do TGP2's actually get bookmarkers? - GoFuckYourself.com

mika · 01-20-2002, 11:38 AM

If the answer is no,
I think the idea of TGP2 wont ever work

Just wondering cuz I dont see the visitor stats of these sites growing

railz · 01-20-2002, 12:58 PM

From my very limited stats (thanks ISPrime!), yes they do get bookmarkers. Still trying to figure out a way to track them with any degree of accuracy though.

xApster · 01-20-2002, 03:11 PM

every site gets bookmarkers..

tgps with p=40 on ucj have bookmarkers it just depends how loyal they are.

Clownbarf · 01-20-2002, 03:43 PM

That's the big question I've been asking. Sure some people will bookmark, but I can't see how they'll ever attain the level of bookmarkers that a regular, no BS, TGP will.

I also can't see how in the world one would pay $4 / minute just to browse porn when they could just signup for a paysite. But it happens.

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railz · 01-20-2002, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Clownbarf:
I also can't see how in the world one would pay $4 / minute just to browse porn when they could just signup for a paysite. But it happens.

HUH?

cheque · 01-20-2002, 03:57 PM

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I also can't see how in the world one would pay $4 / minute just to browse porn when they could just signup for a paysite. But it happens.

People are paying $4/minute because they don't read the terms, they don't know they are paying $4 most of the times they think it's free.

People are bookmarking and visiting tgp2 sites because they haven't found any "normal" TGP sites. When people found a good TGP site he (or she) probably never visits the TGP2 site again.

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Naughty · 01-20-2002, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by cheque:
When people found a good TGP site he (or she) probably never visits the TGP2 site again.

I do not think so, it is just where they are looking for.
If you are on 56k6 modem, you'll be more than happy to get only 5 pics per gallery, as they load a lot faster. You can look at a lot of more TGP2 galleries in the same time you look at 1 TGP gallery.
Besides that, I think everybody will bookmark a'good' site sooner than a shitty site. If you have a shitty TGP site, you won't get bookmarkers, if you have a shitty TGP2 site, you won't them either.

cheque · 01-20-2002, 04:15 PM

You're right Naughty. A quality TGP2 site is better then a shitty TGP site.

But in the long term all visitors of TGP2 sites will find a quality TGP site and stop visiting the TGP2 site. It doesn't take much longer to load the 10 extra thumbnails (+/- 2Kb each).

A surfer still can scan the galleries quickly and download all the pictures if he/she likes the gallery. If somebody likes a gallery they want to download as much pictures as possible. That's way they stick by the normal TGP's when they finaly found these sites.

But before they found a TGP site there are enough options to make a sale with TGP2.

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railz · 01-20-2002, 04:17 PM

I'm confused? Where is this "$4 a minute" coming from?

bhutocracy · 01-20-2002, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by railz:
I'm confused? Where is this "$4 a minute" coming from?

it was a semi out of context reference to dialers.. ie "speaking of silly things surfers do"

mika · 01-20-2002, 05:25 PM

Ok my thought is that if TGP2's dont get enough bookmarkers then there is no point in listing new galleries. Why send NEW visitors that you get from trades/SEs/wherever to other people's galleries?

If they are not bookmarkers they wont come to your site again so why update the galleries at all. It's basically just CJ'ing in a more surfer friendly way.

So they (TGP2's) have been around a few months and there are only a few sites getting over 5k visitors per day. Maybe some bookmarkers, but not much.

railz · 01-20-2002, 05:41 PM

It's getting there. TGP2 has only been going a few months, but already the numbers are encouraging. Less bandwidth, better click thrus and more creativity in the galleries.

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FATPad · 01-20-2002, 05:56 PM

Some of them will get bookmarkers.

The rest of them seem to be nothing more than CJ sites that list galleries with 5 pics and don't intend to build a solid traffic base, so they probably never will.

ADL Colin · 01-21-2002, 03:38 AM

At the "TGP2 Brainstorm" in Las Vegas last month, a gathering of TGP2 webmasters, I was able to learn some very interesting things about TGP2, compare data, etc. and add to the information I had already gathered.

Here are some facts:

TGP2 is 5 months old now though most of the "larger" TGP2 webmasters only started 4 months ago. There are at least a few webmasters making between $8k-$10k/month from their TGP2s alone. How substantiated is this figure? TGP2Bucks.com is paying two webmasters over $6000/month each. So, I feel pretty DAMNED confident

TGP2 webmaster are heavily concentrated on how to make more money rather than how do I get to the top of a counter? If you want to play the Hits Counter game, shit, play TGP1, that is really fun! Right? If you want to make money, I think it is a LOT easier in TGP2 than TGP1.

The BOTTOM line is that a TGP2 makes 6x the money that a TGP1 does for the same number of hits. So, a 5k TGP2 makes the same money as a 30k TGP1.

WHO can make money from TGP2? What kind of webmaster can most easily make money in TGP2? Honestly, I think that mod-sized (10k-100k) experienced TGP1 webmasters make the ideal TGP2 webmaster. If you can start a TGP1 with 5k traffic tomorrow, then you understand enough to be able to start a TGP2 with 5k traffic tomorrow. A 5k TGP2 is the equivalent of a 30k TGP1 $-wise, which is quite a bit more difficult to start for most webmasters than a 5k TGP2.

About the bookmarkers, the answer is YES, they do. I have too many of them on my TGP1s and I am just SICK of the poor money I make with my TGP1s.

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railz · 01-21-2002, 09:36 AM

Still looking to buy some traffic to jumpstart mine

01-20-2002, 11:38 AM	#1
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	do TGP2's actually get bookmarkers? If the answer is no, I think the idea of TGP2 wont ever work Just wondering cuz I dont see the visitor stats of these sites growing

01-20-2002, 12:58 PM	#2
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	From my very limited stats (thanks ISPrime!), yes they do get bookmarkers. Still trying to figure out a way to track them with any degree of accuracy though.

01-20-2002, 03:11 PM	#3
xApster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,188	every site gets bookmarkers.. tgps with p=40 on ucj have bookmarkers it just depends how loyal they are.

01-20-2002, 03:43 PM	#4
Clownbarf Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 283	That's the big question I've been asking. Sure some people will bookmark, but I can't see how they'll ever attain the level of bookmarkers that a regular, no BS, TGP will. I also can't see how in the world one would pay $4 / minute just to browse porn when they could just signup for a paysite. But it happens. ------------------ $125 / Mbit! Insanely cheap hosting! Up to $1.15 for an email

01-20-2002, 04:15 PM	#8
cheque Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 259	You're right Naughty. A quality TGP2 site is better then a shitty TGP site. But in the long term all visitors of TGP2 sites will find a quality TGP site and stop visiting the TGP2 site. It doesn't take much longer to load the 10 extra thumbnails (+/- 2Kb each). A surfer still can scan the galleries quickly and download all the pictures if he/she likes the gallery. If somebody likes a gallery they want to download as much pictures as possible. That's way they stick by the normal TGP's when they finaly found these sites. But before they found a TGP site there are enough options to make a sale with TGP2. ------------------ Check out this Hot PornstarGarden.com 70% Partnership Program PornstarGarden 70% Partnership Program

01-20-2002, 04:17 PM	#9
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	I'm confused? Where is this "$4 a minute" coming from?

01-20-2002, 05:25 PM	#11
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	Ok my thought is that if TGP2's dont get enough bookmarkers then there is no point in listing new galleries. Why send NEW visitors that you get from trades/SEs/wherever to other people's galleries? If they are not bookmarkers they wont come to your site again so why update the galleries at all. It's basically just CJ'ing in a more surfer friendly way. So they (TGP2's) have been around a few months and there are only a few sites getting over 5k visitors per day. Maybe some bookmarkers, but not much.

01-20-2002, 05:41 PM	#12
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	It's getting there. TGP2 has only been going a few months, but already the numbers are encouraging. Less bandwidth, better click thrus and more creativity in the galleries. ------------------ Railz Free4Porn - ExtremeGreen's New free signup system is new and it rocks! Give away FREE email accounts make HUGE $$

01-20-2002, 05:56 PM	#13
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Some of them will get bookmarkers. The rest of them seem to be nothing more than CJ sites that list galleries with 5 pics and don't intend to build a solid traffic base, so they probably never will.

01-21-2002, 03:38 AM	#14
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	At the "TGP2 Brainstorm" in Las Vegas last month, a gathering of TGP2 webmasters, I was able to learn some very interesting things about TGP2, compare data, etc. and add to the information I had already gathered. Here are some facts: TGP2 is 5 months old now though most of the "larger" TGP2 webmasters only started 4 months ago. There are at least a few webmasters making between $8k-$10k/month from their TGP2s alone. How substantiated is this figure? TGP2Bucks.com is paying two webmasters over $6000/month each. So, I feel pretty DAMNED confident TGP2 webmaster are heavily concentrated on how to make more money rather than how do I get to the top of a counter? If you want to play the Hits Counter game, shit, play TGP1, that is really fun! Right? If you want to make money, I think it is a LOT easier in TGP2 than TGP1. The BOTTOM line is that a TGP2 makes 6x the money that a TGP1 does for the same number of hits. So, a 5k TGP2 makes the same money as a 30k TGP1. WHO can make money from TGP2? What kind of webmaster can most easily make money in TGP2? Honestly, I think that mod-sized (10k-100k) experienced TGP1 webmasters make the ideal TGP2 webmaster. If you can start a TGP1 with 5k traffic tomorrow, then you understand enough to be able to start a TGP2 with 5k traffic tomorrow. A 5k TGP2 is the equivalent of a 30k TGP1 $-wise, which is quite a bit more difficult to start for most webmasters than a 5k TGP2. About the bookmarkers, the answer is YES, they do. I have too many of them on my TGP1s and I am just SICK of the poor money I make with my TGP1s. Coming Soon! TGP2.COM! With involvement and support from: CCBill, Mr-Cash.com, SexHit, NoCheat.com, and Insite! What will it be? ------------------ TGP2 Bucks. $1/email. No deductions! The Neon Jungle!

01-21-2002, 09:36 AM	#15
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	Still looking to buy some traffic to jumpstart mine