dont u know PK's a hot webMISTRESS who's kept all us dawgs at bay for the last 7 years? some day she'll show up at a convention and we'll all be in shock. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

wow Dawgy, this is what I get when I try to access the message boards...

"""""System Error

Sorry, but we were unable to serve the web page you requested. For assistance, please e-mail [email protected] to report an I-MAIL/FORUM ACCESS SYSTEM ERROR.

You will need to provide two pieces of information:
* Your Screen Name
* Your current IP Address

Your current IP Address can be found by starting your IFCam software and clicking INFO (your IP Address will be displayed next to "Local IP"). """"""""'

What the hell is that?

Fletch.. I'm not sure who this 'owner guy' posting would be. I only know of one owner, and I don't think it would be him posting on the chathost boards.

There are more than just those two accounts also. In reviewing copies of my checks here, I know of at least two more.

I didn't post the fact that I'd heard from someone with a quick turnaround as a slam to anyone or to make anyone feel small. I'd received email from several webmasters asking if I could help since I've been with Webpower for so long. I emailed the main contact that I've had since 1996 and received a prompt and thorough reply that made sense to me. I thought by relaying things here would help.. not make others feel less important. When you've been dealing with people for 6 years on the internet you build some contacts that can help in crucial times.

I know it sucks to be hanging over a long weekend and stuff like this never ever comes at a good time.

Boards are working fine for me, not sure what's going on. Could they have blocked your IP possibly?
Note to webmasters wanting to start their own message board with a bang: Get a buttload of people depending on your checks and then don't pay them...lol That board is on fire and then some. Too bad it's boring, ugly and only accessible by registered hosts, if it wasn't Boneprone could probably really stir some shit up there...hehe.

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PK, no no no I didnt mean it in a "slam" sense, I just meant it sucks to hear that after 2 years of constant no response in regards to ANY question to hear you get a 3 hour response is great.

Often in times like this message boards tend to seem a bit tense, due to quick response and mixed emotions. Believe me in no way did I take offense to your reply.

As for the "owner guy" i dont know who it is either. The message board has been taken down or is not working either way so I cant track all the info on who said what and so on...some post was made by someone claiming to be an owner or something.

This has been going on for about a week or so I think... so people have been posting about it all week and everyone was told it was only rumors to go ahead and cash the checks, well it wasnt true.

On a good note, I am just glad I had all my cam girls move their sites off of ifriends and am using CC Bill now people can actually join. can you believe that, I had people emailing me telling me they were trying to join my paysites but ifriends credit card processing wasnt working for months. Not to mention the people who email me telling me about ifriends charging their cards for wrong amounts, and then saying they can only pay them in "time" meaning, ooops we accidentally charged your card 100 bucks, but hey have 200 minutes of video on us... eh okay done. Anyway. Goodnight all, have a good weekend and I hope it all gets better.

At least the CC Bill checks are always good (so far) muwaahaaaa ...

Thats exactly it, and they want to know who I am therefore asking for the info which I copied and pasted.

They are notorious for banning hosts who have something to say or question them... gee if I get banned from ifriends now we know why.

Why would they ask for my screen name and IP # if it was a 404 type server related error, thats weird, well, thats something to discuss in the morning.

Who gives a damn about volume of sales,that doesnt matter,my friend makes $50k a week and STILL doesnt get answers,PK has a more tight affiliation with them then im sure we are lead onto,im sure her account doesnt have built in shavers etc etc http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif,bottom line when i got to cash my checks next week and they bounce and i still havent recieved a courtesy email explaining this shit im taking action
and as for them saying only 242 checks or whatever are bad,does that make any sense?
it has nothing to do with the actual individual checks,THEY HAVE $0 IN THEIR MERCHANT ACCOUNT!!!! they cant cover ANY checks,they are just going to drag it on excuse after excuse,even if i get paid and everything works out,im still dumping them
my ratio ahs gone from 1:100 to 1:900 in a matter of 2 weeks,and like other webmasters i signed up under my code and the signup wasnt counted in my stats,even if they pay expect clickcash to drop off once 75% of their webmasters leave because of this
somebody start a fuckin good alternative

Clickcash are NOT taking new accounts. Try to open a new account, you'll see that when you click on the confirmation page...well the page doesn't exist

I have not been able to check my stats for 2 or 3 days now. cant get connected, get the 404 but even when i get the login screen i get the following error after login.

"501 Not Implemented
Cannot POST with this URL /cgi/LogInOut.exe.
Most likely, this was an attempt to execute a CGI program located in an area not configured to hold executable CGI programs."


anyone else having the same problems? who wants to start making bets on who ever owns the company has drained the bank account and is on the run. they just keep saying things are ok to keep the heat off. hehe

Still no reply to me. Two signups dissapeared from my stats during this "outage". Might not be a huge amount, but hell, I earnt them http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/frown.gif

First, click on http://apps.clickcash.com/cgi/loginout.exe
then fill the form, then click on the real-time statistics link, you should be able to view your stats. And now...tell us how many signups you had yesterday and today

Ok....up until recently they have at least been paying but it's been a long time since they've had 'a sterling reputation for integrity and reliability', especially the reliability part.


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If that isnt enough to make you pull all your links right there then you have some serious issues.

As for the apps.clicks.com link, that thing has been giving me connect refused for days. I havent been able to check stats for 3 or 4 days to even begin to tell you how bad it is.

I finally dropped when I hit 1:9000

Hi. Someone apparently hacked one of my ClickCash accounts. My password doesn't work, and when I do password retrieval, the email is sent to some address I've never heard of. This account is only owed $7k for the week. But, I haven't yet been able to get a response from anyone. I have tried every possible email address I can think of at both ClickCash and iFriends. This same thing happened to a friend of mine earlier this week, and he hasn't yet been able to get a reply either. Assuming the check is good, I really hope it doesn't get sent to someone who stole my account.

If anyone knows a contact person I can reach who would actually respond, I would appreciate it. Do you all think it would be useful to go to Palm Beach and talk to them @ their office on Monday or Tuesday (Monday is a holiday here). If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it, and I'll even give you a cut of the $. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif My ICQ is 126813090.

I would murder somebody over 7k. Sponsor or no.

A three hour turnaround on an email to clickcash is typical. Sometimes i get responses in minutes. Depends on who you send the email to.

All I can say, is that if you are so unhappy, leave the program. More signups to those of us that do like it. Lots of the big companies goof up every now and then and if missing one check is gonna make you go hungry, you should be working on an alternate form of income. Ever heard the one about not putting all your eggs in one basket?

ROFL spunky you obviously are bullshitting YOURSELF,i dont care who you are,your stats are fucked and so is your money,it has nothing to do with individual people in this case...EVERY webmaster and chat host have been screwed,and i will continue to say we are screwed until my check clears

Hi.. no kidding, if someone helps me get my $ for this week, I will give you 1k

Thanks

I'm not a chathost i'm just a mere webmaster who's checks are normaly over $14k a week from clickcash... None of my checks bounced, sure if it did it would sting a little but I'd be ok till they corrected it. And they WILL correct it just hang in there. I guess you've never bounced a check before? Just like PK I've been around for years and seen alot of sponsors come and go but clickcash has always been there. Give them a break they will fix the problem. It could be worse, we all know that there are alot of sponsors out there that wont pay you at all.

ok spunky.. who do I send email to? I've mailed stacy, lori, hadhazy, db, abuse, webmaster, and support, with no responses as of yet?

In the past clickcash has always paid me, and sometimes my checks have been for a lot. This is why it's surprising.. I can't believe someone hacked my account, and is gonna try to steal my money http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

I dont know about checks bouncing because I just started sending to them last week.

Got a $2000 check coming, so we'll see what happens.

I emailed support twice about different issues, with no response at all.

I dont think I trust them much,

Our upcoming projects include a web personals site similar to ifriends, but that is months away.

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you're right, depends on who you send the email to. but it mostly depends on who YOU are. i have emailed support at least a dozen times over the last two months about issues that are NOT covered in the faq or anywhere else on their site, yet i NEVER receive a response. EVER. yet you, pk, and others i know of can email support or al or anyone else down there & get a response within a few minutes or hours. i know life isnt fair, but that is just no way to run a business. are my signups not as important as yours?

and there are no other published email addresses for webmasters other than support@ so how does one become so important that they actually get another email address to send to? is it volume? is it time? maybe in 10 years when im sending 1000 signups a day, maybe THEN i'll be worthy of a response from the almighty gods at webpower. how dare i disturb them before then.

sheeesh

again,it has nothing to do with how many signups,because i know people who make more then PK using clickcash and they can never get an email response back,they have some kind of inside deals with them is the thing http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif
yeah,if you have an email address that actually gets a response why dont you give it out? we all deserve an answer,this hearsay shit is getting old,if im getting screwed for sure then i want to at least have a right to run my mouth http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif if there is a problem and they are fixing it then maybe they should release a statement and say something happened and it will be fixed instead of sending half ass lackeys to explain it for them,no offence PK http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

Doesn't anyone think it strange that somebody from CC hasn't bothered to come in here and make such a statement?

Earlier in this thread somebody mentioned a problem with a CCBill check - almost instantly someone from CCBill was here explaining the situation.

On the other hand we have CC taking bad press on boards all over the place and no-one with any official standing appears to comment.

Last night I signed up with another webcam sponsor who has a much more conservative business model. I emailed them with a question in the early hours of the morning their time - I had a reply within 30 minutes from a real person.

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Believe me.. I'm anything but half-assed. There's a whole ass back there (twisting to look behind me). My sole reason for ever posting in this thread was because I had been asked by several webmasters about the issue.

In regards to an official statement... if you read page two of this thread someone posted a copy of a statement by Louann from Ifriends which is the most official thing I've seen to this point.

[This message has been edited by PersianKitty (edited 01-20-2002).]

I want to personaly step up and thank you for your posts. You didnt Have To Post anything, but you took the time to come here and intervine in somthing that resembles a witch hunt. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif
Thanks Again

Yes, yes... I appreciate everyone's posts too, but I'm still miffed that:

• I haven't heard back from ClickCash.
• ClickCash hasn't made a public attempt to address this and many other recent problems with their service.

Until at least one of these issues is addressed, I'll remain upset, resentful, and vindictive.

Fro

[This message has been edited by Fro (edited 01-20-2002).]

well my checks arent nearly as big as anyone of yours, but... I can say that i think they shave traffic. last thursday i went to hit refresh on the window i had my account loaded in, and i noticed that the hits for wednesday and tuesday had changed. now i did it again out of curiosity and it happened again, till about 5:30pm those other 2 days had changed, just out of curiosity anyone else notice this and would have an idea why those hits registerd late, and if they lost hits like this what about sales?
i had about 3k hits and 15 sales on one day and 6k hits and 6 sales that doesnt sound right at all

To be honest, when ClickCash's system appeared to be working properly (i.e. no server errors, etc.), their stats were mostly in line with what I run on my end. Any traffic I passed to ClickCash first went through AdCycle. I would estimate that ClickCash logged approximately 90% of the traffic. That other 10% could be attributable to closed windows, back buttons, and so on.

However, signups were awfully erratic on this regular stream of traffic. One could certainly take exception to that, if such swings in conversion ratios were attributable to ClickCash's error.

Fro

ok Fro, I appreciate your comment on this, I also was wondering if you think i should use adcycle on my sites when i run any sponsor programs?


wow, I wish I would have known of such a company a year or so ago, I could have made alot more money. thanks for the info Fro, Got an email I can reach you at to discuss somethings?


[This message has been edited by cheesev1 (edited 01-20-2002).]

Hey, no problem!

AdCycle is a great choice if your programs will generate less than 2-3 million impressons per month. This limit is something I seem to remember from the AdCycle support pages. I do know that AdCycle had no problem with the ~100,000 impression days I threw at it.

You can't beat the price either. It's a super product.

You should ALWAYS be using some sort of tracking system in order to determine click through ratios. It helps you to spot ineffective banners/links and expose questionable sponsors. For example, I haven't yet found an honest per click program because of the data I've generated with AdCycle. By "honest," I mean a sponsor that reports even 50% of what I send it.

Fro

[This message has been edited by Fro (edited 01-20-2002).]

Fro,
Any way to contact you, I have some Questions for you?
Email me at
[email protected]

I cant explain why some of you get replies and some dont. I always send email to Al ([email protected]) and I'm always calm and civil in messages, meaning i'm not swearing every other words and I'm not accusing them of this or that or telling them they suck etc. Usualy I get very prompt and curteous responses. On the rare occasion that i dont get a reply, i just resend the message with a note that i didnt get a reply the first time.

Hi everyone. I just found this board today. I'm not as big a fish with iFriends/ClickCash as most of you seem to be, but yes, I've had my share of problems as well. It started for me around the new year... did the same thing happen to everyone else's conversion ratios? Here's what I got, on the same type/volume of traffic:

(week of 12/23/01 to 12/29/01)
Conversion Ratio: ( 1:140 )

(week of 12/30/01 to 01/05/02)
Conversion Ratio: ( 1:293 )

(week of 01/06/02 to 01/12/02)
Conversion Ratio: ( 1:557 )

(week of 01/13/02 to 01/19/02)
Conversion Ratio: ( 0:45 )

Apart from the whole boucing check thing, that ratio is utterly ridiculous, and makes no sense whatsoever http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/frown.gif I've emailed [email protected] 3 times over the past weeks, with, you guessed it, zero response.

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dont think this thread is slipping away http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif
they are now shaving hits! to lower ratios this is ridiculous
yeah im still sending traffic because i dont feel like pulling my links

Damn shittiness..sounds like everyones getting screwed by those bums.

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Hey Dave,

how is it going. Was nice meeting you at the Miami-Show.
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Hi Tayloryum,

great to see our webmasters active on the boards as well. Always good to network.
Your Paycheck for the january 15th paycut is on its way. And most likely it wont bounce LOL
We just switched to automated check printing software and all. Should work just excellent to handle the upcoming bulk of checks.
Signup are just crazy and the system 26x sales in the last 12 days. Our european credit card and dialer merchants do the happy dance. so do we lol.

Have a good one everyone

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