What Sponsors DO NOT pay you on referred webmasters without you being active?

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  • notjoe
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 5599

    #1

    What Sponsors DO NOT pay you on referred webmasters without you being active?

    Even more importantly, what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?
  • StuartD
    Sofa King Band
    • Jul 2002
    • 29903

    #2
    I have a few hundred sitting here and there with various programs that refuse to pay me because I never sent them any joins.

    It bites.
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    • Manowar
      jellyfish  
      • Dec 2003
      • 71528

      #3
      Perfect Gonzo don't pay unless you send sales


      And StuartD, I just hit you up on ICQ.

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      • baddog
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 107089

        #4
        wow, I am glad someone asked this question . . . can't wait to see the answers

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        • The Heron
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2001
          • 4496

          #5
          That seems pretty stupid. Some people can market to webmasters and some can market better to the end consumers...

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          • StuartD
            Sofa King Band
            • Jul 2002
            • 29903

            #6
            Originally posted by Manowar
            Perfect Gonzo don't pay unless you send sales


            And StuartD, I just hit you up on ICQ.
            sorry, didn't have icq fired up... I'm on now
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            • polish_aristocrat
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2002
              • 40377

              #7
              cashring - iwantu
              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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              • notjoe
                Confirmed User
                • May 2002
                • 5599

                #8
                Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

                There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!

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                • megatgpdotnet
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1296

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Heron
                  That seems pretty stupid. Some people can market to webmasters and some can market better to the end consumers...
                  Yeah, I completely agree with you.
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                  • StuartD
                    Sofa King Band
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 29903

                    #10
                    Originally posted by notjoe
                    Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

                    There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!
                    guaranteed. I won't list them all off since I have no formal list and would be going strictly by memory. But lemme just tell you this... if you're sending referals to any CCBill program but no joins, don't expect a check.
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                    • Manowar
                      jellyfish  
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 71528

                      #11
                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                      cashring - iwantu
                      Seriously ?

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                      • notjoe
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2002
                        • 5599

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                        guaranteed. I won't list them all off since I have no formal list and would be going strictly by memory. But lemme just tell you this... if you're sending referals to any CCBill program but no joins, don't expect a check.

                        VERY interesting gonna pull some links very shortly!

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                        • polish_aristocrat
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 40377

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Manowar
                          Seriously ?
                          haha yes, that's what i read in their terms


                          you = owned?
                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                          • Michael O
                            More Cowbell
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 10607

                            #14
                            I wrote PG and explained I that I have a little webmaster site and asked if I could be paid even if I didn´t send traffic. It was worth it

                            I tried contacting triplexcash/teenrevenue three times over the last 1½ week about the same issue but they don´t answer
                            I got a few referrals there and I notiched with the new version that they added to their stats you have to send sales to get paid for referrals.
                            Truth Teller

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                            • Michael O
                              More Cowbell
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 10607

                              #15
                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                              cashring - iwantu
                              Didn´t know that one
                              Truth Teller

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                              • Radiate
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 1454

                                #16
                                this is a very good question

                                I'm also interested to know which of the backend systems allow this to happen

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                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                  best designer on GFY
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 30307

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by notjoe
                                  Even more importantly, what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?

                                  Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?

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                                  • Michael O
                                    More Cowbell
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 10607

                                    #18
                                    Isn´t it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
                                    Q: Who are my Referrals?

                                    A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.


                                    From the TOS:
                                    Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.
                                    Truth Teller

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                                    • Manowar
                                      jellyfish  
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 71528

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                      I wrote PG and explained I that I have a little webmaster site and asked if I could be paid even if I didn´t send traffic. It was worth it
                                      who did you contact?

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                                      • Michael O
                                        More Cowbell
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 10607

                                        #20
                                        Another issue I´ve come across more than a couple of times is that I didn´t recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasn´t active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didn´t trigger a payout.
                                        Truth Teller

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                                        • Manowar
                                          jellyfish  
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 71528

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                          Isn´t it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
                                          Q: Who are my Referrals?

                                          A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.


                                          From the TOS:
                                          Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.
                                          that sucks.

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                                          • Michael O
                                            More Cowbell
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 10607

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Manowar
                                            who did you contact?
                                            Can´t remember was long ago I used info I found on their site.
                                            Truth Teller

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                                            • Manowar
                                              jellyfish  
                                              • Dec 2003
                                              • 71528

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                              Another issue I´ve come across more than a couple of times is that I didn´t recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasn´t active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didn´t trigger a payout.

                                              yeah, happened to me before.

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                                              • notjoe
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 5599

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?

                                                ONLY a NON WEBMASTER would think that the question i asked was stupid. Get a fucking life you loser.

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                                                • Manowar
                                                  jellyfish  
                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 71528

                                                  #25
                                                  anyone happen to have an icq contact for perfect gonzo?

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                                                  • notjoe
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 5599

                                                    #26
                                                    NATS MPA Executive Stats Affiliate program

                                                    Now that we'll have people from those companies reading this thread i think we should put the question to them.

                                                    Does your program pay commissions on webmaster referral joins even if the original webmaster isnt actively sending joins? Is that an option to enable/disable?

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                                                    • ravo
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 5461

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                                      Another issue I´ve come across more than a couple of times is that I didn´t recieve a payment from webmaster referrals from programs where I wasn´t active myself and when contacting them I was told that it was because the script didn´t trigger a payout.
                                                      We have a similar issue with our software. Webmaster referral credits are done *after* the payout run, so if you're not sending surfer traffic, your webmaster referral payments will be delayed by one pay period.

                                                      But, you will get paid for all referrals (whether you are active or not), it's just a matter of timing.
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                                                      • AmateurFlix
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 7762

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                                        Isn´t it typical from the FAQ on cashring:
                                                        Q: Who are my Referrals?

                                                        A: Referrals are Webmasters who signup under your Affiliate ID. You will receive a 10% commission on the revenue they generate. This is easy revenue from the work of others.


                                                        From the TOS:
                                                        Depending on the Site you are promoting you will earn 10% of referral revenue we pay to affiliates you refer to the CashRing from subscriptions sold. Note: Affiliates should continuously maintain subscription referral fees higher than affiliate referral fees in order to receive payments and a min of 30$ is required in order for a payment to be issued. The commission might change at any time and without prior notice.

                                                        WTF?!
                                                        Read the third 'testimonial' from the cashring site (it's in the affiliates section):

                                                        "Rule number one: share your secrets with your downline. My downline brings in double what I make on my own, so I end up with a FAT paycheck. And Cashring always sends it to me on time.. Gracias amigos!"

                                                        And what ever happened to their $6.50 pay per email program?

                                                        For that matter, what ever happened to the paychecks from that promo that was run last month?

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                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 40377

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by AmateurFlix
                                                          WTF?!
                                                          Read the third 'testimonial' from the cashring site (it's in the affiliates section):

                                                          "Rule number one: share your secrets with your downline. My downline brings in double what I make on my own
                                                          haha, good find
                                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                          • brilsmurf
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 3405

                                                            #30
                                                            igot paid my 200$ from the promo
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                                                            • baddog
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by brilsmurf
                                                              igot paid my 200$ from the promo
                                                              for a referral? and who?

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                                                              • Manowar
                                                                jellyfish  
                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                • 71528

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                haha yes, that's what i read in their terms


                                                                you = owned?

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                                                                • digifan
                                                                  The Profiler
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 14618

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                  wow, I am glad someone asked this question . . . can't wait to see the answers
                                                                  Your AVS rocks... and I am not active but I am making some nice bucks with every sale my referred wms make
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                                                                  • ModelPerfect
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 2862

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by digifan
                                                                    Your AVS rocks... and I am not active but I am making some nice bucks with every sale my referred wms make
                                                                    And always nice to be able to rap with the owner on icq. I emailed another major program's 'support' and got nothing but form responses, if any at all. Thanks, Baddog.
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                                                                    • Nathan
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 3108

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                      NATS MPA Executive Stats Affiliate program

                                                                      Now that we'll have people from those companies reading this thread i think we should put the question to them.

                                                                      Does your program pay commissions on webmaster referral joins even if the original webmaster isnt actively sending joins? Is that an option to enable/disable?
                                                                      notjoe, NATS will payout webmaster referrals even if the referrer has no other income from the program.
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                                                                      • Tim
                                                                        AffiliateManager for Hire
                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 19210

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                        Can you guys post links/urls/lists that you might have?

                                                                        There are probably some programs which i send WM traffic to which i'm not getting paid on!
                                                                        Likewise - I'd be very interested to find out this info too.
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                                                                        • andrey
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 6505

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                          what affiliate scripts allow you not to pay out webmaster comissions because you're not an active webmaster yourself?

                                                                          all ccbill programs, I think.

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                                                                          • DarkJedi
                                                                            No Refunds Issued.
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 28301

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                            Are you really a fucken webmaster or do you just enjoy asking dumb fucking questions all the time?
                                                                            he asked a very valid question.
                                                                            whats your problem ?

                                                                            sponsors who dont pay you on referrers if you dont send sales yourself are pretty shady. to say the least.

                                                                            what does it matter if the person is sendig sale or not ? you still get benefit from the people he referred, so why hold his money ?

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                                                                            • baddog
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 107089

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by ModelPerfect
                                                                              And always nice to be able to rap with the owner on icq. I emailed another major program's 'support' and got nothing but form responses, if any at all. Thanks, Baddog.

                                                                              My pleasure, guess my being too lazy to write up some prepared form responses is paying off.

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                                                                              • Mango
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                • 474

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by andrey
                                                                                all ccbill programs, I think.
                                                                                I didn't think so...



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                                                                                • Varius
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                  • 6890

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Hey all,

                                                                                  I'd like to clear some confusion up about IwantU paying on referrals.

                                                                                  You will get paid on your referrals, even if you yourself don't earn any revenue.

                                                                                  In older versions, we did have that clause to protect against fraud. For example, a guy would create an account then refer himself under that to promote with, giving himself an extra 10% each month. We now run extensive anti-fraud scripts and have manual investigations instead.

                                                                                  So, if you are just trying to make some money off referring other webmasters, you can. If the text somewhere on the site still says otherwise, it will be found and changed very shortly
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                                                                                  • xclusive
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                                    • 35218

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Great question as I know i've signed up for a lot of programs and have not sent them all traffic yet but have thier webmaster referal links in webmaster resource pages I am working on

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                                                                                    • MerlinK
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 453

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      It does seem convenient to not pay "non-active" web masters who refer -- you can't stop sending them customers if you haven't sent any -- what's their loss (other than reputation) -- they already have the web masters you sent.

                                                                                      it's certainly not right.
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