dunefield

I HOPE SO!!!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlin...333210&cc=3436

Takeover near as Glazer buys Irish stake
Manchester United have been plunged into turmoil as Malcolm Glazer's £790million takeover dream moved within touching distance of becoming reality.

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radical

There's a lot of pissed off man u fans tonight

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Thumbler

They'll get over it

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GatorB

As a Bucs fan I say SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. Glazer took the most losingest franchise in the history of the NFL ever and made it a champion. Funny how this is sooooo fucking bad yet when the announcement was made Man U stock went UP by 13%.

dunefield

soccer in england is unlike american sports... the teams are based around the fans and business is a secondary matter... if man utd was to be bought the fans will no longer have any say on the matter not to mention glazer can do what he pleases... lets not forget does he actually follow soccer?

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DaLord

You're right. It's not one bit like american sports. My bet is that they will lose a LOT of fans. I'm looking forward to the next game at home. Man there will be some insane TIFOs going up.

Michael O

Ofcause the stocks go up when someone moves in to take over a company.
The fear is that Glazer will raise prices and milk the club for every penny its worth without caring about the results of the team

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thaifan99

Its players that win games..................not owners...........and they have the players!

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wedouglas

hey dune, you ever listen to that album?

dunefield

yeah man listened to it... i still prefer fiona apple's though... ;)

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wedouglas

to each his own

Scott McD

Ah well, i'm sure they'll survive...

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Robin WMHQ

Maybe now Man-U will have what they need to fight back against Chelsea next season!

GatorB

That's why the Bucs went from 16 losing seasons in 19 years to 5 playoff appearances and a SB title in 10 years. And from dead last in merchandise seales to perninal top 10. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

As far as raising prices. Well let's see you couldn't GIVE Bucs ticket away before Glazer now the waiting list is 110K long. They says expect to wait at least 8-12 years maybe more if you got on the list today.

Before you FEAR what he MIGHT do why not see what he has actually done. Also if these Irish guys bought Glazer's share would you guys be having fits now? Ummmmm no. So what does that say. Oh it because he's an AMERICAN.

I'm pefectly happy with him as the Bucs owner and if you don't want him then that's your problem. Thing is he already owned nearly 1/3 of the team as is so he already was having an inlfuence on your team don't you think?

Also as far as him not following socccer. How do you know this? let me clue you in to a couple of things. A good deal of owners of American sports teams don't even follw that sport and I would bet $10K that Glazer probally knows more about soccer than he does American football. That's why smart owners hire GMs to run things.

Sarah_Jayne

no it is because he doesn't follow the sport ..believe it or not that matters in this country. Atleast the guy that bought Chelsea is a fan of the sport if not the specific team.

As far as how we know..well the British airwaves have been filled today with people that know him well saying he doesn't.

Now, ManU brought it on themselves by dancing with the devil

Mikey

Now MU will have the $$$ to compete with Chelsea.

GatorB

Like I said smart owners let a GM run the team. Also Man U is a PUBLICLY traded stock meaning you or I could buy shares. They are less than $6 a share. Or were before today. If all these supposed die-hard Man U fans each bought 10 shares Glazer wouldn't have anything to buy. And he's not the devil. Jeez get over yourselves already. He's American you hate America and that's the whole thing.

I know Man U has been very successful in the past but when was the last time they won something like this?

Sarah_Jayne

um, not that long ago and kept it for years

Sarah_Jayne

i could be wrong BUT I think Man U were #1 in the league (ie won) in '93, 94, 96,97,99, 2000, 01 and 02. When they didn't they were #2 or #3.

That is why everyone hates them..lol

GatorB

Yes and soccer doesn't have a salary cap does it? If they are still good what all this talk about demotion?

Point is where is all the hate for the Irish dudes that are selling their shares to Glazer? It take 2 to tango now doesn't it?

Sarah_Jayne

Soccer players make nothing in relation to US baseball or football players

hey..I am not standing up for Man U..I am a charlton fan...just saying that unless you understand how it works here you aren't going to win people over about this. The regulation thing makes it a whole different game.

GatorB

Once again I think Man U fans are getting all uptight about nothing. Jeez give the man achance. IF he had a bad history with the NFL then you might have a point. As far as soccer players and their salaries well Beckham( sp? ) make more than 99% of NFL players. Also the NFL's $85 mil salary cap has to be spread over 53 players which is not an easy as you think. Also NFL players actually make less on average than baseball, NBA or even NHL players.

I would have ZERO problems if one of my favorite teams were sold to an Englishman. And so would most Americans. I guess we are more tolerant.

Sarah_Jayne

beckham made most of his salary through comercials and stuff...but it isn't nationality..a russian owns Chelsea..it is about knowing the sport....for those that care.

juve20

I'm not a united fan but I hate these rich folk coming along and buying clubs like we do food!

tony

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GatorB

Personally I wished he wouldn't by Man U just to shut the fucking limeys up. As far as worrying about debt the fact is if he had to he could always sel the Bucs if he wants Man U that bad and accoring to Forbes they are worth $779 million. By the way which is 9th out of the 32 teams in the NFL and when he bought the team in 1995 he paid $192 million.

from Forbes

Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Malcolm Glazer is making more news lately with his interest in soccer's Manchester United than he is with his football team......

ManU is considered the most popular soccer team in the world. With a season ticket waiting list of 110,000, Glazer isn't doing so bad with the Bucs either.

dunefield

Considering he will be BORROWING 300 million dollars to buy out Man Utd that would mean ticket prices will go up and even selling of players... Now he wants INSTANT SUCCESS!!! Now he is he going to do that when he's already borrowed 300 million to buy out a club so thats probably another 75 million to achieve that instant success... How is he going to get the money? From exploiting prices on tickets and fans...

plus you can't compare American sports to soccer... these clubs have been founded 100+ years ago and are heavily into tradition... American sports are pretty much just franchises and move towns if the popularity isn't high enough in a state... to give control to a person who has no love for the game and just wants to wreak $$$ for personal benefit is a sad sight for soccer...

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NickB.

it will end up with the man owning 75% or more, so the club has to get off the stockmarket, fans are making a big deal about this........I wonder what's on the minds of the players now......

Gunni

The Man U fans are worried about him buying 90.1% of the shares, and then he has the right to automatically buy the rest, if he does that he can transfer the debt to the club, and if things go bad he can just walk away (if Man U is doing bad and the Bucs good, why would he sell the Bucs?). They will not be able to Match Chelsea, Ferguson is losing his touch, the fans didn't even stick around after the final home game so the players could give them the lap of honour and clap for their support during the season.

And quite frankly buying a football club for that much money doesn't really make that much sense (specially a decaing one), he could have bought Totenham, and had a few hundred millions left to spend on players. To become more vaaluable than he payed for them they will have to do the same as they did in the 90's, and with Chelsea and Arsenal there, this is not going to happen.

The fans are not against him because he is American as you think, but because their afraid for their club, it's as simple as that. It's not like this guy just walked in with 10 billion dollars like Abramovich, he doesn't actually have the money to buy the club, all it seems like he has is the capability to get them in a huge debt

dunefield

Amen....

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hvidlogspusher

i dont think so, i think the guy buying it will make the club even better

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Gunni

maybe he will, I guess we'll just have to find out

kmanrox

Brits are some of the most racist people I've ever met against Jews and I'd have to think that the fact a Jewish-American now owns them. 2 of the things they like least. Jews and Americans.

Arsenal has some songs they sing against rivals Tottenham and I dont know the exact words but a good portion of it is directed against the 'Jews' in Tottenham....

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Postmaster

I don't think so.
Abramovich is ten times richer than Glazer.
Roman didn't have to borrow a penny to buy Chelski.

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Lee

The fear is that at 75% plus 1 share he will delist the company and transfer all the debt he incurred in buying the club onto them. However as Gator has said, he turned a team of what realistically could be termed "no hopers" into champions, so you have to give the guy a chance.

And at the end of the day he is a businessman, and a businessman will not invest in something to lose money.

thaifan99

The whole premier league is in debt.......very few teams if any make a real profit.

if not for billionaires the bubble will burst soon.

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Gunni

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And btw. Abramovich is a Jew as well
wonder how the chelsea head hunters feel about that

Sarah_Jayne

I am ultra sensitive to anti-american press in relation to Americans coming to the Uk, etc for obvious reasons and I have to say I haven't felt that vibe AT ALL over this story. I have also not heard his religion mentioned once. I am sure there are morons somewhere that care but then they also vote BNP.

Michael O

Idiot.

Just because someone disagrees with an American doesn't mean they hate Americans.
The ignorence of some people.

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evanmorgan

its different..... UTD are the biggest football club in the world, their isnt much room to grow as a brand for them, and the fact that hes partially buying it with a loan doesnt bode well

Evan

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evanmorgan

ONCE AGAIN I SAY.......UNITED ARE ALREADY THE BIGGEST CLUB IN THE WORLD - They cant grow, the bucs had the room to grow because they were shite.

Evan

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evanmorgan

Everyone knows that magnier and mcmanus are businessmen, FFS mcmanus made all his money as a pro gambler, there has to be something dodgy in that. The difference is, neither of them actually owned the club.....

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evanmorgan

have you ever seen a football match before? Football fans go every week, american sport fans go and see a couple of games a year

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jf2404

It's got nothing to with him being an American or not.

I love Americans, infact you give me a Blonde American girl here now and i'll fuck her, see .

It's the fact he has borrowed something like £300 million to buy the club.

So the day he does oficially take over they are in huge debt. They are already the biggest Soccer club in the world, they are already the richest soccer club in the world.

If he comes out and says exactly what he plans for the club, regarding ticket prices, merchandise prices then that will be fine, but by the look of it he is a recluse who is just in it for the money.

Each Saturday 62,000 fans pay upto $72 per ticket, and if he doesn't come out and say what he has planned, then most fans will boycott the club until something changes.

The fans are for the football, not for the money.

evanmorgan

Jews do go on and on about their past though, i'd be wanting to forget it rather than bring it up all the time. However this is probably just jews covered by the press, we all know what the press want, $$$

Evan

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evanmorgan

difference between bucs and man utd. Maybe a silly example but hear me out

Anyone could go to a car boot sale with a bit of knowledge and pick up a painting for 30 quid and sell it for 100 at an auction. But that same person isnt going to make a 300% profit if he trys to buy the mona lisa, get my drift?
When you buy utd, you are buying a developed brand, and he is paying way over the odds for it. As someone else said, im sure Alan Sugar would sell his spurs shares for peanuts (compared to utd).

If you want to make money in the adult industry, would you

-Take out a loan and buy thehun for 2x what its worth
-Build up your own business or buy smaller sites

Think about it

Evan

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DarkJedi

If you're not a Manc, you're a wank.

Gunni

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