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spentrent · 05-11-2005, 11:04 PM

- Live AND recorded audio

- All talk, so it can be compressed, maybe 48 bitrate

What kind of hardware expense and monthly bandwidth expense am I looking at for the following numbers of listeners: 500, 1000, 3000, 10,000

Anyone else doing streaming audio?

juicys_left_testicle · 05-11-2005, 11:04 PM

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pr0 · 05-11-2005, 11:08 PM

i can get ya $27 a meg...& the techs who set the stuff up are pretty much experts in streaming audio/shoutcast servers

zagi · 05-11-2005, 11:10 PM

I would recommend shoutcast as the streaming server solution

The number of listeners * bit rate = traffic / second

At 500 listeners max for a station you can expect about 200 connected throughout the day if your station is popular

200 * 48kbps = 9.6Mbps -- this would require roughly a 10Mbps server

Scale the # of listeners up and you'll see how much bandwidth you would require.

We can guide you along and help you setup everything, ICQ: 4930562 and it would run about $550/month for the example quoted above

spentrent · 05-11-2005, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0

i can get ya $27 a meg...& the techs who set the stuff up are pretty much experts in streaming audio/shoutcast servers

Can you have a tech email me a ballpark estimate for the numbers of listeners in my original post? Let's say each amount means that many listeners 24 hours a day... thanks!

spentrent · 05-11-2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagi

Scale the # of listeners up and you'll see how much bandwidth you would require.

Thanks for this info!

Jace · 05-11-2005, 11:14 PM

use shoutcast, best option and all major media players stream mp3

spentrent · 05-11-2005, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

use shoutcast, best option and all major media players stream mp3

Is "SHOUTCast" simply a protocol for streaming data, or does it have any production side software for doing live broadcasts? I'm trying to get a feel for how I would integrate my studio in location A with my server in location B.

TIA Jace

Ycaza · 05-12-2005, 12:50 AM

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spentrent · 05-12-2005, 03:55 AM

Thanks for the extensive info! Now, what do I need for

1) 100 listeners per hour
2) 300
4) 1000
5) 5000

for bitrates 24, 48, 96, 128?

Thank you.

Hint: the hosting companies that answer these questions have the best chance of getting my business.

Gemhdar · 05-12-2005, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spentrent

Thanks for the extensive info! Now, what do I need for

1) 100 listeners per hour
2) 300
4) 1000
5) 5000

for bitrates 24, 48, 96, 128?

Thank you.

Hint: the hosting companies that answer these questions have the best chance of getting my business.

hey spentrent,

Brewing a quote and an answers section to your questions to be emailed.

I also added you to ICQ, looking forward to chatting once the email and quote are sent out.

Good luck on your search.

zagi · 05-12-2005, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spentrent

Now, what do I need for
1) 100 listeners per hour
2) 300
4) 1000
5) 5000

for bitrates 24, 48, 96, 128?

The formula is as follows:
bit rate X # of listeners / 1000 = # of megabits / sec
Then to get the number of MB transfer you use the following forumula
( bit rate / 8 ) x # of listeners x 60 secs x 60 min = # of MegaBytes transferred per hour

For Example:
24kbps X 100 listeners = 2.4mbps or roughly 10MB of transfer per hour
128kbps X 100 listeners = 12.8mbps or 5.7GB of transfer per hour

24kbps X 5000 listeners = 120mbps or 54GB of transfer per hour
128kbps x 5000 listeners = 640mbps or 288GB of transfer per hour

To give you a rough idea, 10mbps is about $550
100mbps is about $4000

Now mbps allows you transfer this at full speed for the ENTIRE month with that price, and GB pricing starts at about $0.40/GB and goes down to about $0.15/GB

*In regards to your other question with having a server in 1 location and your computer in another, its really quite simple. You install winamp and configure it to send to a shoutcast server by using a simple plugin and pointing it to the IP address. Then winamp can be used to either play pre-recorded material or use line in to relay whatever is being played/heard to your server and then out to the rest of the world. Best of all shoutcast is free!

Poppy · 05-12-2005, 08:57 AM

Email coming shortly.

FrankWhite · 05-12-2005, 09:00 AM

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spentrent · 05-14-2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagi

The formula is as follows:
bit rate X # of listeners / 1000 = # of megabits / sec
Then to get the number of MB transfer you use the following forumula
( bit rate / 8 ) x # of listeners x 60 secs x 60 min = # of MegaBytes transferred per hour

For Example:
24kbps X 100 listeners = 2.4mbps or roughly 10MB of transfer per hour
128kbps X 100 listeners = 12.8mbps or 5.7GB of transfer per hour

24kbps X 5000 listeners = 120mbps or 54GB of transfer per hour
128kbps x 5000 listeners = 640mbps or 288GB of transfer per hour

To give you a rough idea, 10mbps is about $550
100mbps is about $4000

Now mbps allows you transfer this at full speed for the ENTIRE month with that price, and GB pricing starts at about $0.40/GB and goes down to about $0.15/GB

*In regards to your other question with having a server in 1 location and your computer in another, its really quite simple. You install winamp and configure it to send to a shoutcast server by using a simple plugin and pointing it to the IP address. Then winamp can be used to either play pre-recorded material or use line in to relay whatever is being played/heard to your server and then out to the rest of the world. Best of all shoutcast is free!

Thanks for breaking this down for me!

rounders · 05-14-2005, 11:41 AM

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05-11-2005, 11:04 PM	#1
spentrent Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA Posts: 876	Hosting companies: I need a HOST for streaming audio - Live AND recorded audio - All talk, so it can be compressed, maybe 48 bitrate What kind of hardware expense and monthly bandwidth expense am I looking at for the following numbers of listeners: 500, 1000, 3000, 10,000 Anyone else doing streaming audio?

05-11-2005, 11:08 PM	#3
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05-11-2005, 11:10 PM	#4
zagi Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,238	I would recommend shoutcast as the streaming server solution The number of listeners * bit rate = traffic / second At 500 listeners max for a station you can expect about 200 connected throughout the day if your station is popular 200 * 48kbps = 9.6Mbps -- this would require roughly a 10Mbps server Scale the # of listeners up and you'll see how much bandwidth you would require. We can guide you along and help you setup everything, ICQ: 4930562 and it would run about $550/month for the example quoted above __________________ Managed US/NL Hosting [ [Reality Check Network ] Dell XEON Servers + 1/2/3 TB Packages ICQ: 4-930-562

05-12-2005, 12:50 AM	#9
Ycaza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the 805 Posts: 4,290	got a shoutcast tech on staff and here's the rest New pricing for Hosting as low as a Nickel per Gigabyte 22 Gigs to the net 5 data centers in LA 2 Data Centers in Bay Area 2 Data centers in Seattle/Vancouver 100% uptime if you choose multi-homed server packages All single dedicated P4/AMD servers 99.00 200 GB BW included 99.99% SLA Guarantee Free power rebooters supplied, manual reboots also free windows or linux Additional bandwith as follows: Tier 2 (cogent and others in EQX peering exchange) 320 Gb (1 Mbps @ 50/M) = 50.00 only 16 cents per GB 3200 Gb (10 Mbps @ 40/M) = 400.00 only 13 cents per GB 8000 Gb (25 Mbps @ 30/M) = 750.00 only 10 cents per GB 16000 GB (50 Mbps @ 20/M) = 1,000.00 only 07 cents per GB 32000 GB (100 Mbps @ 15/M) = 1,500.00 only 05 cents per GB Tier 1 (UUNET, Level3, Global Crossing, Teleglobe, AboveNet and more) 320 Gb (1 Mbps @ 75/M) = 75.00 only 23 cents per GB 3200 Gb (10 Mbps @ 50/M) = 500.00 only 16 cents per GB 8000 Gb (25 Mbps @ 35/M) = 875.00 only 11 cents per GB 16000 GB (50 Mbps @ 30/M) = 1,500.00 only 09 cents per GB 32000 GB (100 Mbps @ 25/M) = 2,500.00 only 08 cents per GB All Data centers offer every bandwith solution!!!!! Ask for custom routing and multiple subnet hosting!!!! have Ip's in multiple Class C networks!!!! Wholesale pricing for carriers!!!! __________________ Caz Thrush Head Honcho [email protected] http://thrushtech.com ICQ: 304883574 do people still icq?

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spentrent Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA Posts: 876	Thanks for the extensive info! Now, what do I need for 1) 100 listeners per hour 2) 300 4) 1000 5) 5000 for bitrates 24, 48, 96, 128? Thank you. Hint: the hosting companies that answer these questions have the best chance of getting my business.

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