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hydro · 05-01-2005, 01:35 PM

50 broken condoms

woj · 05-01-2005, 01:35 PM

Paraskass · 05-01-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Go fuck some more trannies idiot. Either make a point or stop with your idiot insults.

i did, just above my comment.

Alex · 05-01-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

i did, just above my comment.

Make a point about what i said. This is a debate. I make an arguement now prove to me that what i said is stupid/wrong. Dont just insult me.

bringer · 05-01-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

you sir are wrong.
there is nothing wrong with 13 year olds having sex. It is going to happen no matter what.

It was happenning 150 years ago, and 1000 years ago.
Do arranged marriages tell you anything? 13-14-15 year old girls beeing married and starting families earlier in the century when people we're even more religious.

Wake the fuck up.

"its going to happen no matter what" makes it ok? it happened 150 years ago so its ok? lets bring back slavery if thats the case... starting with you
didnt "arranged marriages" happen between 13-15 year old girls and 25-30 year old men? thats ok too? give me a break. i cant believe you see no problem with 13 year olds having sex. you're probably have no problem looking at 13 year old "art" aswell. you need to wake the fuck up.

uno · 05-01-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

both are affective and both have flaws. theres education about drinking and drugs yet kids still do them. if the parents were doing their job they'd have better control over their kids actions. parents today are more worried about tonights episode of survivor then their children. thats why kids today are 14 and 350 lbs from eating mcdonalds for breakfast and dinner each day because mommy wants to watch tv instead of prepare food. theres more to it then just telling them something and hope they listen.

Have you seen the crap they try to pass off as information about drugs and alcohol? It's in the same realm as abstinance teachings. They try to scare the shit out of kids with lies, misinformation and misrepresentations. No fucking wonder no kid believes anything adults tell them and make shitty decisions. They can't possibly make an informed decision after these processes.

uno · 05-01-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Wow how does it feel to not only be an idiot but to be ignorant.

Weed = Drug
A drug is any substance that alters the way your body works for good or bad.

Did I say that weed wasn't a drug? Every time you've tried to argue some dumbass point with me you've realized you had shoved your foot in your mouth. Well you have again. Here is what you said:

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Originally Posted by Alex
Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them

Do you realize how stupid it is.

I said even shitty weed wouldn't kill their children.

bringer · 05-01-2005, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Have you seen the crap they try to pass off as information about drugs and alcohol? It's in the same realm as abstinance teachings. They try to scare the shit out of kids with lies, misinformation and misrepresentations. No fucking wonder no kid believes anything adults tell them and make shitty decisions. They can't possibly make an informed decision after these processes.

what would you recommend then? pass out free samples to all the kids so they can experience it themselves? id rather have them taught drinking and doing coke can kill you then its a wonder ride that can be enjoyed by all.

uno · 05-01-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

what would you recommend then? pass out free samples to all the kids so they can experience it themselves? id rather have them taught drinking and doing coke can kill you then its a wonder ride that can be enjoyed by all.

Absolutely not. Where would you possibly get an idea of such an extreme? Inform kids with honest information. Tell them about the negative consequences, tell them about the positives. You can give information to them in an unbiased manner. Scare tactics don't work. They never have. Kid's (generally) are not dumb. They can see through bullshit, maybe not at first, but they will. They will see that they were lied to. They will see that weed will not kill them or even ruin their lives. If you'd rather raise your kids lying to them in order to scare them to death to keep them in line then I feel bad for your kids.

Missy · 05-01-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier

No, but you can blame the dumbass parents who decided to close their eyes and have faith in abstinence.

Several of you seem to be blaming the parents, but I noticed that the article states:

"Florida's department of children and families intervened and took the matter to court, arguing the teenager, who is under the care of the state..."

Doesn't that mean that she doesn't have any parental supervision? If so, that would explain a lot.

bringer · 05-01-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy

Several of you seem to be blaming the parents, but I noticed that the article states:

"Florida's department of children and families intervened and took the matter to court, arguing the teenager, who is under the care of the state..."

Doesn't that mean that she doesn't have any parental supervision? If so, that would explain a lot.

lets pay more in taxes to support these people who are the result of irresponsible acts!

DWB · 05-01-2005, 05:15 PM

Wow... that is fucked. She lacks the maturity to have an abortion but has the maturity to be a motherr? WTF?

DWB · 05-01-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hydro

50 broken condoms

Though I should not laugh at that, I will...

BradM · 05-01-2005, 05:17 PM

Why not shoot her? It will save us all a lot of tax money when she decides to get pregnant 4 more times in the next 4 years.

eroswebmaster · 05-01-2005, 05:17 PM

I am pro choice....HOWEVER we're talking about a child...and yeah you can put up all the BS arguments about how she might not be able to talk to her parents etc...but the simple fact is she still is a child.
She could not go and order selective surgery on her own.
Hell she can't even see an R-Rated movie..but she should be allowed the choice to terminate a pregnancy?
Ridiculous.
Now...once again HOWEVER since she is a ward of the state she should be pointed a guardian ad-litem...and then maybe put her through a series of counseling sessions where the pros and cons can be discussed rationally and then let her make her choice and the guardian ad -litem can help her pursue that choice.

eroswebmaster · 05-01-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

what would you recommend then? pass out free samples to all the kids so they can experience it themselves? id rather have them taught drinking and doing coke can kill you then its a wonder ride that can be enjoyed by all.

I think what he's getting at and I can agree is that when the scare tactics are exaggerated and someone finds out a puff on a joint isn't going to kill you the trust factor is lost between the child and parent.

Of course coke can kill you..but parents shouldn't lump all drugs under the "can kill you" flag.

Be honest about what can happen, where taking those dangerous roads can lead.

detoxed · 05-01-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

that doesnt work either. abortions should be legal but regulated. i dont think jane doe should be able to get 10+ a year because she'd rather not protect herself, the whole time possibly spreading disease.

Umm I really doubt after 10+ abortions a year she'd still be able to get pregnant

After Shock Media · 05-01-2005, 05:25 PM

Hmm since she was a ward of the court i.e. an orphan, foster kid, juvy, ect. Then would the state/court also be responsible for lack of supervision and allowing a 13 year old to engage in sexual acts?

The abortion element is clear cut, just like in the Shiavo case. The courts have over stepped their boundries and should get slapped down immediatly before it becomes to late for this teenager to have an abortion.

This does not matter if you think abortions should or should not be legal, or for what reasons and so on. This is again about a present law that should be followed, end of story. Though we do know it will get very political unless by some off chance the republicans have learned their lesson from last time.

Alex · 05-01-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Did I say that weed wasn't a drug? Every time you've tried to argue some dumbass point with me you've realized you had shoved your foot in your mouth. Well you have again. Here is what you said:

I said even shitty weed wouldn't kill their children.

Stop digging yourself into a bigger ditch.

Dumbass. Here is what you said

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Originally Posted by uno

Yes, that is tremendously stupid as even shitty pot wouldn't harm them.

Now can you honestly say that pot/weed is harmless? Huh idiot? Can ya?

bhutocracy · 05-01-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Stop digging yourself into a bigger ditch.

Dumbass. Here is what you said

Now can you honestly say that pot/weed is harmless? Huh idiot? Can ya?

I wouldn't be calling anyone dumb after saying this :

"Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them"

You've already voted yourself off rational argument island.

uno · 05-01-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

I think what he's getting at and I can agree is that when the scare tactics are exaggerated and someone finds out a puff on a joint isn't going to kill you the trust factor is lost between the child and parent.

Of course coke can kill you..but parents shouldn't lump all drugs under the "can kill you" flag.

Be honest about what can happen, where taking those dangerous roads can lead.

Absolutely.

uno · 05-01-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Stop digging yourself into a bigger ditch.

Dumbass. Here is what you said

Now can you honestly say that pot/weed is harmless? Huh idiot? Can ya?

As far as causing physical harm and more to the point your quote that it 'will kill them' absofuckinglutely. Can pot harm someone to the point of killing them? no. I still have no clue where you got that I had said that pot isnt a drug. I'll take your apology anytime you want to give it.

uno · 05-01-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy

I wouldn't be calling anyone dumb after saying this :

"Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them"

You've already voted yourself off rational argument island.

I'm reasonably certain that arguing is going to be an excersize in futility. What was this guy's nick before he changed it a month or 2 ago?

After Shock Media · 05-01-2005, 05:52 PM

Why has this thread turned from abortion to weed?

uno · 05-01-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

Why has this thread turned from abortion to weed?

Tangents are fun!

cambaby · 05-01-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Giorgio_Xo

Florida law is very clear. The girl doesn't need anyone's permission to request and receive an abortion. This is the same exact agency that interfered with the Schiavo case.

Neo-con christians complain about activist judges? The most anti-Americans are the fundamentalists that want to turn back 200+ years of legal and social progress. These are the same exact people that were lynching black people, tarring Catholics, and baiting Jews 40 years ago. No difference. Same people, same churchs, same evil... the only thing different is that the KKK is now called the Council for American Values.

So the child is yours then?

bhutocracy · 05-01-2005, 06:14 PM

i thought neo-cons were against higher taxes. This girl is a ward of the state, it's taxpayers that are going to pay to raise this baby.

bhutocracy · 05-01-2005, 06:19 PM

the baby in 15 years:

"So mom, it took the florida state to intervene to stop you aborting me"

can you feel the love? what a great environment to be growing up in, an irresponsible underage ward of the state mother that didn't want you..

12clicks · 05-01-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Giorgio_Xo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4500245.stm

I find it funny that a judge ruled she was incapable of making her own decision, but didn't take into consideration whether she would be a capable mother! Bow down to God.

A pregnant 13-year-old girl in Florida has been told she cannot have an abortion because she lacks the maturity to make such a decision.
A state court granted an injunction which prevents the girl from terminating her pregnancy.

She is three months pregnant and had planned to have an abortion on Tuesday of this week.

The American Civil Liberties Union says it will launch an urgent appeal against the ruling.

'Too young to choose'

Florida's department of children and families intervened and took the matter to court, arguing the teenager, who is under the care of the state, is too young and immature to make an informed medical decision. Judge Ronald Alvarez in Palm Beach accepted that argument and has granted a temporary injunction and psychological evaluation, which effectively blocks her from terminating the pregnancy.

It is a case which, once again, plays into the heated and divisive debate about abortion in America.

The judge's ruling comes in spite of Florida state law which specifically does not require a minor to seek parental consent before an abortion.

The American Civil Liberties Union 's executive director in Florida, Howard Simon, said forcing a 13-year-old to carry on an unwanted pregnancy to term, against her wishes, is not only illegal and unconstitutional, it is cruel.

once you mature you'll understand that a 13yr old does what it's parents think is best not what some asshole from the aclu thinks is best.

jigg · 05-01-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

why the fuck is a 13yearold 3 months pregnant?

she ran away while in the custody of the children and family dept of Florida

dalila · 05-01-2005, 07:10 PM

Just wonder what is more dangerous for 13yo girl to make abortion or to give birth to a child?

After Shock Media · 05-01-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

once you mature you'll understand that a 13yr old does what it's parents think is best not what some asshole from the aclu thinks is best.

Assuming the law required a minor to have approval, in this instance it does not so even if she had parents they could not prevent her.
Do not blame the ACLU blame the asshole who ignored state law.

Alex · 05-01-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy

I wouldn't be calling anyone dumb after saying this :

"Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them"

You've already voted yourself off rational argument island.

You only read half my post. I said that thinking in the way i just gave is a stupid act.

But its okay. You made a mistake, but im gald you agree with me.

Alex · 05-01-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

As far as causing physical harm and more to the point your quote that it 'will kill them' absofuckinglutely. Can pot harm someone to the point of killing them? no. I still have no clue where you got that I had said that pot isnt a drug. I'll take your apology anytime you want to give it.

Lets meet half way. Different people's bodies react differently to different drugs.
Will taking pot kill someone, probably not. But is it possible? Yes.

uno · 05-01-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Lets meet half way. Different people's bodies react differently to different drugs.
Will taking pot kill someone, probably not. But is it possible? Yes.

No. Find me one case where trying marijuana once caused the death of anyone ever anywhere. Will it kill someone? NO. I don't care how sensitive you are to tetrahydrocannabinoids (THC). It's impossible to OD on it without totally extraordinary and artificial means beyond belief. There is no halfway.

uno · 05-01-2005, 11:00 PM

The Drug Awareness Warning Network Annual Report, published by the US federal government contains a statistical compilation of all drug deaths which occur in the United States. According to this report, there has never been a death recorded from the use of marijuana by natural causes. Unlike opiates, barbiturates or amphetamines, there seems to be little risk from the use of large amounts of marijuana. When a person smokes too much they feel very tired and lie down. When people swallow large amounts of hashish, occasionally they get sick to their stomach.

http://www.drug-overdose.com/marijuana.htm

The info is also readily verfiable through many many other sources. Have yourself a field day.

Radical Rick · 05-01-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

Hmm since she was a ward of the court i.e. an orphan, foster kid, juvy, ect. Then would the state/court also be responsible for lack of supervision and allowing a 13 year old to engage in sexual acts?

The abortion element is clear cut, just like in the Shiavo case. The courts have over stepped their boundries and should get slapped down immediatly before it becomes to late for this teenager to have an abortion.

This does not matter if you think abortions should or should not be legal, or for what reasons and so on. This is again about a present law that should be followed, end of story. Though we do know it will get very political unless by some off chance the republicans have learned their lesson from last time.

Right on!!! I hate it when the courts overstep their boundries.

kane · 05-02-2005, 12:44 AM

bottom line:

kids will have sex no matter what they are taught in school or what thier parents say. It's simple biology. The other day on CNN they had a story about this group of hardcore conservative chirstians in a peticular church and thier kids signed a contract with thier parents and the church promising that they would not have sex until marrige. Only about 15% of them actually make it. So here are people that belive in god, listen to thier parents and thier church and in the end biology wins. . . in the end biology always wins. look no further than many afican nations. Here is a place where AIDS is running rampant in epidemic numbers and every day people are dying from starvation, and yet people continue to have sex and make more babies and spread more disease.

The only real solution is, pretty much what Alex has said, You have to teach both options. Not just teach it to them but drill it into thier heads. When I was in 6th grade we had to watch this anti-drug movie ( these days they would never show it because it is way too un-pc) in it the movie showed a guy coming down off herion and he was convulsing, naked, sweaty and shitting all over the place. And I remeber thinking that I never want that to be me. They need to show these kids exactly what STD's can and will do them. They have to show them exactly what having a kid means as well as what having an abortion means. They should teach them that should wait to have sex until they are ready and are with the person they want to be with and if they have sex they should use protection. Make the protection availible.

fuck what the community thinks. Fuck those that think providing condoms will encourage kids to sex. Kids do not need encouragment. In the end biology will win, the best we can do is help the survive it.

bhutocracy · 05-02-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

You only read half my post. I said that thinking in the way i just gave is a stupid act.

But its okay. You made a mistake, but im gald you agree with me.

No, you either created a ridiculous strawman, or you were very badly making your point. You were trying to say the idea of permissiveness to counter the problem is stupid. Your examples didn't have to be really ignorant of the reality to make the point they just had to be really permissive.

bhutocracy · 05-02-2005, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

But is it possible? Yes.

NO. There hasn't been one recorded case. Peanut butter and touching your tongue on 9 volt batteries kills infinately (because there are no deaths) more people.

Pot however certainly isn't good for you and shouldn't be encouraged in anything more than occasional doses.

I think this proves you weren't just making a point when you ignorantly said weed could kill, you really thought it could.

bhutocracy · 05-02-2005, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

bottom line:

kids will have sex no matter what they are taught in school or what thier parents say. It's simple biology. The other day on CNN they had a story about this group of hardcore conservative chirstians in a peticular church and thier kids signed a contract with thier parents and the church promising that they would not have sex until marrige. Only about 15% of them actually make it. So here are people that belive in god, listen to thier parents and thier church and in the end biology wins. . . in the end biology always wins. look no further than many afican nations. Here is a place where AIDS is running rampant in epidemic numbers and every day people are dying from starvation, and yet people continue to have sex and make more babies and spread more disease.

The only real solution is, pretty much what Alex has said, You have to teach both options. Not just teach it to them but drill it into thier heads. When I was in 6th grade we had to watch this anti-drug movie ( these days they would never show it because it is way too un-pc) in it the movie showed a guy coming down off herion and he was convulsing, naked, sweaty and shitting all over the place. And I remeber thinking that I never want that to be me. They need to show these kids exactly what STD's can and will do them. They have to show them exactly what having a kid means as well as what having an abortion means. They should teach them that should wait to have sex until they are ready and are with the person they want to be with and if they have sex they should use protection. Make the protection availible.

fuck what the community thinks. Fuck those that think providing condoms will encourage kids to sex. Kids do not need encouragment. In the end biology will win, the best we can do is help the survive it.

Exactly (except not the part about Alex, who watered his position down to include both options - when originally confronted with the argument "But they are going to do it anyway." he said "Why are you idiots living by that mentality." ignoring commonsense and readily observable reality whizzing all around him.)

uno · 05-02-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy

Exactly (except not the part about Alex, who watered his position down to include both options - when originally confronted with the argument "But they are going to do it anyway." he said "Why are you idiots living by that mentality." ignoring commonsense and readily observable reality whizzing all around him.)

Logic has no place on GFY. Ask Punkworld. I'd really appreciate it if you stopped using it against people who probably have no clue what you even mean when you say something like "strawman" or even "logical fallacy". You'll save yourself a headache and some frustration.

BradM · 05-02-2005, 02:09 AM

Guys please everyone missed my post. Just start killing really ignorant people/kids. It is going to save a ton of hasstle.
We can make an agency for this... we could call it the Gestapo.

uno · 05-02-2005, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Guys please everyone missed my post. Just start killing really ignorant people/kids. It is going to save a ton of hasstle.
We can make an agency for this... we could call it the Gestapo.

I made the suggestion earlier this evening to my sister that the gov't kills the fat people and serves them as soylent green to the military over in Iraq. We'd save tons of money on the healthcare front, We'd be a generally healthier society, we'd save lots of tax dollars on the health care, the soldiers would get nice thick rich meat at the cost of nothing, and I bet people even taste good. My brother-in-law in Iraq disagrees and doubts people would taste good.

BradM · 05-02-2005, 02:19 AM

uno: People taste great... especially fat ones.

uno · 05-02-2005, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

uno: People taste great... especially fat ones.

That is what I imagine to be true. I would totally try people. Especially if they were in a nice truffle sauce with some good red wine. Free range human...

SinisterStudios · 05-02-2005, 04:35 AM

Orgainized religion will be the downfall of this planet

God Hates Bush, ok maybe not But Americans and the world hate Bush

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eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	I am pro choice....HOWEVER we're talking about a child...and yeah you can put up all the BS arguments about how she might not be able to talk to her parents etc...but the simple fact is she still is a child. She could not go and order selective surgery on her own. Hell she can't even see an R-Rated movie..but she should be allowed the choice to terminate a pregnancy? Ridiculous. Now...once again HOWEVER since she is a ward of the state she should be pointed a guardian ad-litem...and then maybe put her through a series of counseling sessions where the pros and cons can be discussed rationally and then let her make her choice and the guardian ad -litem can help her pursue that choice. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details Last edited by eroswebmaster; 05-01-2005 at 05:19 PM..

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Wow... that is fucked. She lacks the maturity to have an abortion but has the maturity to be a motherr? WTF?

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Why not shoot her? It will save us all a lot of tax money when she decides to get pregnant 4 more times in the next 4 years.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	i thought neo-cons were against higher taxes. This girl is a ward of the state, it's taxpayers that are going to pay to raise this baby.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	the baby in 15 years: "So mom, it took the florida state to intervene to stop you aborting me" can you feel the love? what a great environment to be growing up in, an irresponsible underage ward of the state mother that didn't want you..

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dalila Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 573	Just wonder what is more dangerous for 13yo girl to make abortion or to give birth to a child?

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	bottom line: kids will have sex no matter what they are taught in school or what thier parents say. It's simple biology. The other day on CNN they had a story about this group of hardcore conservative chirstians in a peticular church and thier kids signed a contract with thier parents and the church promising that they would not have sex until marrige. Only about 15% of them actually make it. So here are people that belive in god, listen to thier parents and thier church and in the end biology wins. . . in the end biology always wins. look no further than many afican nations. Here is a place where AIDS is running rampant in epidemic numbers and every day people are dying from starvation, and yet people continue to have sex and make more babies and spread more disease. The only real solution is, pretty much what Alex has said, You have to teach both options. Not just teach it to them but drill it into thier heads. When I was in 6th grade we had to watch this anti-drug movie ( these days they would never show it because it is way too un-pc) in it the movie showed a guy coming down off herion and he was convulsing, naked, sweaty and shitting all over the place. And I remeber thinking that I never want that to be me. They need to show these kids exactly what STD's can and will do them. They have to show them exactly what having a kid means as well as what having an abortion means. They should teach them that should wait to have sex until they are ready and are with the person they want to be with and if they have sex they should use protection. Make the protection availible. fuck what the community thinks. Fuck those that think providing condoms will encourage kids to sex. Kids do not need encouragment. In the end biology will win, the best we can do is help the survive it.

05-02-2005, 02:09 AM	#93
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Guys please everyone missed my post. Just start killing really ignorant people/kids. It is going to save a ton of hasstle. We can make an agency for this... we could call it the Gestapo.

05-02-2005, 02:19 AM	#95
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	uno: People taste great... especially fat ones.

05-02-2005, 04:35 AM	#97
SinisterStudios Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Joisey Posts: 3,087	Orgainized religion will be the downfall of this planet God Hates Bush, ok maybe not But Americans and the world hate Bush __________________ SEOIP.com Multiple IP Webhosting Shared and Dedicated IP's - Multiple Class A's - From $1.99/ip Last edited by SinisterStudios; 05-02-2005 at 04:36 AM..