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notjoe 04-09-2005 12:39 PM

What Sponsors DO NOT pay you on referred webmasters without you being active?
 
Even more importantly, what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?

StuartD 04-09-2005 12:39 PM

I have a few hundred sitting here and there with various programs that refuse to pay me because I never sent them any joins.

It bites.

Manowar 04-09-2005 12:41 PM

Perfect Gonzo don't pay unless you send sales


And StuartD, I just hit you up on ICQ.

baddog 04-09-2005 12:42 PM

wow, I am glad someone asked this question . . . can't wait to see the answers

The Heron 04-09-2005 12:46 PM

That seems pretty stupid. Some people can market to webmasters and some can market better to the end consumers...

StuartD 04-09-2005 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar
Perfect Gonzo don't pay unless you send sales


And StuartD, I just hit you up on ICQ.

sorry, didn't have icq fired up... I'm on now :winkwink:

polish_aristocrat 04-09-2005 12:49 PM

cashring - iwantu

notjoe 04-09-2005 01:12 PM

Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

megatgpdotnet 04-09-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Heron
That seems pretty stupid. Some people can market to webmasters and some can market better to the end consumers...

Yeah, I completely agree with you.

StuartD 04-09-2005 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjoe
Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

guaranteed. I won't list them all off since I have no formal list and would be going strictly by memory. But lemme just tell you this... if you're sending referals to any CCBill program but no joins, don't expect a check.

Manowar 04-09-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
cashring - iwantu

Seriously ?

notjoe 04-09-2005 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD
guaranteed. I won't list them all off since I have no formal list and would be going strictly by memory. But lemme just tell you this... if you're sending referals to any CCBill program but no joins, don't expect a check.


VERY interesting gonna pull some links very shortly! :)

polish_aristocrat 04-09-2005 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar
Seriously ?

haha yes, that's what i read in their terms


you = owned? :error

Michael O 04-09-2005 03:48 PM

I wrote PG and explained I that I have a little webmaster site and asked if I could be paid even if I didnīt send traffic. It was worth it :winkwink:

I tried contacting triplexcash/teenrevenue three times over the last 1― week about the same issue but they donīt answer :(
I got a few referrals there and I notiched with the new version that they added to their stats you have to send sales to get paid for referrals.

Michael O 04-09-2005 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
cashring - iwantu

Didnīt know that one :(

Radiate 04-09-2005 03:50 PM

this is a very good question

I'm also interested to know which of the backend systems allow this to happen

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-09-2005 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjoe
Even more importantly, what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?


Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?

Michael O 04-09-2005 03:51 PM

Isnīt it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
Q: Who are my Referrals?

A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.


From the TOS:
Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.

Manowar 04-09-2005 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
I wrote PG and explained I that I have a little webmaster site and asked if I could be paid even if I didnīt send traffic. It was worth it :winkwink:

who did you contact?

Michael O 04-09-2005 03:53 PM

Another issue Iīve come across more than a couple of times is that I didnīt recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasnīt active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didnīt trigger a payout.

Manowar 04-09-2005 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Isnīt it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
Q: Who are my Referrals?

A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.


From the TOS:
Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.

that sucks.

Michael O 04-09-2005 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar
who did you contact?

Canīt remember was long ago I used info I found on their site.

Manowar 04-09-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Another issue Iīve come across more than a couple of times is that I didnīt recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasnīt active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didnīt trigger a payout.


yeah, happened to me before.

notjoe 04-09-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?


ONLY a NON WEBMASTER would think that the question i asked was stupid. Get a fucking life you loser.

Manowar 04-09-2005 04:03 PM

anyone happen to have an icq contact for perfect gonzo?

notjoe 04-09-2005 04:08 PM

NATS MPA Executive Stats Affiliate program

Now that we'll have people from those companies reading this thread i think we should put the question to them.

Does your program pay commissions on webmaster referral joins even if the original webmaster isnt actively sending joins? Is that an option to enable/disable?

ravo 04-09-2005 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Another issue Iīve come across more than a couple of times is that I didnīt recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasnīt active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didnīt trigger a payout.

We have a similar issue with our software. Webmaster referral credits are done *after* the payout run, so if you're not sending surfer traffic, your webmaster referral payments will be delayed by one pay period.

But, you will get paid for all referrals (whether you are active or not), it's just a matter of timing.

AmateurFlix 04-09-2005 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Isnīt it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
Q: Who are my Referrals?

A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.


From the TOS:
Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.


WTF?!
Read the third 'testimonial' from the cashring site (it's in the affiliates section):

"Rule number one: share your secrets with your downline. My downline brings in double what I make on my own, so I end up with a FAT paycheck. And Cashring always sends it to me on time.. Gracias amigos!"

And what ever happened to their $6.50 pay per email program?

For that matter, what ever happened to the paychecks from that promo that was run last month?

polish_aristocrat 04-10-2005 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
WTF?!
Read the third 'testimonial' from the cashring site (it's in the affiliates section):

"Rule number one: share your secrets with your downline. My downline brings in double what I make on my own

haha, good find :error

brilsmurf 04-10-2005 03:25 AM

igot paid my 200$ from the promo

baddog 04-10-2005 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brilsmurf
igot paid my 200$ from the promo

for a referral? and who?

Manowar 04-10-2005 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
haha yes, that's what i read in their terms


you = owned? :error

:1orglaugh

digifan 04-10-2005 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
wow, I am glad someone asked this question . . . can't wait to see the answers

Your AVS rocks... and I am not active but I am making some nice bucks with every sale my referred wms make :thumbsup

ModelPerfect 04-10-2005 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digifan
Your AVS rocks... and I am not active but I am making some nice bucks with every sale my referred wms make :thumbsup

And always nice to be able to rap with the owner on icq. I emailed another major program's 'support' and got nothing but form responses, if any at all. Thanks, Baddog.

Nathan 04-10-2005 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjoe
NATS MPA Executive Stats Affiliate program

Now that we'll have people from those companies reading this thread i think we should put the question to them.

Does your program pay commissions on webmaster referral joins even if the original webmaster isnt actively sending joins? Is that an option to enable/disable?

notjoe, NATS will payout webmaster referrals even if the referrer has no other income from the program.

Tim 04-10-2005 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjoe
Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

Likewise - I'd be very interested to find out this info too.

andrey 04-10-2005 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjoe
what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?


all ccbill programs, I think.

DarkJedi 04-10-2005 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?

he asked a very valid question.
whats your problem ?

sponsors who dont pay you on referrers if you dont send sales yourself are pretty shady. to say the least.

what does it matter if the person is sendig sale or not ? you still get benefit from the people he referred, so why hold his money ?

baddog 04-10-2005 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
And always nice to be able to rap with the owner on icq. I emailed another major program's 'support' and got nothing but form responses, if any at all. Thanks, Baddog.


My pleasure, guess my being too lazy to write up some prepared form responses is paying off. :)

Mango 04-10-2005 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrey
all ccbill programs, I think.

I didn't think so...

Varius 04-12-2005 09:46 AM

Hey all,

I'd like to clear some confusion up about IwantU paying on referrals.

You will get paid on your referrals, even if you yourself don't earn any revenue.

In older versions, we did have that clause to protect against fraud. For example, a guy would create an account then refer himself under that to promote with, giving himself an extra 10% each month. We now run extensive anti-fraud scripts and have manual investigations instead.

So, if you are just trying to make some money off referring other webmasters, you can. If the text somewhere on the site still says otherwise, it will be found and changed very shortly :)

xclusive 05-01-2005 05:08 AM

Great question as I know i've signed up for a lot of programs and have not sent them all traffic yet but have thier webmaster referal links in webmaster resource pages I am working on

MerlinK 05-01-2005 06:24 PM

It does seem convenient to not pay "non-active" web masters who refer -- you can't stop sending them customers if you haven't sent any -- what's their loss (other than reputation) -- they already have the web masters you sent.

it's certainly not right.


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