Sounds more like he exploited the system, but did it well within the rules. Maybe you should of waited for definitave proof that his signup was fraud before entering "OMFG 35k ban him now" mode. All in all this seems real shady, and I wouldn't hold your breathe for their decision to be overturned iwantchixx. Just my 2 cents, not that anyone cares. ;)

crazy threadddd

He got his payout bumped to $1/click because of a 1:1 ratio with one signup?

This sounds like an oversight, or a bug in the system. If I were IWantU I would definitely not pay the $35k.

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This is what every single spammer says when they get termed for spamming. "I wasnt spamming, I was sending my traffic from <legit source 1> and <legit source 2>". Usually, the situation is that 90% of their traffic was spam, and 10% was from legit sources. That is still grounds for termination.

I might have beleived that if they didnt make up multiple excuses on why they werent paying the guy.

I agree. Its not hard to send a single legitimate signup on the last day of a period and then bombard the program with tgp traffic for the next period and clean up.

WG

Guys, if I was getting a buck a click I could find 36k clicks to send in to the program. But he sent one click and got one signup? How normal is that?

who knows.. at first he was spamming, but now he just sent one sale

maybe next he used a user id that interfered with their payment processor generating false income from chargebacks and refunds?

So last week, the affiliate sent 1 click which got 1 signup, then this week he sent 36,000 clicks which got 0 signups, is that correct? Or did his 36,000 clicks generate sales?

iwantu got quiet =/

holy smokes that's some serious traffic..tell him to hit me up.. I know a couple companies who'll take that traffic!!! ;)

if he got 0 legitimate signups the previous week, it doesn't matter. he'd get minimum payout, which is what they look like they're going to pay him.. although, he definitely was out to exploit the program. most programs would terminate him for that.

what if 2 weeks from now 500 of those uniques actually sign up? The the guy got screwed and iwantu gets paid.

total crap. I'll never send traffic to iwantu after this. I mean I understand that the circumstances are fishy but to totally flush him.....why not hold onto the payout for a while and see if any of the people he refered sign up?

I know one thing for sure. I am now on a Russian Mafia hit list somewhere for pointing this out :uhoh

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Sperminator, name 1 program who would pay for someone abusing or exploiting their payout system, which results in frauding them to the tune of $35,000+

you owe me a coke :winkwink:

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I only see $10k for the whole month? I dont get it. Thats chump change..

Am I missing something?

100 russians after Ozman!

I know, but why not put his shit on hold to see if it pans out?

Then, his payout will increase for the week after!

We did not block his account. We only reset his payout to the minimum. When his traffic will convert into paid signup, his payout will increase (for next week).

Interesting thread for sure. What a turn.

I can asure you it was not spam. I've always been known to be truthful and honnest.

You guys didn't think about that before? :1orglaugh

Pay the man his money u wankers

and then you'll drop them all because they will be fraudulant?

:)

That's precisely what happend here :)

That is correct. 36,000 clicks this week with no signup at all! (not yet anyway)

You got to be kidding me! It was your payscale and structue that IWANTU put into place. Now because you had a $35k payout the webmaster has to be penalized. I am usally in favor of sponors most of the time but i honestly think you guys put the screws to this webmaster. Because IWANTU did not think ahead and have a full proof game plan this webmaster should be paided.

Yeah, page 2.

It's legit...

I remember watching a Jeffersons episode when I was a child...George's dry cleaning competitor said in a tv commercial that if a customer brought in a certain poundage of clothes, he would clean them for free..So George brought in ALL of the clothes from his dry cleaning store and the owner had to clean every last outfit and it saved George thousands of dollars...I never forgot that episode.

It's the same thing here...He found a flaw in your logic and he should be paid.

Haha i remember that epidode. Man i am geting old :Oh crap

As I mentionned, his only signup last week turned out to be a fraud. Thus, his commission structure for this week is the minimum one. Please read my replies in this thread.

interesting thread.

many lessons to be learned in it.

I totally understand the program position . But if you make some rules, you gotta stick by it :)

35k clicks for 35k bucks ? omfg that's some good click / $ ratio there :)

Ok now that's the reason ... hey ... I'm really not hating on you right now . Because I totally understand you don't wanna pay 35k bucks for 35k clicks and zero sales . But stop bullshitting . Just tell the truth .

35k for 35 000 clicks make no sence, I agree . But your bullshit don't make any sence either . Stop changing your story back and forth and just tell people that you won't pay him a buck a click and you made a mistake making your own rules . Cauz right now you just look like a guy that is totally lost in his bullshit .

Even if his last week signup wasn't fraud, you wouldn't have paid the guy a buck a click ...

So if that one signup would of been legit you would of payed him his $35k on 35k of clicks?

LOL, see to all of those of you who rip on clickcash for closing accounts for spam, if you read here long enough most sponsors do this and most spammers get pissed and lash out at them here.

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So.. I made 1 Paid Sign Up + 1 Rebill.

And now I ask iwantu for proof of a frauduant signup