Prostitution vs. Shooting a porno - GoFuckYourself.com

Paraskass · 05-05-2005, 02:19 PM

I always wondered what the difference was between paying a prostitute for sex and filming a girl you are having sex with (legally), like those point of view movies do.

I am in no way comparing porn stars, or porn girls to prostitutes, but what makes a girl having sex in front of a camera legal if she signs a contract and not a prostitute? Is it bearly the fact that she is signing a contract?

Could a prostitute set up a home business where she legally films herself having sex with regular joes while never publishing the content?

Dirty Dane · 05-05-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

Could a prostitute set up a home business where she legally films herself having sex with regular joes while never publishing the content?

Good question.

maja · 05-05-2005, 02:29 PM

the difference is paying taxes or not paying taxes. I'm sure if the gov't can have a way of tracking & controlling how many clients, money, etc a prostitute or escort brings in then it would be legal.

Paraskass · 05-05-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by maja

the difference is paying taxes or not paying taxes. I'm sure if the gov't can have a way of tracking & controlling how many clients, money, etc a prostitute or escort brings in then it would be legal.

interesting point. So according to you, if a prostitute had her clients sign release forms and provide ID while she declared income, it would be legal for her to be a prostitute?

eroswebmaster · 05-05-2005, 02:32 PM

I highly doubt "johns" would want some prostitute filming them having sex along with making copies of 2 id's etc to make it all seem legit.

Paraskass · 05-05-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

I highly doubt "johns" would want some prostitute filming them having sex along with making copies of 2 id's etc to make it all seem legit.

I agree, but I am sure many desperate lonely guys would rather fuck a girl legally than risk getting caught by the cops. No?

nobody would know.

Huggles · 05-05-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

I am in no way comparing porn stars, or porn girls to prostitutes

Same thing man, trading sex for money

andrej_NDC · 05-05-2005, 02:40 PM

porn stars are prostitutes, they just think otherwise

tranza · 05-05-2005, 02:44 PM

I agree with Huggles and andrej_NDC on this one...

BigRod · 05-05-2005, 02:47 PM

I have to agree money for sex is what it is!

Tempest · 05-05-2005, 02:50 PM

The question is.. what is the legal difference..

Not what is the opinion of all the sheep...

but what would one expect from this place..

psili · 05-05-2005, 02:50 PM

Somebody else said this already in the same thread a while ago.

The difference is that porno is protected under the first admendment as "art" - or something to that effect.

Bomber8888 · 05-05-2005, 02:51 PM

Prostitution is prostitution .. sex for money!

Rorschach · 05-05-2005, 02:51 PM

why not compare pornstars to prostitutes? they both suck dick and take it in the ass for money... and many pornstars whore themselves out on the side as well.

billywatson · 05-05-2005, 02:55 PM

The correct answer, gang, is Miller vs. The State of California, and I think it was 1972. Also, I'd like to add that it's really pandering we're talking about here, not prostitution...unless you're shooting a POV.

Miller argued, basically, that since there was a plot to Deep Throat, it was, in a way, legitmate art...sex just happened to be in it. The judge agreed, and, in fact, this is the only place in the country this thing has been tested...that's part of the reason Porn Valley became Porn Valley.

Pandering is paying people to have sex in front of you, whether or not there's a camera in the room. In my state it's a Class 6 felony...SO, the moral of the story is...make your porn have a "plot" no matter how silly it may be!

BigRod · 05-05-2005, 02:56 PM

In Canada the ONLY difference is, if you want to film it you have to have ID!

thumbsdepot · 05-05-2005, 03:02 PM

Here is the California law about prostitution, some states may be different.

CALIFORNIA CODES
PENAL CODE
SECTION 653.20-653.28
653.20. For purposes of this chapter, the following definitions
apply:
(a) "Commit prostitution" means to engage in sexual conduct for
money or other consideration, but does not include sexual conduct
engaged in as a part of any stage performance, play, or other
entertainment open to the public.
-------------------------------------------------------

My understanding is if you pay someone to have sex with you and film it, then distribute it then that would be legal. But if you pay someone for sex and don't film it or let others watch that that would be illegal.

Contact your lawyer to make sure.

Huggles · 05-05-2005, 03:04 PM

Before anyone bitches, nobody said there was anything wrong with prostitution.

Like I have said before though, nobody wants their mom or daughter to do porno though. Other people's moms and daughters? sure!

BigRod · 05-05-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

Before anyone bitches, nobody said there was anything wrong with prostitution.

Indeed, we aren't saying there is anything wrong with it infact some of us making a lucritive living from it.

azguy · 05-05-2005, 03:10 PM

Then some chick needs to open up a website calling guys to come down and fuck her (and even get paid a little) on camera for it to be posted online.

GoldenPalace.com would be her first client

Dirty Dane · 05-05-2005, 03:21 PM

So, if it is the same, what is the difference between a pimp and a.. eh webpimp? If you sort out the legal issues, I mean.

wtfent · 05-05-2005, 03:27 PM

I think prostitutes do more drugs.

andrej_NDC · 05-05-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wtfent

I think prostitutes do more drugs.

there are cheap prostitutes who will fuck anyone and also cheap actors who will fuck anyone...the same chance of taking drugs
but also there are damn expensive gorgeous looking prostitutes who wont fuck anyone and also expensive porn-stars who wont fuck anyone, they mostly live a normal life
and of course, something between

Peter Romero · 05-05-2005, 03:48 PM

My lawyer clears any new project that I do. Ask him.

Otherwise... see me break em in @ www.povporn.com and see sig if you want to whore me out. See my POV??? I was a porn star before I became a POV Porn Star... are you gonna arrest me for holding a camera?

MandyBlake · 05-05-2005, 04:08 PM

the difference i see is that there is content being produced in one instance and none in the other.
other than that, there's not much difference.
i can totally see how porn stars could easily escort to make extra bank.

billywatson · 05-05-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyBlake

the difference i see is that there is content being produced in one instance and none in the other.
other than that, there's not much difference.
i can totally see how porn stars could easily escort to make extra bank.

they do, and it's called "privates".

Paraskass · 05-05-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

The correct answer, gang, is Miller vs. The State of California, and I think it was 1972. Also, I'd like to add that it's really pandering we're talking about here, not prostitution...unless you're shooting a POV.

Miller argued, basically, that since there was a plot to Deep Throat, it was, in a way, legitmate art...sex just happened to be in it. The judge agreed, and, in fact, this is the only place in the country this thing has been tested...that's part of the reason Porn Valley became Porn Valley.

Pandering is paying people to have sex in front of you, whether or not there's a camera in the room. In my state it's a Class 6 felony...SO, the moral of the story is...make your porn have a "plot" no matter how silly it may be!

interesting

Paraskass · 05-05-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by POV Porn guy

My lawyer clears any new project that I do. Ask him.

Otherwise... see me break em in @ www.povporn.com and see sig if you want to whore me out. See my POV??? I was a porn star before I became a POV Porn Star... are you gonna arrest me for holding a camera?

that is hot

do you jack off to yourself fucking girls?

Peter Romero · 05-05-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

that is hot

do you jack off to yourself fucking girls?

Uhm... DUH!!! YEAH!!!

DWB · 05-05-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by POV Porn guy

My lawyer clears any new project that I do. Ask him.

Otherwise... see me break em in @ www.povporn.com and see sig if you want to whore me out. See my POV??? I was a porn star before I became a POV Porn Star... are you gonna arrest me for holding a camera?

Great shot Roy! Very hot man...

adultguus · 05-06-2005, 12:49 AM

In The Netherlands prostitutes are legal and they indeed do declare taxes.

Chelsea Romero · 05-06-2005, 12:53 AM

Umm I think this is where I step in and say... Yah its VERY HOT!

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2005, 12:56 AM

you have a small penis

Chelsea Romero · 05-06-2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysin

you have a small penis

Post your dick in a HOT 18 y/old Blonde. Then we'll start a site about you.

Xplicit · 05-06-2005, 01:21 AM

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I am in no way comparing porn stars, or porn girls to prostitutes.

LOL well, they are.

Drake · 05-06-2005, 01:26 AM

The only difference is the paper work required

Chelsea Romero · 05-06-2005, 01:29 AM

Hmmm ... I never thought that going to a Hustler Set with professional Photographers and Videographers was like going to some abandoned Motel 6 and meeting some random guy who may have the fate of my last breath in my life. In PORN who is the "Jhon"? Cause im not fucking the "Jhon" Im fucking another hired/Paid talent to make a MOVIE. YOU GET PAID FOR ALL work in different walks of life. Why does everyone take sex so seriously!

SmokeyTheBear · 05-06-2005, 01:42 AM

There is a company in vancouver canada that basically works the way you suggested except one step better its free..

They basically supply a "fantasy" .a man can simply call them up with a fantasy , they supply the woman/man/? , and you supply yourself. You get to fulfill your fantasy and they pay for the woman/man/etc and get to film it..

andrej_NDC · 05-06-2005, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by adultguus

In The Netherlands prostitutes are legal and they indeed do declare taxes.

its legal almost everywhere

opflix · 05-06-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chelsea Romero

.... Why does everyone take sex so seriously!

you live in america and you have to ask this question?

...

NaughtyRob · 05-06-2005, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chelsea Romero

Post your dick in a HOT 18 y/old Blonde. Then we'll start a site about you.

Well said.

dcortez · 05-06-2005, 09:59 AM

This is a classic question and there is a lot of history to it - rooted in the early days of adult content production (before internet).

In short, the main difference between the two is that adult content production is oriented to the production of erotic material - a tangible end-result of the interaction, whereas prostitution does not.

This is one of the main tests to separate the two.

It's moot in Canada, in that prostitution is legal here as well (you just can't discuss or make deals about it in public or private - that is solicitation which is against the law).

-Dino

Huggles · 05-06-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chelsea Romero

Hmmm ... I never thought that going to a Hustler Set with professional Photographers and Videographers was like going to some abandoned Motel 6 and meeting some random guy who may have the fate of my last breath in my life. In PORN who is the "Jhon"? Cause im not fucking the "Jhon" Im fucking another hired/Paid talent to make a MOVIE. YOU GET PAID FOR ALL work in different walks of life. Why does everyone take sex so seriously!

Uhh

I wouldn't want to date a skanky content chick that's for sure. "Honey how was your day at work?"

"Oh great babe, I sucked 4 dicks and got anally pounded by an 18 inch black dong"

Or worse, have a mother / sister / daughter in porn. Maybe you could handle that. As for myself, I would not want that.

Yeah, I know I'm in the wrong business to have standards and values.

Adultnet · 05-06-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRod

In Canada the ONLY difference is, if you want to film it you have to have ID!

he he he

Chelsea Romero · 05-06-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

Uhh

I wouldn't want to date a skanky content chick that's for sure. "Honey how was your day at work?"

"Oh great babe, I sucked 4 dicks and got anally pounded by an 18 inch black dong"

Or worse, have a mother / sister / daughter in porn. Maybe you could handle that. As for myself, I would not want that.

Yeah, I know I'm in the wrong business to have standards and values.

Umm Im not skanky if thats what you are implying. I never sucked 4 dicks, and had 18 inch black cock up my ass. You are right you are in the wrong business to have standards cause some girl whos not in the business might be thinking the same thing about you.

Chelsea Romero · 05-06-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by opflix

you live in america and you have to ask this question?

...

Who cares where we live, its a joke that everyone takes it so personal, especially guys "girls are skanky" cause they do PORN. GET OVER IT. We are all big boys and girls, sex is fun and who cares with how many cocks or how many people, its fun, let it go.

bringer · 05-06-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by opflix

you live in america and you have to ask this question?

...

prostitution is illegal in america?

Peter Romero · 05-06-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

Uhh
Yeah, I know I'm in the wrong business to have standards and values.

Well... you are definetely not in any sort of place to judge anyone for doing porn as you make a living with porn. Nor is anyone else for that matter, there are discrepancies with every job. But you doing it or anyone else on GFY/in porn is total lunacy.

RRRED · 05-06-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

There is a company in vancouver canada that basically works the way you suggested except one step better its free..

They basically supply a "fantasy" .a man can simply call them up with a fantasy , they supply the woman/man/? , and you supply yourself. You get to fulfill your fantasy and they pay for the woman/man/etc and get to film it..

Are you talking about my girl Jackie?? God I miss her...

POV Porn guy... I really can't handle that I just saw your penis...

Huggles · 05-06-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chelsea Romero

Who cares where we live, its a joke that everyone takes it so personal, especially guys "girls are skanky" cause they do PORN. GET OVER IT. We are all big boys and girls, sex is fun and who cares with how many cocks or how many people, its fun, let it go.

So you'll have sex with me then?

05-05-2005, 02:19 PM	#1
Paraskass Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: QC Posts: 5,829	Prostitution vs. Shooting a porno I always wondered what the difference was between paying a prostitute for sex and filming a girl you are having sex with (legally), like those point of view movies do. I am in no way comparing porn stars, or porn girls to prostitutes, but what makes a girl having sex in front of a camera legal if she signs a contract and not a prostitute? Is it bearly the fact that she is signing a contract? Could a prostitute set up a home business where she legally films herself having sex with regular joes while never publishing the content? __________________

05-05-2005, 02:29 PM	#3
maja Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dirty D is my human bong! Posts: 868	the difference is paying taxes or not paying taxes. I'm sure if the gov't can have a way of tracking & controlling how many clients, money, etc a prostitute or escort brings in then it would be legal. __________________ FETISH SITES PAYS ME WELL! DOES IT PAY YOU TOO? If you're in vancouver / westcoast stop by here! ~~~zombiegirl~~ I've made out with Dwreck, have you?

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eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	I highly doubt "johns" would want some prostitute filming them having sex along with making copies of 2 id's etc to make it all seem legit. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

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tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I agree with Huggles and andrej_NDC on this one... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

05-05-2005, 02:47 PM	#10
BigRod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 3,685	I have to agree money for sex is what it is! __________________ Rod Macdonald Mainstream Ad Agency Owner ICQ: 607306

05-05-2005, 02:40 PM	#8
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	porn stars are prostitutes, they just think otherwise

05-05-2005, 02:50 PM	#11
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	The question is.. what is the legal difference.. Not what is the opinion of all the sheep... but what would one expect from this place..

05-05-2005, 02:50 PM	#12
psili Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 5,526	Somebody else said this already in the same thread a while ago. The difference is that porno is protected under the first admendment as "art" - or something to that effect. __________________ Your post count means nothing.

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Bomber8888 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,444	Prostitution is prostitution .. sex for money! __________________ Icq - 403858640 bomber.jason AT gmail dot com

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Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	why not compare pornstars to prostitutes? they both suck dick and take it in the ass for money... and many pornstars whore themselves out on the side as well.

05-05-2005, 02:55 PM	#15
billywatson Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Valley o' Smut. Posts: 3,281	The correct answer, gang, is Miller vs. The State of California, and I think it was 1972. Also, I'd like to add that it's really pandering we're talking about here, not prostitution...unless you're shooting a POV. Miller argued, basically, that since there was a plot to Deep Throat, it was, in a way, legitmate art...sex just happened to be in it. The judge agreed, and, in fact, this is the only place in the country this thing has been tested...that's part of the reason Porn Valley became Porn Valley. Pandering is paying people to have sex in front of you, whether or not there's a camera in the room. In my state it's a Class 6 felony...SO, the moral of the story is...make your porn have a "plot" no matter how silly it may be! __________________ We're Fabulous! PROTECT YOUR CONTENT on Twitter I Shoot Porn.

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BigRod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 3,685	In Canada the ONLY difference is, if you want to film it you have to have ID! __________________ Rod Macdonald Mainstream Ad Agency Owner ICQ: 607306 Last edited by BigRod; 05-05-2005 at 02:58 PM..

05-05-2005, 03:02 PM	#17
thumbsdepot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 778	Here is the California law about prostitution, some states may be different. CALIFORNIA CODES PENAL CODE SECTION 653.20-653.28 653.20. For purposes of this chapter, the following definitions apply: (a) "Commit prostitution" means to engage in sexual conduct for money or other consideration, but does not include sexual conduct engaged in as a part of any stage performance, play, or other entertainment open to the public. ------------------------------------------------------- My understanding is if you pay someone to have sex with you and film it, then distribute it then that would be legal. But if you pay someone for sex and don't film it or let others watch that that would be illegal. Contact your lawyer to make sure. __________________

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Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 11,118	Before anyone bitches, nobody said there was anything wrong with prostitution. Like I have said before though, nobody wants their mom or daughter to do porno though. Other people's moms and daughters? sure! __________________ https://3-veo.com/ The best AI video maker portal.

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azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	Then some chick needs to open up a website calling guys to come down and fuck her (and even get paid a little) on camera for it to be posted online. GoldenPalace.com would be her first client

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	So, if it is the same, what is the difference between a pimp and a.. eh webpimp? If you sort out the legal issues, I mean.

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wtfent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, Cali. baby!!! Posts: 3,790	I think prostitutes do more drugs.

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MandyBlake The one and only! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 17,761	the difference i see is that there is content being produced in one instance and none in the other. other than that, there's not much difference. i can totally see how porn stars could easily escort to make extra bank. __________________ Mandy's Playhouse Her First Fat Girl If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921

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Chelsea Romero Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LA! Posts: 175	Hmmm ... I never thought that going to a Hustler Set with professional Photographers and Videographers was like going to some abandoned Motel 6 and meeting some random guy who may have the fate of my last breath in my life. In PORN who is the "Jhon"? Cause im not fucking the "Jhon" Im fucking another hired/Paid talent to make a MOVIE. YOU GET PAID FOR ALL work in different walks of life. Why does everyone take sex so seriously! __________________ ICQ#338-976-301 [email protected] http://www.povcash.com

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	There is a company in vancouver canada that basically works the way you suggested except one step better its free.. They basically supply a "fantasy" .a man can simply call them up with a fantasy , they supply the woman/man/? , and you supply yourself. You get to fulfill your fantasy and they pay for the woman/man/etc and get to film it.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

05-06-2005, 09:59 AM	#42
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	This is a classic question and there is a lot of history to it - rooted in the early days of adult content production (before internet). In short, the main difference between the two is that adult content production is oriented to the production of erotic material - a tangible end-result of the interaction, whereas prostitution does not. This is one of the main tests to separate the two. It's moot in Canada, in that prostitution is legal here as well (you just can't discuss or make deals about it in public or private - that is solicitation which is against the law). -Dino