TotemCash full retention stats (are we the first ones to give that info?) - GoFuckYourself.com

Sexy Rex · 04-25-2005, 02:29 PM

Here are the stats of one of our affiliates for his signups begining of last year. Amounts are net (billers' fees paid) so the affiliate gets 60% of that.

From 2004-01-01 to 2004-01-31

219 initial signups, $ 4314.58

Month Transaction Amount
2004-01 7 refund $ -156.53
2004-01 7 recurring $ 156.44

2004-02 6 refund $ -114.58
2004-02 2 chargeback $ -44.16
2004-02 92 recurring $ 2021.2

2004-03 3 refund $ -66.73
2004-03 87 recurring $ 1898.48

2004-04 3 refund $ -65.49
2004-04 62 recurring $ 1361.24

2004-05 4 refund $ -87.94
2004-05 51 recurring $ 1119.53

2004-06 4 refund $ -89.8
2004-06 43 recurring $ 943.63

2004-07 3 refund $ -67.35
2004-07 2 chargeback $ -44.66
2004-07 35 recurring $ 766.52

2004-08 34 recurring $ 744.69

2004-09 28 recurring $ 613.08

2004-10 1 chargeback $ -21.83
2004-10 19 recurring $ 416.61

2004-11 1 refund $ -22.45
2004-11 13 recurring $ 284.42

2004-12 12 recurring $ 261.96

2005-01 12 recurring $ 261.96

2005-02 12 recurring $ 261.96

2005-03 1 refund $ -21.83
2005-03 11 recurring $ 240.13

2005-04 9 recurring $ 196.47

527 recurring, 32 refunds, 5 chargebacks, $ 10744.97

Total: $ 15059.55

That's $15059/219 = $68.76 net per signup * 60% = $41.26 for the affiliate. And I bet the 9 remaining ones are gonna last for another year, raising the affiliate share over $47.

Are we the first ones to let that kind of info out? What do you guys think?

Trax · 04-25-2005, 02:34 PM

What I think... the numbers displayed for a certain affiliate who seems to do good, posted on a board like gfy barely represent how the whole program is doing
just what I think I experienced in the past

pornguy · 04-25-2005, 02:34 PM

Never seen it before on a board, but I bet some have shared this info with others.

Michael O · 04-25-2005, 02:36 PM

I got a couple of webmaster referrals at totemcash and I keep earning more and more from all their rebills

Mutt · 04-25-2005, 02:36 PM

post stats for all your affiliates and it means something.

this means jack - u don't do PPS - that tells me something.

slapass · 04-25-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

What I think... the numbers displayed for a certain affiliate who seems to do good, posted on a board like gfy barely represent how the whole program is doing
just what I think I experienced in the past

They rebill great. Those numbers are close to mine but my traffic is smaller.

Dalai lama · 04-25-2005, 02:58 PM

Awesome stats

Sexy Rex · 04-25-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

post stats for all your affiliates and it means something.

this means jack - u don't do PPS - that tells me something.

Yep, that tells you I don't have to shave your ass to be able to pay $35 for free signups. Wake up!

2HousePlague · 04-25-2005, 03:03 PM

Good stuff, Richard. We need more disclosure and reporting standardization. This is a step in the right direction.

j-

Nader · 04-25-2005, 03:04 PM

Nice numbers Richard

keep it up

Sexy Rex · 04-25-2005, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

What I think... the numbers displayed for a certain affiliate who seems to do good, posted on a board like gfy barely represent how the whole program is doing
just what I think I experienced in the past

There can be differences of conversion ratios from one affiliate to another, but the retention does not vary that much. Here is another one, same period (should have thought of this one first, the numbers are better: $51 per signup for the affiliate...)

From 2004-01-01 to 2004-01-31

164 initial signups, $ 3508.31

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Rebills, refunds and chargebacks.
Month Transaction price
2004-01 8 refund $ -179.6
2004-01 2 recurring $ 44.29

2004-02 14 refund $ -304.06
2004-02 85 recurring $ 1866.32

2004-03 4 refund $ -89.18
2004-03 1 chargeback $ -21.83
2004-03 73 recurring $ 1600.63

2004-04 5 refund $ -112.25
2004-04 1 chargeback $ -21.83
2004-04 62 recurring $ 1358.11

2004-05 2 refund $ -44.9
2004-05 2 chargeback $ -43.66
2004-05 48 recurring $ 1051.86

2004-06 1 refund $ -22.45
2004-06 40 recurring $ 875.46

2004-07 2 refund $ -43.66
2004-07 37 recurring $ 808.71

2004-08 33 recurring $ 721.89

2004-09 28 recurring $ 611.74

2004-10 25 recurring $ 545.75

2004-11 20 recurring $ 436.6

2004-12 18 recurring $ 392.94

2005-01 16 recurring $ 349.28

2005-02 14 recurring $ 305.62

2005-03 12 recurring $ 261.96

2005-04 10 recurring $ 218.3
523 recurring, 36 refunds, 4 chargebacks, $ 10566.04

Total: $ 14074.35

makefuckingmoney · 04-25-2005, 03:15 PM

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Trax · 04-25-2005, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

They rebill great. Those numbers are close to mine but my traffic is smaller.

if you say so I believe it

Babagirls · 04-25-2005, 03:21 PM

my stats look nothing like that lol but then again, i only get about 1 click a day to TC

Miguel · 04-25-2005, 03:33 PM

Seems that guy just got most internet users who are crazy about windows desktop sex addons!

Sexy Rex · 04-25-2005, 03:33 PM

Another one, same period.

From 2004-01-01 to 2004-01-31

95 initial signups, $ 2008.99

Month Transaction price
2004-01 2 refund $ -44.9
2004-01 1 recurring $ 22.33

2004-02 9 refund $ -191.19
2004-02 43 recurring $ 905.46

2004-03 3 refund $ -66.11
2004-03 1 chargeback $ -28.43
2004-03 35 recurring $ 770.83

2004-04 25 recurring $ 549.48

2004-05 23 recurring $ 505.82

2004-06 20 recurring $ 440.33

2004-07 16 recurring $ 353.01

2004-08 14 recurring $ 308.72

2004-09 13 recurring $ 286.89

2004-10 2 refund $ -44.9
2004-10 12 recurring $ 265.11

2004-11 1 refund $ -22.45
2004-11 9 recurring $ 197.1

2004-12 6 recurring $ 130.98

2005-01 6 recurring $ 130.98

2005-02 2 recurring $ 43.66

2005-03 6 recurring $ 130.98

2005-04 1 recurring $ 21.83
232 recurring, 17 refunds, 1 chargebacks, $ 4665.53

Total: $ 6674.52

That's $70.25 per signup, $42 for the affiliate.

2HousePlague · 04-25-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miguel

Seems that guy just got most internet users who are crazy about windows desktop sex addons!

That sounds like a good-size market to me --

j-

VeriSexy · 04-25-2005, 04:22 PM

Nice stats

Sly · 04-25-2005, 04:28 PM

In my experience with Totem Cash, sales are difficult to come by but they retain like mad, which easily makes up for the poor sales.

justsexxx · 04-25-2005, 04:40 PM

I make 47.98 per sale with our sites according to statsremote..And rebills are still growing...(this is for my personal stats)

I do believe in the revshare model for good sites. In the long term it makes more money.(when the sites are good of course)

Sexy Rex · 04-25-2005, 05:20 PM

Thanks for the kind words and sharing your info as well.

I strongly believe that transparency pays. Which other sponsor publishes its top 100 every month (http://www.totemcash.com/free/top100.php), give full access to ALL its marketing tools without signing up (http://www.totemcash.com/free/tools.php), give free membership to all its sites (affiliates are granted free access after ONE sale) and now publishes no bullshit retention info?

edit: typo

punker barbie · 04-25-2005, 05:30 PM

its not within our stats program but here at www.XXXCash.com are happy to provide that info to any of our affiliates. i do a bi-weekly report for them upon request.

Snake Doctor · 04-25-2005, 05:54 PM

Not to burst anyone's bubble here....but if you're going to show stats like this show them program wide....not for one or two cherry picked affiliates.

Also, you charge 24.95 with no trial so your per signup value is going to be high. Most sites that have no trial can do 3 months or better average retention.....however it is much harder to acheive that initial signup.

You can't compare stats like these to stats for sites with cheap trials.

swami · 04-25-2005, 07:16 PM

I have to say I have had 100% retention so far with TotemCash.Had one sale and its recurred now for 5 months.I keep meaning to promote them more.Maybe I will now after seeing the retention is no fluke.

Fukeneh · 04-25-2005, 09:34 PM

totemcash is good by me.

for what its worth.

Sexy Rex · 04-26-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Not to burst anyone's bubble here....but if you're going to show stats like this show them program wide....not for one or two cherry picked affiliates.

Also, you charge 24.95 with no trial so your per signup value is going to be high. Most sites that have no trial can do 3 months or better average retention.....however it is much harder to acheive that initial signup.

You can't compare stats like these to stats for sites with cheap trials.

I mostly agree. Initial signup is harder to make, but with an average conversion ratio of 1/460 (on all webmasters, unique clicks / signups) this is not THAT hard. Thing is successfull affiliates either build traffic for our products (think wallpapers, freewares, sharewares, screensavers...) or add a few buttons here and there keeping their main sponsors. Those who redirect their porn traffic for a few days to test are disapointed, it's more difficult than that.

I agree I should post stats for the entire affiliates, or at least a large portion of it, and I'll post it for my TOP100 here soon.

We got over 280 models in stock (see them on http://www.hotgirlcentral.com/) and with content management the members gets 3 new ones a week.

My point was mostly saying our products retain way more than what most people think. And the only way I compare myself with sites with cheap trials is the fact I don't need to shave to keep my promisses.

04-25-2005, 02:29 PM	#1
Sexy Rex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: President/CEO - iStripper.com Posts: 1,164	TotemCash full retention stats (are we the first ones to give that info?) Here are the stats of one of our affiliates for his signups begining of last year. Amounts are net (billers' fees paid) so the affiliate gets 60% of that. From 2004-01-01 to 2004-01-31 219 initial signups, $ 4314.58 Month Transaction Amount 2004-01 7 refund $ -156.53 2004-01 7 recurring $ 156.44 2004-02 6 refund $ -114.58 2004-02 2 chargeback $ -44.16 2004-02 92 recurring $ 2021.2 2004-03 3 refund $ -66.73 2004-03 87 recurring $ 1898.48 2004-04 3 refund $ -65.49 2004-04 62 recurring $ 1361.24 2004-05 4 refund $ -87.94 2004-05 51 recurring $ 1119.53 2004-06 4 refund $ -89.8 2004-06 43 recurring $ 943.63 2004-07 3 refund $ -67.35 2004-07 2 chargeback $ -44.66 2004-07 35 recurring $ 766.52 2004-08 34 recurring $ 744.69 2004-09 28 recurring $ 613.08 2004-10 1 chargeback $ -21.83 2004-10 19 recurring $ 416.61 2004-11 1 refund $ -22.45 2004-11 13 recurring $ 284.42 2004-12 12 recurring $ 261.96 2005-01 12 recurring $ 261.96 2005-02 12 recurring $ 261.96 2005-03 1 refund $ -21.83 2005-03 11 recurring $ 240.13 2005-04 9 recurring $ 196.47 527 recurring, 32 refunds, 5 chargebacks, $ 10744.97 Total: $ 15059.55 That's $15059/219 = $68.76 net per signup * 60% = $41.26 for the affiliate. And I bet the 9 remaining ones are gonna last for another year, raising the affiliate share over $47. Are we the first ones to let that kind of info out? What do you guys think? __________________ WWW.ISTRIPPER.COM Unique Desktop Strippers since 1998, 20+ Millions users, 3000+ Girls to choose from, All UHD Exclusive Content.

04-25-2005, 02:34 PM	#3
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04-25-2005, 02:36 PM	#4
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	I got a couple of webmaster referrals at totemcash and I keep earning more and more from all their rebills __________________ Truth Teller

04-25-2005, 02:36 PM	#5
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	post stats for all your affiliates and it means something. this means jack - u don't do PPS - that tells me something. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

04-25-2005, 02:58 PM	#7
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04-25-2005, 02:34 PM	#2
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	What I think... the numbers displayed for a certain affiliate who seems to do good, posted on a board like gfy barely represent how the whole program is doing just what I think I experienced in the past

04-25-2005, 03:03 PM	#9
2HousePlague CURATOR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the attic Posts: 14,572	Good stuff, Richard. We need more disclosure and reporting standardization. This is a step in the right direction. j- __________________ tada!

04-25-2005, 03:04 PM	#10
Nader Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 5,086	Nice numbers Richard keep it up

04-25-2005, 03:15 PM	#12
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04-25-2005, 03:21 PM	#14
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04-25-2005, 03:33 PM	#15
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04-25-2005, 04:22 PM	#18
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04-25-2005, 04:28 PM	#19
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,328	In my experience with Totem Cash, sales are difficult to come by but they retain like mad, which easily makes up for the poor sales. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

04-25-2005, 04:40 PM	#20
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	I make 47.98 per sale with our sites according to statsremote..And rebills are still growing...(this is for my personal stats) I do believe in the revshare model for good sites. In the long term it makes more money.(when the sites are good of course) __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

04-25-2005, 05:20 PM	#21
Sexy Rex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: President/CEO - iStripper.com Posts: 1,164	Thanks for the kind words and sharing your info as well. I strongly believe that transparency pays. Which other sponsor publishes its top 100 every month (http://www.totemcash.com/free/top100.php), give full access to ALL its marketing tools without signing up (http://www.totemcash.com/free/tools.php), give free membership to all its sites (affiliates are granted free access after ONE sale) and now publishes no bullshit retention info? edit: typo __________________ WWW.ISTRIPPER.COM Unique Desktop Strippers since 1998, 20+ Millions users, 3000+ Girls to choose from, All UHD Exclusive Content.

04-25-2005, 05:30 PM	#22
punker barbie Meow Meow!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 10,226	its not within our stats program but here at www.XXXCash.com are happy to provide that info to any of our affiliates. i do a bi-weekly report for them upon request. __________________ Chaturbate Affiliate Support: [email protected]

04-25-2005, 05:54 PM	#23
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Not to burst anyone's bubble here....but if you're going to show stats like this show them program wide....not for one or two cherry picked affiliates. Also, you charge 24.95 with no trial so your per signup value is going to be high. Most sites that have no trial can do 3 months or better average retention.....however it is much harder to acheive that initial signup. You can't compare stats like these to stats for sites with cheap trials. __________________ sig too big

04-25-2005, 07:16 PM	#24
swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	I have to say I have had 100% retention so far with TotemCash.Had one sale and its recurred now for 5 months.I keep meaning to promote them more.Maybe I will now after seeing the retention is no fluke.

04-25-2005, 09:34 PM	#25
Fukeneh Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 1,245	totemcash is good by me. for what its worth.