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sickkittens 05-20-2005 10:23 AM

SEO people
 
Is there an explanation why some sites/pages can get 1st page top listings for certain keywords/phrases in Yahoo! and those sites/pages can;t be found anywhere in Google for the same keywords/phrases?

JD 05-20-2005 10:24 AM

because their algos are different

vas 05-20-2005 10:25 AM

google and yahoo use different algo's in calculating site position perhaps?



edit: sperminator beat me to it ;)

Thrawn$ 05-20-2005 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
because their algos are different


Hooooora :banana

Master Yoda 05-20-2005 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickkittens
Is there an explanation why some sites/pages can get 1st page top listings for certain keywords/phrases in Yahoo! and those sites/pages can;t be found anywhere in Google for the same keywords/phrases?

2 different engines are they, for different algos they will use.....

sickkittens 05-20-2005 10:26 AM

But to have a top listing for a popular keyword on 1 and nowhere to be found on the other is normal?

sickkittens 05-20-2005 10:27 AM

Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

Master Yoda 05-20-2005 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens
But to have a top listing for a popular keyword on 1 and nowhere to be found on the other is normal?

Yes Heh, normal this is...

JD 05-20-2005 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Master Yoda
2 different engines are they, for different algos they will use.....

you've got to be fucking kidding me..........Star Wars fake nicks!? go away.....I pray your stupidity will not spread beyond the walls of this thread

Master Yoda 05-20-2005 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens
Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?


http://www.mcdar.net/KeywordTool/keywordtool.asp

Use this u may....

JD 05-20-2005 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens
Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

type the URL in the search box

BigRod 05-20-2005 10:29 AM

Its actually very normal because some optimizing techniques for one will actually hurt the other...

sumphatpimp 05-20-2005 10:29 AM

their was a thread on here a couple of days ago about that.
they said its the number of shares of stock you own from google or yahoo.
I believe him.

BigRod 05-20-2005 10:30 AM

Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

Master Yoda 05-20-2005 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
you've got to be fucking kidding me..........Star Wars fake nicks!? go away.....I pray your stupidity will not spread beyond the walls of this thread


Idiot r u....

WiredGuy 05-20-2005 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens
Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

Do a search on the SE for your domain name.
WG

radical 05-20-2005 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRod
Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

That's not necessarily true, I've had sites less than a week old rank high for certain keywords in Google. There is a number of factors which apply to a domain on whether or not the sandbox effect applies too it! One for instance is getting far too many links in a very short space of time can apply the sandbox effect to your site from Google.

fuzzypeach 05-20-2005 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens
Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

Yeah, just search google for index reports... Just type in your URL

It'll show you what pages each of the search engines have indexed.

Corleone 05-20-2005 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens
Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?


search for site:mydomain.com :thumbsup

bdld 05-20-2005 12:02 PM

happens all the time. it really shouldn't be that way though.

V_RocKs 05-20-2005 02:26 PM

Sandbox is for pussies.. just keep making shit. Google won't sandbox you for ever... So make your shit and it goes like this,

Google grabs it on day 2 or 3... You are thinking about wiping the ass with 100 dollar bills.
MSN grabs it on end of week one or starting week 2. You want to gold plate the bills before wiping your ass now.
Google drops your ass on week 3. You think the world has just ended.
Yahoo picks it up on week 5. A new hope?
MSN is doing 1st or 2nd result on month 2.
Yahoo is doing top 5 for month 2.
Google puts you on page 2 for month 3
MSN puts you on result 3 - 7 for month 3
Yahoo has you at 4 to 8 for month 3
Google puts you on page 1 for month 4
Yahoo has you also on page 1 for month 4
MSN has you on page 2 for month 4...

Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

baddog 05-20-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRod
Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...


do you make this stuff up as you go along?

BlueWire 05-20-2005 04:33 PM

different formula

Sosa 05-20-2005 04:35 PM

yep, just gotta keep building pages and diff types of pages. Some will hit good and some won't. If google aignt doing it, i'm sure either msn or yahoo is.

thaifan99 05-20-2005 04:37 PM

My cats love their sandbox.

fireorange 05-20-2005 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRod
Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

WTF? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

radical 05-20-2005 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
Sandbox is for pussies.. just keep making shit. Google won't sandbox you for ever... So make your shit and it goes like this,

Google grabs it on day 2 or 3... You are thinking about wiping the ass with 100 dollar bills.
MSN grabs it on end of week one or starting week 2. You want to gold plate the bills before wiping your ass now.
Google drops your ass on week 3. You think the world has just ended.
Yahoo picks it up on week 5. A new hope?
MSN is doing 1st or 2nd result on month 2.
Yahoo is doing top 5 for month 2.
Google puts you on page 2 for month 3
MSN puts you on result 3 - 7 for month 3
Yahoo has you at 4 to 8 for month 3
Google puts you on page 1 for month 4
Yahoo has you also on page 1 for month 4
MSN has you on page 2 for month 4...

Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

Well said :thumbsup

Build Build Build Test Test Test Repeat Repeat Repeat

Rorschach 05-20-2005 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

word up... spoken like someone who has actually been in the trenches rather than just talking about it :thumbsup


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