profile" is everything! That is where the old saying came from (Driving a cadillac, and living in a shack). I live in a black neighborhood, and as a rule the above is true. They spend nothing on there homes upkeep, yet buy extremely expensive cars. I also notice that the parents spend little, or no time whith there kids. Black parents also will use extreme foul language in front of there small kids, and grandchildren. They also have no consideration of other folks musical likes, and dislikes. They will sit at the red light playing the most filthy rap extremely load with whites sitting there looking at them like scum. They have no shame. Call it racist or what you like, but its a fact !
I love the stereotypes in this thread.

First of all, I can only talk about what I, personally, do or don't do.

I pretty much speak to black and white people all the same. However, if I'm speaking to a black person that I know well...like my boyfriend or a very close friend for instance...I will use popular urban slang. I might say "What's good?" instead of a "Hey, what's up?" Why wouldn't I say "what's good?" to a white person that I don't know in a general conversation? It's mainly because I want the conversation to flow. I don't want to have to pause and explain what I'm saying/asking. I want to speak in a general dialect that I'm sure they and I will both understand without the need for pause or explanation.

We all got off on the speech thing, but I'm not even 100% sure what AaronM even meant by:

"Why do the majority of black people have to act like they were all raised in the fucking ghetto smack dab in the middle of Compton?"

He may have been speaking about some other behavior and not even referring to speech patterns, so maybe we need a little more clarification before jumping all over his topic.
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I once worked with this guy who was a middle upper class black guy, his parents were both educated and working professionals (lawyer & doctor), he was well educated (university degree), and he spoke perfect english.

He would always speak perfect english unless suddenly he happened to be around another black person, then he would immediately begin speaking 100% ebonics. As soon as the other black person was gone, he would immediately begin speaking perfect english again. It was an interesting phenomenon to witness.
I know exactly what you mean. The same way I am. I was born and raised in Nigeria, came out to the U.S when i was in my teens. I learned good english first, then i started to mess with the slang. There is nothing wrong with slang, just like everything in life, you have to know when it is necessary and when it is not.
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please go back to school you fuckin redneck
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Why do white people move out of a neighborhood when blacks move in? This always amazes me. The so called "none racists" wouldn't be caught dead living in a black neighborhood. I believe its called bigotry.
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first & foremost let me say this: i don't like what hip-hop has done to black culture. the attitudes & behaviors it supports perpetuate the ills of black culture in america & also perpetuate stereotypes that are seen & accepted around the world. hip-hop is POWERFUL - probably one of the most powerful forms of muscial expression the world has EVER seen. it has permeated all walks of life & is inescapable.... which is y it is so sad that it used in such a wreckless manner.

that being said, lemme address the original statement:
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Why do the majority of black people have to act like they were all raised in the fucking ghetto smack dab in the middle of Compton?
"majority of black people" is misused in this statement without saying "that i know or come in contact with". i don't behave like this and the majority of black people I KNOW don't act like this so, i can't relate.


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"There is a saying......You can take the blacks out of the ghetto but you can never take the ghetto out of the blacks. If you moved here to get away from it, then perhaps you should have checked that shit at the door when you arrived."
black people say this a lot too... but its in a joking manner. most black people who were educated enough to actually get themselves together & get out of the ghetto don't behave like that around people who are also educated. its a matter of adapting to your environment. you go over to the neighborhood speaking "proper english", its likely you will get your ass whooped or robbed because that's just how it is, kid. if you speak in a manner where those who would rob you or kick your ass feel like you are not a stranger to "the hood" that is MUCH less likely to happen. those people who you are referring to may not be wise enough to know that "there is a time & a place".... another quote black people use often :winkwink"


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I find it a real shame that the media, MTV,...whoever....Has helped build such a stereotype of black people to the point where people think it's cool to act like that. There?s nothing wrong with being black?But just because your skin is dark does not mean that you have to act like a gangbanger.
people who run the media aren't too concerned about the effect they have on who's watching tv, they are concerned about profits. if its hot right now, they will feed on it & if that means acting "ghetto" because that's the current trend, they will do it. plug in a different type of music & the principle is the same, MTV & the rest are pressed about $$$ not about how those who are NOT buying feel.

oh, and i know there is nothing wrong with being black, it quite actually is BETTER to have dark skin... especially with the eroding ozone layer, etc. did you know that people with dark skin tones rarely (if ever?) get skin cancer? ah, the benefits of melenin that are never addressed by the media


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This thread is likely to cause a bunch of idiots to spark a racist discussion and bash me so I'm leaving now.
hey, i don't wanna bash ya... like i said, some of the shit that bothers you in some way bothers me. just realize that if everyone acted the same, life would be pretty fucking boring & there will always be something that bothers us older folks about the current youth culture. ask the baby boomers who were irritated by heavy metal or rock... or whatever. "get dat dirt off ya shoulders!" - Jay-Z


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Old 05-07-2005, 08:56 PM   #46
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What has a black man ever invented? Not an atomic bomb. Not the fucking wheel.
In fact the black man has never invented nothing.
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What has a black man ever invented? Not an atomic bomb. Not the fucking wheel.
In fact the black man has never invented nothing.
crack, gangs, 20" rims, spinners, rap music, drive by shootings, etc. c'mon man give them the credit they deserve.
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What has a black man ever invented? Not an atomic bomb. Not the fucking wheel. In fact the black man has never invented nothing.

ok, its quite obvious your TOTALLY uneducated.... well, most racists are ignorant so your replies will be ignored from this point on. racists LOVE the internet because they can speak their words behind a keyboard without the shame of having to show their faces.... same as when the KKK wore their hoods. deep inside they all know its wrong to denegrate, oppress & kill another human being for no other reason than the color of their skin & the fear of their possible equality or superiority. i pity racists.... they suffer mentally on sooooo many levels. its really sad.



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That is just a damn shame. I have been seeing that image since high school in history class tapes. Usually Black history month tapes.
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