What Sponsors DO NOT pay you on referred webmasters without you being active? - GoFuckYourself.com

notjoe · 04-09-2005, 12:39 PM

Even more importantly, what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?

StuartD · 04-09-2005, 12:39 PM

I have a few hundred sitting here and there with various programs that refuse to pay me because I never sent them any joins.

It bites.

Manowar · 04-09-2005, 12:41 PM

Perfect Gonzo don't pay unless you send sales

And StuartD, I just hit you up on ICQ.

baddog · 04-09-2005, 12:42 PM

wow, I am glad someone asked this question . . . can't wait to see the answers

The Heron · 04-09-2005, 12:46 PM

That seems pretty stupid. Some people can market to webmasters and some can market better to the end consumers...

StuartD · 04-09-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

Perfect Gonzo don't pay unless you send sales

And StuartD, I just hit you up on ICQ.

sorry, didn't have icq fired up... I'm on now

polish_aristocrat · 04-09-2005, 12:49 PM

cashring - iwantu

notjoe · 04-09-2005, 01:12 PM

Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

megatgpdotnet · 04-09-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Heron

That seems pretty stupid. Some people can market to webmasters and some can market better to the end consumers...

Yeah, I completely agree with you.

StuartD · 04-09-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

guaranteed. I won't list them all off since I have no formal list and would be going strictly by memory. But lemme just tell you this... if you're sending referals to any CCBill program but no joins, don't expect a check.

Manowar · 04-09-2005, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

cashring - iwantu

Seriously ?

notjoe · 04-09-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

guaranteed. I won't list them all off since I have no formal list and would be going strictly by memory. But lemme just tell you this... if you're sending referals to any CCBill program but no joins, don't expect a check.

VERY interesting gonna pull some links very shortly!

polish_aristocrat · 04-09-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

Seriously ?

haha yes, that's what i read in their terms

you = owned?

Michael O · 04-09-2005, 03:48 PM

I wrote PG and explained I that I have a little webmaster site and asked if I could be paid even if I didn´t send traffic. It was worth it

I tried contacting triplexcash/teenrevenue three times over the last 1½ week about the same issue but they don´t answer

I got a few referrals there and I notiched with the new version that they added to their stats you have to send sales to get paid for referrals.

Michael O · 04-09-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

cashring - iwantu

Didn´t know that one

Radiate · 04-09-2005, 03:50 PM

this is a very good question

I'm also interested to know which of the backend systems allow this to happen

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-09-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

Even more importantly, what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?

Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?

Michael O · 04-09-2005, 03:51 PM

Isn´t it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
Q: Who are my Referrals?

A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.

From the TOS:
Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.

Manowar · 04-09-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

I wrote PG and explained I that I have a little webmaster site and asked if I could be paid even if I didn´t send traffic. It was worth it

who did you contact?

Michael O · 04-09-2005, 03:53 PM

Another issue I´ve come across more than a couple of times is that I didn´t recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasn´t active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didn´t trigger a payout.

Manowar · 04-09-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Isn´t it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
Q: Who are my Referrals?

A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.

From the TOS:
Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.

that sucks.

Michael O · 04-09-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

who did you contact?

Can´t remember was long ago I used info I found on their site.

Manowar · 04-09-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Another issue I´ve come across more than a couple of times is that I didn´t recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasn´t active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didn´t trigger a payout.

yeah, happened to me before.

notjoe · 04-09-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?

ONLY a NON WEBMASTER would think that the question i asked was stupid. Get a fucking life you loser.

Manowar · 04-09-2005, 04:03 PM

anyone happen to have an icq contact for perfect gonzo?

notjoe · 04-09-2005, 04:08 PM

NATS MPA Executive Stats Affiliate program

Now that we'll have people from those companies reading this thread i think we should put the question to them.

Does your program pay commissions on webmaster referral joins even if the original webmaster isnt actively sending joins? Is that an option to enable/disable?

ravo · 04-09-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Another issue I´ve come across more than a couple of times is that I didn´t recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasn´t active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didn´t trigger a payout.

We have a similar issue with our software. Webmaster referral credits are done *after* the payout run, so if you're not sending surfer traffic, your webmaster referral payments will be delayed by one pay period.

But, you will get paid for all referrals (whether you are active or not), it's just a matter of timing.

AmateurFlix · 04-09-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Isn´t it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
Q: Who are my Referrals?

A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.

From the TOS:
Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.

WTF?!
Read the third 'testimonial' from the cashring site (it's in the affiliates section):

"Rule number one: share your secrets with your downline. My downline brings in double what I make on my own, so I end up with a FAT paycheck. And Cashring always sends it to me on time.. Gracias amigos!"

And what ever happened to their $6.50 pay per email program?

For that matter, what ever happened to the paychecks from that promo that was run last month?

polish_aristocrat · 04-10-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

WTF?!
Read the third 'testimonial' from the cashring site (it's in the affiliates section):

"Rule number one: share your secrets with your downline. My downline brings in double what I make on my own

haha, good find

brilsmurf · 04-10-2005, 03:25 AM

igot paid my 200$ from the promo

baddog · 04-10-2005, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brilsmurf

igot paid my 200$ from the promo

for a referral? and who?

Manowar · 04-10-2005, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

haha yes, that's what i read in their terms

you = owned?

digifan · 04-10-2005, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

wow, I am glad someone asked this question . . . can't wait to see the answers

Your AVS rocks... and I am not active but I am making some nice bucks with every sale my referred wms make

ModelPerfect · 04-10-2005, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by digifan

Your AVS rocks... and I am not active but I am making some nice bucks with every sale my referred wms make

And always nice to be able to rap with the owner on icq. I emailed another major program's 'support' and got nothing but form responses, if any at all. Thanks, Baddog.

Nathan · 04-10-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

NATS MPA Executive Stats Affiliate program

Now that we'll have people from those companies reading this thread i think we should put the question to them.

Does your program pay commissions on webmaster referral joins even if the original webmaster isnt actively sending joins? Is that an option to enable/disable?

notjoe, NATS will payout webmaster referrals even if the referrer has no other income from the program.

Tim · 04-10-2005, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

Likewise - I'd be very interested to find out this info too.

andrey · 04-10-2005, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?

all ccbill programs, I think.

DarkJedi · 04-10-2005, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?

he asked a very valid question.
whats your problem ?

sponsors who dont pay you on referrers if you dont send sales yourself are pretty shady. to say the least.

what does it matter if the person is sendig sale or not ? you still get benefit from the people he referred, so why hold his money ?

baddog · 04-10-2005, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

And always nice to be able to rap with the owner on icq. I emailed another major program's 'support' and got nothing but form responses, if any at all. Thanks, Baddog.

My pleasure, guess my being too lazy to write up some prepared form responses is paying off.

Mango · 04-10-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by andrey

all ccbill programs, I think.

I didn't think so...

Varius · 04-12-2005, 09:46 AM

Hey all,

I'd like to clear some confusion up about IwantU paying on referrals.

You will get paid on your referrals, even if you yourself don't earn any revenue.

In older versions, we did have that clause to protect against fraud. For example, a guy would create an account then refer himself under that to promote with, giving himself an extra 10% each month. We now run extensive anti-fraud scripts and have manual investigations instead.

So, if you are just trying to make some money off referring other webmasters, you can. If the text somewhere on the site still says otherwise, it will be found and changed very shortly

xclusive · 05-01-2005, 05:08 AM

Great question as I know i've signed up for a lot of programs and have not sent them all traffic yet but have thier webmaster referal links in webmaster resource pages I am working on

MerlinK · 05-01-2005, 06:24 PM

It does seem convenient to not pay "non-active" web masters who refer -- you can't stop sending them customers if you haven't sent any -- what's their loss (other than reputation) -- they already have the web masters you sent.

it's certainly not right.

04-09-2005, 12:39 PM	#1
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	What Sponsors DO NOT pay you on referred webmasters without you being active? Even more importantly, what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?

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StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	I have a few hundred sitting here and there with various programs that refuse to pay me because I never sent them any joins. It bites. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

04-09-2005, 12:49 PM	#7
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	cashring - iwantu __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	I wrote PG and explained I that I have a little webmaster site and asked if I could be paid even if I didn´t send traffic. It was worth it I tried contacting triplexcash/teenrevenue three times over the last 1½ week about the same issue but they don´t answer I got a few referrals there and I notiched with the new version that they added to their stats you have to send sales to get paid for referrals. __________________ Truth Teller

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Radiate Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: the center Posts: 1,454	this is a very good question I'm also interested to know which of the backend systems allow this to happen __________________ icq 199437756 - contact me if you need a solid hosting solution

04-09-2005, 12:41 PM	#3
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Perfect Gonzo don't pay unless you send sales And StuartD, I just hit you up on ICQ.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	wow, I am glad someone asked this question . . . can't wait to see the answers

04-09-2005, 12:46 PM	#5
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,495	That seems pretty stupid. Some people can market to webmasters and some can market better to the end consumers...

04-09-2005, 01:12 PM	#8
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have? There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

04-09-2005, 03:51 PM	#18
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	Isn´t it typical from the FAQ on cashring: Q: Who are my Referrals? A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others. From the TOS: Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice. __________________ Truth Teller

04-09-2005, 03:53 PM	#20
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	Another issue I´ve come across more than a couple of times is that I didn´t recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasn´t active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didn´t trigger a payout. __________________ Truth Teller

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Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	anyone happen to have an icq contact for perfect gonzo?

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notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	NATS MPA Executive Stats Affiliate program Now that we'll have people from those companies reading this thread i think we should put the question to them. Does your program pay commissions on webmaster referral joins even if the original webmaster isnt actively sending joins? Is that an option to enable/disable?

04-10-2005, 03:25 AM	#30
brilsmurf Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,405	igot paid my 200$ from the promo __________________ The Best Adult Web Hosting of 2008 - http://www.adulthosting.com Affiliate Program – http://www.sxcash.com

04-12-2005, 09:46 AM	#41
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	Hey all, I'd like to clear some confusion up about IwantU paying on referrals. You will get paid on your referrals, even if you yourself don't earn any revenue. In older versions, we did have that clause to protect against fraud. For example, a guy would create an account then refer himself under that to promote with, giving himself an extra 10% each month. We now run extensive anti-fraud scripts and have manual investigations instead. So, if you are just trying to make some money off referring other webmasters, you can. If the text somewhere on the site still says otherwise, it will be found and changed very shortly __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

05-01-2005, 05:08 AM	#42
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Great question as I know i've signed up for a lot of programs and have not sent them all traffic yet but have thier webmaster referal links in webmaster resource pages I am working on __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

05-01-2005, 06:24 PM	#43
MerlinK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 453	It does seem convenient to not pay "non-active" web masters who refer -- you can't stop sending them customers if you haven't sent any -- what's their loss (other than reputation) -- they already have the web masters you sent. it's certainly not right. __________________ I buy domain names - if you're selling a .com with traffic, please ICQ me 313-846-394