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  • Quotealex
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2001
    • 6265

    #1

    How do you feel of sponsors taking your traffic and sending it to another sponsor?

    You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?
  • Spunky
    I need a beer
    • Jun 2002
    • 133986

    #2
    I guess it's called part of doing business...shrugs

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    • jonpotz
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2004
      • 960

      #3
      Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
      You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?
      of course you feel cheated...

      for instance WEGCash sends so much of your foreign traffic to a dialer it kinda sucks...but i still use them ;)

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      • jayeff
        Confirmed User
        • May 2001
        • 2944

        #4
        It's skimming by another name, except that traffic redirection is something that we somehow allowed ourselves to be convinced isn't cheating...

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        • xiando
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2005
          • 322

          #5
          Yeah, I feel cheated. It's almost as bad as shaving.
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          • pornguy
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            • Mar 2003
            • 62912

            #6
            There are programs that will pay you on the exits. Bit not many.
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            • SureFire
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 4398

              #7
              Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
              You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?
              If they are with ccbill I don't care because if the re-bills are good, I continue to send traffic. If not, I stop promoting them. The sponsors who require a 100 dollar pay out and redirect any ones traffic, I tend to stay away from them because my traffic doesn't convert beyond the minimum payout, and I feel like am charity for porn surfers. I love the sponsors who give credit to any exit program that I get credit for.

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              • Tempest
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • May 2004
                • 10217

                #8
                Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?
                Start your own paysites and send all your own traffic to them... Other than that, suck it up and enjoy the $35/signup payouts cause that's part of the reason why you're getting them.

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                • foxxx
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 573

                  #9
                  why not just cut them out of the loop and send it direct to the sponsor they are rediredting it to? ;)

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                  • esnem

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                    You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?
                    Alex from I Don't Have a Clue, that is why nearly every program has a no console option. If you don't like consoles being served to your traffic, send to no console tours. The $20-$25 dollar payouts on them reflect the value of the traffic w/o consoles. Want $35-$40? Then the program needs to supplement the higher payout with exit revenue.

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                    • esnem

                      #11
                      Originally posted by foxxx
                      why not just cut them out of the loop and send it direct to the sponsor they are rediredting it to? ;)
                      Because the way an exit trade works, it'll go right back to them

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                      • esnem

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jayeff
                        It's skimming by another name, except that traffic redirection is something that we somehow allowed ourselves to be convinced isn't cheating...
                        Read my above post

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                        • Jim Neil
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 254

                          #13
                          Originally posted by foxxx
                          why not just cut them out of the loop and send it direct to the sponsor they are rediredting it to? ;)
                          Great idea foxxx,

                          Is there any way to tell which traffic is going where?
                          I suppose you could use proxies from different countries to see where it all goes, but that could take some time.

                          jim

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                          • XPays
                            Team Player
                            • May 2004
                            • 13002

                            #14
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                            • Rorschach
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 5579

                              #15
                              It's the total $$$ you get from the traffic sent that matters at the end of the day...

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                              • VIPimp
                                Marina WILL have my babies!
                                • May 2003
                                • 9234

                                #16
                                At Epic our 1st exit console is all our own sites and you receive credit for sales made from it. If you dont like consoles, we have a NO Console option but your payout will be less per signup.

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                                • psyko514
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 22366

                                  #17
                                  That's what no-console options are for...

                                  If you're aware of it and yet willingly continue to send traffic, how is that skimming or cheating?

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                                  • SykkBoy2
                                    Jesus loves bacon
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 19969

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                                    You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?
                                    why? if I sent it to a specific site and it didn't sell, do they really OWE me any revenues from exits? do you think the hun would feel cheated if you didn't share your revenues with him if he sends you traffic?

                                    as soon as you send the surfer to a sponsor, that surfer is no longer yours...no more than if the hun sends you a surfer, it's no longer his.....
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                                    • WiredGuy
                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 34512

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                                      You send them hits and they in turn exit it to another sponsor or multiple sponsors. Do you feel cheated when they do that?
                                      It the broadest sense of the word, I consider this shaving. Its hits I sent which they're being paid on and I'm not. I don't consider this fair.
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                                      • emthree
                                        Dialer Kingpin
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 10816

                                        #20
                                        Pisses me the fuck off, especially when I rather pop my own exits.

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                                        • austinth
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 1770

                                          #21
                                          not a big fan of it at all
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                                          • esnem

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                            It the broadest sense of the word, I consider this shaving. Its hits I sent which they're being paid on and I'm not. I don't consider this fair.
                                            WG
                                            shaving??? When someone links to a console version tour as opposed to a console free version, generating exit revenue to facilitate the higher payout is hardly shaving

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                                            • psyko514
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                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 22366

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                              It the broadest sense of the word, I consider this shaving. Its hits I sent which they're being paid on and I'm not. I don't consider this fair.
                                              WG
                                              Here's another way to look at it: they pay you a higher rate to send your traffic to their sites with consoles enabled, and you get that higher rate whether or not they make a sale of the console. And if you still think that isn't fair, you can choose a no-console option and get a lower payout. That's my take on it.

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                                              • SykkBoy2
                                                Jesus loves bacon
                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 19969

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by emthree
                                                Pisses me the fuck off, especially when I rather pop my own exits.
                                                then why don't you?
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                                                • WiredGuy
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 34512

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by esnem
                                                  shaving??? When someone links to a console version tour as opposed to a console free version, generating exit revenue to facilitate the higher payout is hardly shaving

                                                  That's why I specifically said in the broadest sense.
                                                  And just for the record, I only do promote console free tours
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                                                  • WiredGuy
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                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 34512

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by psyko514
                                                    Here's another way to look at it: they pay you a higher rate to send your traffic to their sites with consoles enabled, and you get that higher rate whether or not they make a sale of the console. And if you still think that isn't fair, you can choose a no-console option and get a lower payout. That's my take on it.
                                                    Or, promote no-console versions and negotiate higher payouts with volume
                                                    hehe
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                                                    • EviLGuY
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 12745

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jonpotz
                                                      of course you feel cheated...

                                                      for instance WEGCash sends so much of your foreign traffic to a dialer it kinda sucks...but i still use them ;)
                                                      One of the reasons I geo-ip filter all my traffic before sending it to any sponsor.

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                                                      • Quotealex
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                        • 6265

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                        why? if I sent it to a specific site and it didn't sell, do they really OWE me any revenues from exits? do you think the hun would feel cheated if you didn't share your revenues with him if he sends you traffic?

                                                        as soon as you send the surfer to a sponsor, that surfer is no longer yours...no more than if the hun sends you a surfer, it's no longer his.....
                                                        That's why the hun and many other sites have all those rules! Try putting exits on your page or use a sponsors on your page with pop hell and see if the hun list your stuff.

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