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WiredGuy 04-26-2005 05:53 PM

Oh and looks like that account is now terminated :)
WG

skillfull 04-26-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Oh and looks like that account is now terminated :)
WG

yep or they are hiding the spam

so what
who care how much money others ppl make

the interessing point is how they made it ;)

iwantu 04-26-2005 05:58 PM

Spamming affiliate!
 
The affiliate was spamming.

He has now been blocked and his revenues should no longer appear in the top100!

Thanks

Brujah 04-26-2005 06:02 PM

You were getting tons of sales, so are you denying all new sales now too or just keeping them ? :)

Richdude 04-26-2005 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
You were getting tons of sales, so are you denying all new sales now too or just keeping them ? :)

They should keep them.

Linguist 04-26-2005 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Did you come out to Morty's last Thursday? I looked around for you while we waited for a table but never saw you.
WG

Nah, was there on Monday, so decided that Thursday too would be an overkill. I also wasn't sure if you guys were going or not.

Next time! :thumbsup

Brujah 04-26-2005 06:06 PM

Give him a referrer link to signup with a sponsor that accepts all that spam and get a commission.

Damn, now where am I going to send all my AIM spam traffic ? lol

Nicky 04-26-2005 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
The affiliate was spamming.

He has now been blocked and his revenues should no longer appear in the top100!

Thanks

but the money was real money right? :winkwink:

Nicky 04-26-2005 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Give him a referrer link to signup with a sponsor that accepts all that spam and get a commission.

Damn, now where am I going to send all my AIM spam traffic ? lol

maybe your own sites?

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 06:11 PM

This is complete bullshit. I knwo the guy who sent all that traffic. Acusing him of spamming is a fucking copout. It's all clicked traffic he purchased.

SO let me get this straight. When an affiliate follows the rules to the "T" but makes too much money you close his fucking account and acuse him of spam?

nofx 04-26-2005 06:13 PM

interesting thread twist

rezdesign 04-26-2005 06:13 PM

how much did he make??

i missed this and now he's banned. :1orglaugh

poor guy.

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 06:15 PM

He was up to 35k last time I saw the top100 list. Legitimately.

Then they pulled all his revenue and acused him of spamming when he followed the rules to a "T".

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy
it looks a bit suspicious to me... maybe that's just coz he's Russian. I hope for IWU that all traffic is legit so they have a big moneymaker on their hands


The traffic is legit. They know it. They can check their logs.

This is fucking rediculous.

Kenny B! 04-26-2005 06:23 PM

Very good twist to the thread!

polish_aristocrat 04-26-2005 06:36 PM

hm, this thread turned even more interesting :uhoh

iwantu 04-26-2005 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
The traffic is legit. They know it. They can check their logs.

This is fucking rediculous.

This traffic was Pay per click traffic. The affiliate sent very little traffic and aboslutely no signup by frauding the payout scheme and by taking advantage of this week's payout.

I understand that this affiliate was your referral, however, he did not follow our terms and conditions. For any further comments or questions, please do not hesistate to contact us by ICQ or by email.

From the pay per click program:

If you have low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are taking advantage of the weekly ratio structure.

DA2 04-26-2005 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
The traffic is legit. They know it. They can check their logs.

This is fucking rediculous.

Was it purchased from web 1000? If so I want some :)

iwantu 04-26-2005 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
You were getting tons of sales, so are you denying all new sales now too or just keeping them ? :)

We got aboslutely no sales! all this was pay per click money! That has been revoked, because of fraud.

Brujah 04-26-2005 06:50 PM

ouch.. shame on you iwantchixxx ! lol

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 06:50 PM

He got sales last week. You admited it to me on ICQ.

He qualified for the $1 per click in the following period which is this period and he continued to send traffic. he then saw that he was making way more than last week so he bought some traffic and made his money. now you close him down?

How is this spamming, commiting fraud (as you called it on ICQ) and taking advantage of something?

Are you telling me that when an affiliate sends more traffic than usual once he see's his payouts raised that it's fraud, spamming and taking advantage?

I complete understand where you're comming from, change your rules to protect yourself from people making more money then. He followed the rules to a "T" and you know it.

Jace 04-26-2005 06:55 PM

wow, $35,000 made from a pay per click program? jesus fuck....fishy shit there

tungsten 04-26-2005 07:01 PM

this shit is getting interesting

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
We got aboslutely no sales! all this was pay per click money! That has been revoked, because of fraud.

You may have not gotten sales from THIS period from his traffic but he did last period which qualified him for the payout.

There was NO FRAUD!

Fuck.

I'm completely disgusted at this. Everything was done legitimately and people get treated like frauds just because they made more money than you wanted them to.

I don;t give a fuck if you made money off his 35k or not... he qualified for the amount per click legitimately and he sent more traffic legitimately then you come here calling him a fraud and a spammer.

Not impressed one bit.

I'm still waiting for this proof that he signed up himself to qualify for the $1 per click as you said in ICQ... or was it chargebacks yous aid?

Oh wait, you said both, including spamming as well, so that's three baseless acusations.

Brujah 04-26-2005 07:12 PM

IWANTU TOS:
We may, in our sole discretion, terminate or suspend your access to all or part of the Service at any time, with or without notice, for any reason, including, without limitation, breach of this Agreement.

If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure.

1:8000 $0.00001 (Minimum payout to prevent fraud)

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 07:18 PM

Yup, unfortunately they have the ball ont hat one. They deem it as "frauding" and have full discretion to switch the payout.

So basically. send lots of traffic after qualifying and they can drop teh payout if they feel like it.

nice way to do business. Funny though... that "intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure" read "taking advantage of the weekly ratio structure" earlier.

iwantu 04-26-2005 07:19 PM

Answer to iwantchixx
 
I guess this thread is only about iwantchixx, so I will reply to you.

My apologies for not being clear earlier. The affiliate did not spam, thus his account was not blocked, however, he sent one click and one signup last week. Thus, he qualified, this week for the $1 per click ratio.
However, his signup turned out to be a fraud out of a 1:1 ratio!!!!!

According to our Pay per click program:

Affiliates sending several hits from the same IP will immediately be cancelled and their payment blocked. We keep track of all IP addresses and log them for several months to prevent non-qualified repeated visitors. Payments are issued every thursday of the week

If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure.

The affiliate's revenues have been revoked and reset to the minimum payout. Because the only signup he had last week was obvisouly not a legitimate signup.

I understand that this affiliate was referred by you and I understand that you had hopes to earn his commission, however, be assured that no one is changing any rules.

If you have any further comments or questions, please do not hesistate to contact your account manager. There is no need to make a soap opera on GFY out of this :)

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
I guess this thread is only about iwantchixx, so I will reply to you.

My apologies for not being clear earlier. The affiliate did not spam, thus his account was not blocked, however, he sent one click and one signup last week. Thus, he qualified, this week for the $1 per click ratio.
However, his signup turned out to be a fraud out of a 1:1 ratio!!!!!

According to our Pay per click program:

Affiliates sending several hits from the same IP will immediately be cancelled and their payment blocked. We keep track of all IP addresses and log them for several months to prevent non-qualified repeated visitors. Payments are issued every thursday of the week

If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure.

The affiliate's revenues have been revoked and reset to the minimum payout. Because the only signup he had last week was obvisouly not a legitimate signup.

I understand that this affiliate was referred by you and I understand that you had hopes to earn his commission, however, be assured that no one is changing any rules.

If you have any further comments or questions, please do not hesistate to contact your account manager. There is no need to make a soap opera on GFY out of this :)

I'm still waiting on the proof that that's a fraud signup.

Brujah 04-26-2005 07:22 PM

iwantu, you guys may want to change that idea of paying future traffic for past traffic productivity. what if that 1 signup was legit and the person only sent 1 hit that week ? then the next week he sends 100k clicks, you owe him $100k no matter the productivity that week.

Napolean 04-26-2005 07:25 PM

You still accused the guy of outright spamming when you first shut him down... now your changing your story.

Doesnt look good.

iwantu 04-26-2005 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
iwantu, you guys may want to change that idea of paying future traffic for past traffic productivity. what if that 1 signup was legit and the person only sent 1 hit that week ? then the next week he sends 100k clicks, you owe him $100k no matter the productivity that week.

Good point.

We are going to fix that in the future by applying the ratio DAILY. So for the pay per click program only, afiliates will earn a PPC based on the day ratio.

As for other programs, they are all based on the number of signups sent.

Thanks for the comment.

Napolean 04-26-2005 07:27 PM

but just so I'm clear... the guy gets a higher payout, and you TERM him for sending MORE traffic?

what am I mising thats wrong?? cuzz that seems like common sense to me, not fraud

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 07:29 PM

That's precisely what they should have done to begin with. Instead, this guys ent lots of traffic after getting a legit signup and lost his ass on it.

Micheal can;t even keep his stories straight trying to get out of paying that 35k. I;d be scrambling to but when it coems down to it, I would pay the guy because he did everything legit.

jact 04-26-2005 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
Affiliates sending several hits from the same IP will immediately be cancelled and their payment blocked. We keep track of all IP addresses and log them for several months to prevent non-qualified repeated visitors.

So, when I look at my stats (Not for your program, in general) I generally have 30% more raw then uniques.. So basically you're reserving the right to terminate just about anyone with normal raw to unique ratios? Slick! Where do I sign?

Rorschach 04-26-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napolean
You still accused the guy of outright spamming when you first shut him down... now your changing your story.

Doesnt look good.

yup... i smell bs

rezdesign 04-26-2005 07:32 PM

Okay I have decided, pay the man. :pimp

Brujah 04-26-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
That's precisely what they should have done to begin with. Instead, this guys ent lots of traffic after getting a legit signup and lost his ass on it.

Micheal can;t even keep his stories straight trying to get out of paying that 35k. I;d be scrambling to but when it coems down to it, I would pay the guy because he did everything legit.

You have to admit that sending 1 click, and getting 1 sale in a week and then flooding the clicks after you hook that $1 per click ratio is taking advantage of the program. No program would pay out like that for someone looking for ways to abuse the program.

jact 04-26-2005 07:33 PM

So it was..

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
The affiliate was spamming.

He has now been blocked and his revenues should no longer appear in the top100!

Thanks

Or was it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
This traffic was Pay per click traffic. The affiliate sent very little traffic and aboslutely no signup by frauding the payout scheme and by taking advantage of this week's payout.

I thought it was spamming?

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
We got aboslutely no sales! all this was pay per click money! That has been revoked, because of fraud.

No wait, I thought he was blocked for spamming, and then for fraud?

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantu
If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure.

The affiliate's revenues have been revoked and reset to the minimum payout. Because the only signup he had last week was obvisouly not a legitimate signup.

Now he's just had his payout bumped?

iwantchixx 04-26-2005 07:33 PM

and for the record. I don;t care about my commision at this point. It was just gravy that was unexpected. I care more about that guy getting fucked over.

Napolean 04-26-2005 07:36 PM

bumpy bump :)


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