How do you feel of sponsors taking your traffic and sending it to another sponsor? - GoFuckYourself.com

Quotealex · 04-21-2005, 08:35 PM

You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?

Spunky · 04-21-2005, 08:40 PM

I guess it's called part of doing business...shrugs

jonpotz · 04-21-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?

of course you feel cheated...

for instance WEGCash sends so much of your foreign traffic to a dialer it kinda sucks...but i still use them ;)

jayeff · 04-21-2005, 08:47 PM

It's skimming by another name, except that traffic redirection is something that we somehow allowed ourselves to be convinced isn't cheating...

xiando · 04-21-2005, 08:48 PM

Yeah, I feel cheated. It's almost as bad as shaving.

pornguy · 04-21-2005, 08:51 PM

There are programs that will pay you on the exits. Bit not many.

SureFire · 04-21-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?

If they are with ccbill I don't care because if the re-bills are good, I continue to send traffic. If not, I stop promoting them. The sponsors who require a 100 dollar pay out and redirect any ones traffic, I tend to stay away from them because my traffic doesn't convert beyond the minimum payout, and I feel like am charity for porn surfers. I love the sponsors who give credit to any exit program that I get credit for.

Tempest · 04-21-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?

Start your own paysites and send all your own traffic to them... Other than that, suck it up and enjoy the $35/signup payouts cause that's part of the reason why you're getting them.

foxxx · 04-21-2005, 09:06 PM

why not just cut them out of the loop and send it direct to the sponsor they are rediredting it to? ;)

04-21-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?

Alex from I Don't Have a Clue, that is why nearly every program has a no console option. If you don't like consoles being served to your traffic, send to no console tours. The $20-$25 dollar payouts on them reflect the value of the traffic w/o consoles. Want $35-$40? Then the program needs to supplement the higher payout with exit revenue.

04-21-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by foxxx

why not just cut them out of the loop and send it direct to the sponsor they are rediredting it to? ;)

Because the way an exit trade works, it'll go right back to them

04-21-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

It's skimming by another name, except that traffic redirection is something that we somehow allowed ourselves to be convinced isn't cheating...

Read my above post

Jim Neil · 04-21-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by foxxx

why not just cut them out of the loop and send it direct to the sponsor they are rediredting it to? ;)

Great idea foxxx,

Is there any way to tell which traffic is going where?
I suppose you could use proxies from different countries to see where it all goes, but that could take some time.

jim

XPays · 04-21-2005, 09:36 PM

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XPays always pays!

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Rorschach · 04-21-2005, 09:53 PM

It's the total $$$ you get from the traffic sent that matters at the end of the day...

VIPimp · 04-21-2005, 10:54 PM

At Epic our 1st exit console is all our own sites and you receive credit for sales made from it. If you dont like consoles, we have a NO Console option but your payout will be less per signup.

psyko514 · 04-21-2005, 10:57 PM

That's what no-console options are for...

If you're aware of it and yet willingly continue to send traffic, how is that skimming or cheating?

SykkBoy · 04-21-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?

why? if I sent it to a specific site and it didn't sell, do they really OWE me any revenues from exits? do you think the hun would feel cheated if you didn't share your revenues with him if he sends you traffic?

as soon as you send the surfer to a sponsor, that surfer is no longer yours...no more than if the hun sends you a surfer, it's no longer his.....

WiredGuy · 04-21-2005, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?

It the broadest sense of the word, I consider this shaving. Its hits I sent which they're being paid on and I'm not. I don't consider this fair.
WG

emthree · 04-21-2005, 11:12 PM

Pisses me the fuck off, especially when I rather pop my own exits.

austinth · 04-21-2005, 11:15 PM

not a big fan of it at all

04-21-2005, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

It the broadest sense of the word, I consider this shaving. Its hits I sent which they're being paid on and I'm not. I don't consider this fair.
WG

shaving??? When someone links to a console version tour as opposed to a console free version, generating exit revenue to facilitate the higher payout is hardly shaving

psyko514 · 04-21-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

It the broadest sense of the word, I consider this shaving. Its hits I sent which they're being paid on and I'm not. I don't consider this fair.
WG

Here's another way to look at it: they pay you a higher rate to send your traffic to their sites with consoles enabled, and you get that higher rate whether or not they make a sale of the console. And if you still think that isn't fair, you can choose a no-console option and get a lower payout. That's my take on it.

SykkBoy · 04-21-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by emthree

Pisses me the fuck off, especially when I rather pop my own exits.

then why don't you?

WiredGuy · 04-21-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

shaving??? When someone links to a console version tour as opposed to a console free version, generating exit revenue to facilitate the higher payout is hardly shaving

That's why I specifically said in the broadest sense.
And just for the record, I only do promote console free tours

WG

WiredGuy · 04-21-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by psyko514

Here's another way to look at it: they pay you a higher rate to send your traffic to their sites with consoles enabled, and you get that higher rate whether or not they make a sale of the console. And if you still think that isn't fair, you can choose a no-console option and get a lower payout. That's my take on it.

Or, promote no-console versions and negotiate higher payouts with volume

hehe
WG

EviLGuY · 04-22-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jonpotz

of course you feel cheated...

for instance WEGCash sends so much of your foreign traffic to a dialer it kinda sucks...but i still use them ;)

One of the reasons I geo-ip filter all my traffic before sending it to any sponsor.

Quotealex · 04-22-2005, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

why? if I sent it to a specific site and it didn't sell, do they really OWE me any revenues from exits? do you think the hun would feel cheated if you didn't share your revenues with him if he sends you traffic?

as soon as you send the surfer to a sponsor, that surfer is no longer yours...no more than if the hun sends you a surfer, it's no longer his.....

That's why the hun and many other sites have all those rules! Try putting exits on your page or use a sponsors on your page with pop hell and see if the hun list your stuff.

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04-21-2005, 08:47 PM	#4
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	It's skimming by another name, except that traffic redirection is something that we somehow allowed ourselves to be convinced isn't cheating...

04-21-2005, 09:06 PM	#9
foxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 573	why not just cut them out of the loop and send it direct to the sponsor they are rediredting it to? ;)

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