I read both thread and found them interesting, thanks :)

one question for you if you don't mind
what about getting non-public appraisals - ie not posting on domainstate or dnforum

you gave a list of names in the original thread but only your email, I'd like to get several opinions on a high profile domain or two but how do I know those other folks you listed want a thousand emails just for an appraisal?

Very nice post Dombuyer :thumbsup :thumbsup

I don't understand your question :)

Yes, the revenue is a bonus. This is a great name to buy regardless of its income.

great post

So very true. :winkwink: Although it is often frustrating trying to get a nice deal on a good drop, I can't get too upset with the big players. It's those fat wallet domainers that drive all the attention to the big names, and allows some of us smaller players to find very nice traffic domains for bargain basement prices.

Great thread DB and some great info you are sharing.

:)

Guys, if you contact me, please appreciate that while I like to be helpful, I have over 300 emails and almost the same icq messages to read.

I never figured me sharing some info would result in people getting pissed off at me. :1orglaugh :error

Plus, it's Sunday. Be patient.

fucking awesome thread!

very interesting thread

hahaha- times a multiple of that because we are cool :thumbsup

glad you got the jk ref - i cracked myself up with that one

you did not ask me directly but i will say pool.com is a fraudulant peice of shit service that jacks buyers after they domain jack you.

I want to bump this info. Take note noobs. :thumbsup

BTW, one more thing and I'm gonna stop bumping this thread:

Guys, the information is put forward to help you learn on your own. Please don't icq me everytime you get a brain fart. :helpme

I do have a full time job doing nothing, and I really hate when people don't understand that. :mad:

I'm off to get drunk and get intimate with Mrs. Dombuyer while furtively clutching my Real Doll.

Technically, yes, it is a threesome.

there are still many elements of captain obviousness here in this thread. if aaronm does a tutorial on producing his style of photography it won't open the door for non content shooters to jump on the bandwagon. Nice spam thread though phishing for steals :thumbsup

Evan, you're obviously not a noob. There are lots and lots of things here that will save a lot of people a lot of effort. Not obvious at all to non-domain people. You're skilled at this, right? This info isn't for you.

As far as me getting steals, it's been a collosal waste of time so far. 100's of people emailing and icq'ing and mostly being frustrated when I won't hand over the secret sauce.

I'm down for that, because I actually want to help, and I want to be known as someone that gives and doesn't just take.

But don't pretend it's a secret scheme to make bank. Whether this will help me or hurt me is an open question. Lots of people have told me they're pissed I gave away the secrets. Other people like you question my motives. Still others are quoting back my own shit in negotiations..lol...ouch.

I sure hope I make a ton of money off what I put my energy into. I certainly don't need an ego pat at this point. I'm just a stupid, super hot metrosexual who put his mistakes in the right basket. Not really that smart, just weirdly persistent.

The only thing that I could see that might come out of this would be some sort of affiliate program of "Domain Secrets" that could save people money when they go to register. But any bread I made would be a step down from what I make now.

Who knows...

oh no- this is a misunderstanding and sorry - not begrudging this thread at all. there is a potential you will sidetrack noobs who have talents elsewhere and that is not your fault though.

- i still am buying coffee domains btw if anyone has anything hot and steamy.

we have uploaded the corp site http://fiipowerbean.com and will put up the retail site at powerbeancoffee soon.

pps and recurring will be live at Essociate's ClickLogic.com soon!

Ok cool. Yea, I have a good life and good rep, and I don't want to be known as the guy who sells the snake oil. Very little to gain and much to lose.

I do know that this board has so many guys grunting away, behind the bravado, on tgp stuff that might net them bread and water and that's it, and they often have the time and energy to make some real money flipping domains. If I light a spark, maybe $5k quick profit off a sale will spur a life change, some new possibility.

Or a GREAT night with a hooker from Northridge. :1orglaugh

I certainly know that there are few professions in the world that net me as much per hour, even in the salad days, as this one.

That's one of the reasons that I encourage a small play, $500, $1000 where people's lives don't fall apart if they don't hit.

we want to slice off a bigger piece of the domain parking/free hosted pie and hopefully we can increase your returns in the near future. catch up with you soon!

finaly read it all,woo hoo :thumbsup

information is power.

and networking information is even better

I'd like to nominate this thread for "Most Valuable Business Thread of 2005"

DB you've outdone yourself! The info in this thread is golden, this is info that people normally pay out of the nose for from a pro or the kinda info you learn by falling down and standing up (and losing thousands doing it).

I hate to say it but I'll have to e-mail you too, don't worry though I won't waste your time and I'm very patient :)

good read DomBuyer... i'm not in the domain biz, but would say everything you wrote here is logical thinking that everyone getting into this biz should be able to figure out in the first 2 days, no secrets revealed imho.

I've got a question too - what would the experts here value domains like:

mp3.com, date.com, love.com, games.com, realestate.com, music.com ?

I don't want this to turn into a domain valuation thread--they're are lots of those. Suffice it to say all but mp3.com I would value at $500k-$1million.

Let's try to stick to how invest in domains, not what they're worth.

well as DomBuyer said in the first post
if you get offer from him or anyone else
email us [email protected] and we will try our best to beat the offer
or feel free to email us domain offers at anytime

Good Luck everyone

Brands versus type-ins
 

Lots of feedback on this thread and there's something I really want to get over to you guys:

Any name can be branded. Amazon, Google, PussyRanch.com

Often times large companies will choose nonsensical names because they stick in people's heads, and they can be freely trademarked and branded without conflict. I did a fair amount of selling of "empty vessels" over the years--names that don't mean a thing but can be branded.

But here's the thing: If you register a name like Pussyranch.com and say to me, as people always do, "It's a great brand!!!!" that is totally different than buying a type-in domain that EVERYBODY agrees already has value.

Overture tells the truth (mostly..lol). "Generally" if Overture gives you a return, the name/phrase gets type-ins. It has instant value to buyers around the world. You don't have to GENERATE interest, which is what branding does.

Type-ins make money off language patterns already in the culture, already agreed upon. Branding people try to make you remember "Kanoodle" or "Fashizzle"

Only you and maybe the guy that buys PussyRanch.com sees value in PussyRanch.com. Lots of people will back-slap you and say "yea yea great name, man" but nobody but a few motivated pussyranch enthusiasts will ever buy that name :1orglaugh

This is a perfectly legit way to make money, but it's not easy. Yea, cost you $6.99 or whatever, but once again, it's a lottery throw. You want to buy smart and make smart money, go after type-in names.

Type-in domains are like Rolex watches: they're liquid every day of the year to lots and lots of hungry sellers. There's nothing lottery throw about them. It's only a question of who's paying the most.

I find that many webmasters and geeks never seem to get this fact: type-in names are not the same as branding any old name. They are different planets.

Nike.com had to spend a gazillion dollars getting you to go to nike.com.

Whereas people automatically type shoes.com into their browsers.

The BEST scenario is having a natural type-in name and THEN ALSO branding it, say like what KRL is trying to do with

http://www.men.com

(There ya go KRL...lol)

You get free traffic from type-ins and you generate the rest using your skills and money.

And yes, type-in traffic is STUPID in this day and age. It's really, really strange that people would bypass unbearably sophisticated search engines like Google and type "ebonygirls" into their browser bars.

But they do. And we're grateful they do--especially on the day we get paid.

God bless 'em.

:banana

Wow, get ready for a ton of crappy domains in your inbox :)
P.S. e-mail sent :1orglaugh
P.P.S. Excellent thread!

Awesome thread!

could you please talk a little bit about new registrations?
If you are unable to get insider info, but your quick on spotting upcoming trends, how does that pay?

Please note I am looking for a sponsor for this thread:

Hit me up if you are interested :pimp

Lots of you guys ask how many type-ins is enough.

Here's a list of names posted on domainstate that are getting just a few a day with prices attached:

http://new.domainstate.com/showthrea...threadid=44009

Traffic to the right of the name is based on 30 days.

Domains below are $5 each

italiabookings.com 5
sonnenreise.com 2
spectocularvisions.com 3
terra-tapestry.com 8
weight-loss-home-business.com 1
alphaboardsports.com 7
creativejewelryconcept.com 2
fastlanedistributors.com 7
webolver.com 1
resumesift.com 2
privatelabelsitecreators.com 6
icscompanies.com 1
okeaheys.com 15
superpartyportal.com 10
gemstoneagent.com 14
viagra-online-sales.com 4
koi-presents.com 8
calling-cards-usa.net 2
phocomm.com 7
lantanacapital.com 6
wineblist.com 2
eshabooba.com 13
marketdatasys.com 6
adoptionlawcenter.net 9
iso-9000-consultancy.com 1
grandmaknows.com 4
lendmoney2u.com 1
quikee.net 7
veggieway.com 7
purchase-buy-viagra-online.com 2
phiromain.com 9
oneclickhomeinfo.com 4
rsmsafelist.com 4
aditude.net 11
discovercooperstown.com 7
panzerweb.com 13
commercegang.com 14
ballonservice.net 2
vstoredrugs.com 1
sfondiwindows.com 5


Domains below are $15 each

1internet-marketing-plans.com 9
aspmarkt.net 19
planetnewbie.com 28
webalinks.com 26
kowalanet.com 28
dpichargers.com 13
permanentrecordz.com 26
fastgamers.net 11
themedicinecorner.com 11
jcmconsultinggroup.com 12
golfbz.com 13
alchymer.com 5
bandintense.com 33
bookmarkusa.com 23
bythebaygifts.com 28
highvelocitysafelists.com 16
work-from-home-kleeneze.com 18
yourmobilepa.com 14


Domains below are $25 each

greatolympians.com 27
cricketslegends.com 23
abcstartpage.com 28

Or buy all these traffic domains for $ 400

what about domains that might not get so many type-ins, but would probably get search engine traffic, for example: freshapples.com , people might not type it in, but it would show up higher in SE result (i think) when people search for "fresh apples". Are the search result matching domains worth anything these days with all the new complicated search engine ranking systems out there, or should one only go for the type-in domains?

Overture:
153 fresh apples
0 freshapples.com

i don't think domains are so important to SE's nowadays

you can have a type in name with few hundred uniques daily that gets 0 SE traffic

nice thread.

any suggestions for what serverside counter to use to get a good overview on how much traffic various domains get?

Great thread DomBuyer!

It's all the same things we've learned by playing the domain game for some years.
We did buy a lot of domains and spent quite some money to figure out all this.

So people, read and remember this!

I was not able to get on the computer for most of the weekend and just started reading last night and this morning.

Great post Dombuyer :thumbsup

Since Slavik posted this I can't help myself.

We're always looking to buy more good domains,
so please email domains AT martinpeak.com if you have anything to sell.

Great post... worth reading.

Bump for a kick-ass thread.

:thumbsup

how much i'll sponsor it
where will my sponsorship info go ?

if i have a domain that i type is sepret words in the keyword selector and get 56,then type the domain with the .com atatched and get 82 does that meen that people are typeing in the domain itself and not the kew words?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:) :thumbsup

keep up the good work bro
u know how u get a hold of me

for anyone else with domain offers [email protected]

i am already seeing evidence in my email that people are perhaps missing a part of this whole niche. a misspelled search result showing volume in overture is not necessarily a good domain.

loads of pearls but texas dreams giving away his core banana was more of a hookup :winkwink:

Very intresting read..good job DB

anyone? :helpme

i dont get it

2 questions that I don't think were touched on in here.

I have a few "my" domains. mythis or mythat type of stuff. What's the general view on those types of domains? As a whole do the "my" domains do as good, better, or worse than more generic names?

And 2nd, what about spanish language names. Is there a market for these? or is it generally better to just stick with english words?

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