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sickkittens · 05-20-2005, 10:23 AM

Is there an explanation why some sites/pages can get 1st page top listings for certain keywords/phrases in Yahoo! and those sites/pages can;t be found anywhere in Google for the same keywords/phrases?

JD · 05-20-2005, 10:24 AM

because their algos are different

vas · 05-20-2005, 10:25 AM

google and yahoo use different algo's in calculating site position perhaps?

edit: sperminator beat me to it ;)

Thrawn$ · 05-20-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

because their algos are different

Hooooora

Master Yoda · 05-20-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

Is there an explanation why some sites/pages can get 1st page top listings for certain keywords/phrases in Yahoo! and those sites/pages can;t be found anywhere in Google for the same keywords/phrases?

2 different engines are they, for different algos they will use.....

sickkittens · 05-20-2005, 10:26 AM

But to have a top listing for a popular keyword on 1 and nowhere to be found on the other is normal?

sickkittens · 05-20-2005, 10:27 AM

Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

Master Yoda · 05-20-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

But to have a top listing for a popular keyword on 1 and nowhere to be found on the other is normal?

Yes Heh, normal this is...

JD · 05-20-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Master Yoda

2 different engines are they, for different algos they will use.....

you've got to be fucking kidding me..........Star Wars fake nicks!? go away.....I pray your stupidity will not spread beyond the walls of this thread

Master Yoda · 05-20-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

http://www.mcdar.net/KeywordTool/keywordtool.asp

Use this u may....

JD · 05-20-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

type the URL in the search box

BigRod · 05-20-2005, 10:29 AM

Its actually very normal because some optimizing techniques for one will actually hurt the other...

sumphatpimp · 05-20-2005, 10:29 AM

their was a thread on here a couple of days ago about that.
they said its the number of shares of stock you own from google or yahoo.
I believe him.

BigRod · 05-20-2005, 10:30 AM

Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

Master Yoda · 05-20-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

you've got to be fucking kidding me..........Star Wars fake nicks!? go away.....I pray your stupidity will not spread beyond the walls of this thread

Idiot r u....

WiredGuy · 05-20-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

Do a search on the SE for your domain name.
WG

radical · 05-20-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRod

Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

That's not necessarily true, I've had sites less than a week old rank high for certain keywords in Google. There is a number of factors which apply to a domain on whether or not the sandbox effect applies too it! One for instance is getting far too many links in a very short space of time can apply the sandbox effect to your site from Google.

fuzzypeach · 05-20-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

Yeah, just search google for index reports... Just type in your URL

It'll show you what pages each of the search engines have indexed.

Corleone · 05-20-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

search for site:mydomain.com

bdld · 05-20-2005, 12:02 PM

happens all the time. it really shouldn't be that way though.

V_RocKs · 05-20-2005, 02:26 PM

Sandbox is for pussies.. just keep making shit. Google won't sandbox you for ever... So make your shit and it goes like this,

Google grabs it on day 2 or 3... You are thinking about wiping the ass with 100 dollar bills.
MSN grabs it on end of week one or starting week 2. You want to gold plate the bills before wiping your ass now.
Google drops your ass on week 3. You think the world has just ended.
Yahoo picks it up on week 5. A new hope?
MSN is doing 1st or 2nd result on month 2.
Yahoo is doing top 5 for month 2.
Google puts you on page 2 for month 3
MSN puts you on result 3 - 7 for month 3
Yahoo has you at 4 to 8 for month 3
Google puts you on page 1 for month 4
Yahoo has you also on page 1 for month 4
MSN has you on page 2 for month 4...

Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

baddog · 05-20-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRod

Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

do you make this stuff up as you go along?

BlueWire · 05-20-2005, 04:33 PM

different formula

Sosa · 05-20-2005, 04:35 PM

yep, just gotta keep building pages and diff types of pages. Some will hit good and some won't. If google aignt doing it, i'm sure either msn or yahoo is.

thaifan99 · 05-20-2005, 04:37 PM

My cats love their sandbox.

fireorange · 05-20-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRod

Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

WTF?

radical · 05-20-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Sandbox is for pussies.. just keep making shit. Google won't sandbox you for ever... So make your shit and it goes like this,

Google grabs it on day 2 or 3... You are thinking about wiping the ass with 100 dollar bills.
MSN grabs it on end of week one or starting week 2. You want to gold plate the bills before wiping your ass now.
Google drops your ass on week 3. You think the world has just ended.
Yahoo picks it up on week 5. A new hope?
MSN is doing 1st or 2nd result on month 2.
Yahoo is doing top 5 for month 2.
Google puts you on page 2 for month 3
MSN puts you on result 3 - 7 for month 3
Yahoo has you at 4 to 8 for month 3
Google puts you on page 1 for month 4
Yahoo has you also on page 1 for month 4
MSN has you on page 2 for month 4...

Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

Well said

Build Build Build Test Test Test Repeat Repeat Repeat

Rorschach · 05-20-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

word up... spoken like someone who has actually been in the trenches rather than just talking about it

05-20-2005, 10:23 AM	#1
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05-20-2005, 10:29 AM	#12
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05-20-2005, 10:24 AM	#2
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	because their algos are different

05-20-2005, 10:29 AM	#13
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	their was a thread on here a couple of days ago about that. they said its the number of shares of stock you own from google or yahoo. I believe him.

05-20-2005, 10:30 AM	#14
BigRod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 3,685	Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results... __________________ Rod Macdonald Mainstream Ad Agency Owner ICQ: 607306

05-20-2005, 12:02 PM	#20
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	happens all the time. it really shouldn't be that way though.

05-20-2005, 02:26 PM	#21
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Sandbox is for pussies.. just keep making shit. Google won't sandbox you for ever... So make your shit and it goes like this, Google grabs it on day 2 or 3... You are thinking about wiping the ass with 100 dollar bills. MSN grabs it on end of week one or starting week 2. You want to gold plate the bills before wiping your ass now. Google drops your ass on week 3. You think the world has just ended. Yahoo picks it up on week 5. A new hope? MSN is doing 1st or 2nd result on month 2. Yahoo is doing top 5 for month 2. Google puts you on page 2 for month 3 MSN puts you on result 3 - 7 for month 3 Yahoo has you at 4 to 8 for month 3 Google puts you on page 1 for month 4 Yahoo has you also on page 1 for month 4 MSN has you on page 2 for month 4... Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page... Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

05-20-2005, 04:33 PM	#23
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	different formula

05-20-2005, 04:35 PM	#24
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	yep, just gotta keep building pages and diff types of pages. Some will hit good and some won't. If google aignt doing it, i'm sure either msn or yahoo is.

05-20-2005, 04:37 PM	#25
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