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  • sickkittens
    I am a meat popsicle.
    • Jul 2002
    • 25100

    #1

    SEO people

    Is there an explanation why some sites/pages can get 1st page top listings for certain keywords/phrases in Yahoo! and those sites/pages can;t be found anywhere in Google for the same keywords/phrases?

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  • JD
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2003
    • 22651

    #2
    because their algos are different

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    • vas
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2003
      • 562

      #3
      google and yahoo use different algo's in calculating site position perhaps?



      edit: sperminator beat me to it ;)
      icq: 375956791

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      • Thrawn$
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2002
        • 4596

        #4
        Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
        because their algos are different

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        • Master Yoda
          Registered User
          • May 2005
          • 16

          #5
          Originally posted by sickkittens
          Is there an explanation why some sites/pages can get 1st page top listings for certain keywords/phrases in Yahoo! and those sites/pages can;t be found anywhere in Google for the same keywords/phrases?
          2 different engines are they, for different algos they will use.....
          "Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless."

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          • sickkittens
            I am a meat popsicle.
            • Jul 2002
            • 25100

            #6
            But to have a top listing for a popular keyword on 1 and nowhere to be found on the other is normal?

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            • sickkittens
              I am a meat popsicle.
              • Jul 2002
              • 25100

              #7
              Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

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              • Master Yoda
                Registered User
                • May 2005
                • 16

                #8
                Originally posted by sickkittens
                But to have a top listing for a popular keyword on 1 and nowhere to be found on the other is normal?
                Yes Heh, normal this is...
                "Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless."

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                • JD
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22651

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Master Yoda
                  2 different engines are they, for different algos they will use.....
                  you've got to be fucking kidding me..........Star Wars fake nicks!? go away.....I pray your stupidity will not spread beyond the walls of this thread

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                  • Master Yoda
                    Registered User
                    • May 2005
                    • 16

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sickkittens
                    Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

                    http://www.mcdar.net/KeywordTool/keywordtool.asp

                    Use this u may....
                    "Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless."

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                    • JD
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 22651

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sickkittens
                      Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?
                      type the URL in the search box

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                      • BigRod
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 3685

                        #12
                        Its actually very normal because some optimizing techniques for one will actually hurt the other...
                        Rod Macdonald
                        Mainstream Ad Agency Owner
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                        • sumphatpimp
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 5235

                          #13
                          their was a thread on here a couple of days ago about that.
                          they said its the number of shares of stock you own from google or yahoo.
                          I believe him.

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                          • BigRod
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 3685

                            #14
                            Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...
                            Rod Macdonald
                            Mainstream Ad Agency Owner
                            ICQ: 607306

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                            • Master Yoda
                              Registered User
                              • May 2005
                              • 16

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                              you've got to be fucking kidding me..........Star Wars fake nicks!? go away.....I pray your stupidity will not spread beyond the walls of this thread

                              Idiot r u....
                              "Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless."

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                              • WiredGuy
                                Pounding Googlebot
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 34513

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sickkittens
                                Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?
                                Do a search on the SE for your domain name.
                                WG
                                I play with Google.

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                                • radical
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 2876

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BigRod
                                  Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...
                                  That's not necessarily true, I've had sites less than a week old rank high for certain keywords in Google. There is a number of factors which apply to a domain on whether or not the sandbox effect applies too it! One for instance is getting far too many links in a very short space of time can apply the sandbox effect to your site from Google.




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                                  • fuzzypeach
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 392

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sickkittens
                                    Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?
                                    Yeah, just search google for index reports... Just type in your URL

                                    It'll show you what pages each of the search engines have indexed.
                                    Sig too big!

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                                    • Corleone
                                      C.R.E.A.M
                                      • Apr 2003
                                      • 15262

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sickkittens
                                      Is there a way to find out if a certain domain is even in Google?

                                      search for site:mydomain.com

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                                      • bdld
                                        $100,000
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 11452

                                        #20
                                        happens all the time. it really shouldn't be that way though.

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                                        • V_RocKs
                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 32448

                                          #21
                                          Sandbox is for pussies.. just keep making shit. Google won't sandbox you for ever... So make your shit and it goes like this,

                                          Google grabs it on day 2 or 3... You are thinking about wiping the ass with 100 dollar bills.
                                          MSN grabs it on end of week one or starting week 2. You want to gold plate the bills before wiping your ass now.
                                          Google drops your ass on week 3. You think the world has just ended.
                                          Yahoo picks it up on week 5. A new hope?
                                          MSN is doing 1st or 2nd result on month 2.
                                          Yahoo is doing top 5 for month 2.
                                          Google puts you on page 2 for month 3
                                          MSN puts you on result 3 - 7 for month 3
                                          Yahoo has you at 4 to 8 for month 3
                                          Google puts you on page 1 for month 4
                                          Yahoo has you also on page 1 for month 4
                                          MSN has you on page 2 for month 4...

                                          Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

                                          Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.

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                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BigRod
                                            Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...

                                            do you make this stuff up as you go along?

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                                            • BlueWire
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 4628

                                              #23
                                              different formula

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                                              • Sosa
                                                In Tushy Land
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 40149

                                                #24
                                                yep, just gotta keep building pages and diff types of pages. Some will hit good and some won't. If google aignt doing it, i'm sure either msn or yahoo is.

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                                                • thaifan99
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 3029

                                                  #25
                                                  My cats love their sandbox.
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                                                  • fireorange
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                    • 1648

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BigRod
                                                    Google currently has a 10 month sandbox. The clock starts the day you get spidered, so you will find your name but not appear in any search results...
                                                    WTF?

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                                                    • radical
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 2876

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                      Sandbox is for pussies.. just keep making shit. Google won't sandbox you for ever... So make your shit and it goes like this,

                                                      Google grabs it on day 2 or 3... You are thinking about wiping the ass with 100 dollar bills.
                                                      MSN grabs it on end of week one or starting week 2. You want to gold plate the bills before wiping your ass now.
                                                      Google drops your ass on week 3. You think the world has just ended.
                                                      Yahoo picks it up on week 5. A new hope?
                                                      MSN is doing 1st or 2nd result on month 2.
                                                      Yahoo is doing top 5 for month 2.
                                                      Google puts you on page 2 for month 3
                                                      MSN puts you on result 3 - 7 for month 3
                                                      Yahoo has you at 4 to 8 for month 3
                                                      Google puts you on page 1 for month 4
                                                      Yahoo has you also on page 1 for month 4
                                                      MSN has you on page 2 for month 4...

                                                      Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

                                                      Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.
                                                      Well said

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                                                      • Rorschach
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 5579

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                        Now if you made something else every other day for this time period, guess what, you can still gold plate your 100's for toilet paper because you also have something on googles 1st page, yahoo's 1st page and MSN's first page...

                                                        Lesson here, stop reading GFY and checking stats all fucking day. Get to making shit on a regular basis.
                                                        word up... spoken like someone who has actually been in the trenches rather than just talking about it

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