Can I make a suggestion sonofsam? I would suggest some basic English lessons in the near future. With you coming into this thread to defend yourself and sounding like a 12 year old girl, it's hard to take you seriously.

I am no grammar and spelling king by any means, but at least effort is made on my part.

when you drop the fucking hammer down on his ass

Didn't you tell all of your lies yesterday?

Just so you all know. I have plans with my family in about 10 minutes so I will be leaving soon. Just a fair warning so the haters around here can't say that I ran away from this thread. :thumbsup

Gee...Imagine that. Sucks, don't it. :321GFY

Perhaps if you hadn't fucked up so many times then you would not be getting exposed for who and what you really are.

For the record....You implied the word scammer. Not me. Guilty conscience perhaps? :glugglug

Ah come on now. You and I both know that something said on GFY doesn't really affect your rep. You said yourself that GFY'ers don't put money in your pocket.

If anything, this all has damaged his own reputation. However, he's still new and can rebound easily enough. Any shred of damage done to yours can easily be forgotten overnight, you know that. Money talks, and your products are 'money'. You know that.

Everyone makes mistakes Aaron. You both did one time or another. There's no need of this to go any further. When I was new I damaged my own reputation badly enough and made a fool out of myself. It was all my own fault, nobody brings that shit up anymore, nobody cares. They've seen that I have grown and proven myself to not be just some dumb idiot like 90% of GFY.

be a good soul, kiss and make up.

Man, you don't know when to stop, I was going to proffer option 1, then you had to step up and say something stupid.

It sounds to me like you won't even accept option 1, so not really sure why he should leave it on the table.

Guess that only leaves option 5.

This is exactly how I am seeing this issue at this point.

That would be me. We have a date with some friends at Old Chicago shortly.

Ok, but if everything was to cease, I mean everything, his negative ICQs as well as anything on GFY. From this minute forth. The guy is really frustrated and is grasping at straws. He's got very little straws left and is feeling desperate. If you can agree to this I'm sure he would too. If he however doesn't stick to it, then by all means, do what you got to do. He'd be digging his own grave (metaphoricaly).

50..........

I got a few minute extension...They are going to come pick me up instead of me leaving to go over there.

Now I have more time to spend here. :pimp

Everyone makes mistakes. They keep making mistakes until somebody teaches them a lesson. Who's going to teach him that lesson if Aaron doesn't? The next poor soul that tries giving the kid a break?

When there's this much drama surrounding one person in such a short amount of time, 95% of the time it means they brought everything on to themselves.

Aaron the only thing I can suggest is get over the drama. Let it go, settle up with this kid and forget about it.
You and I are not in the best of shape to be stressing out over such details..it's bad for our chubby little hearts.

CDN vs USD

The fact that you have to ask GFY what to do in this situation doesn't make you look any better. Pick one of your options and run with it and keep it to yourself. As for sonofsam, sometimes it's better to just shut your mouth (especially on the boards). You should have scraped up the money and just apologized to Aaron for the hassle and paid him (awhile ago).

I hope you two can finish this ordeal and I wish you both the best, -g

And well worth reading too. :thumbsup

i'm sure this whole experience has already taught him a lesson. If not, then I'll go back to combing my tit hair.

The voice or reason speaks. :thumbsup

No offense meant to you...BUT...After a comment you made in yesterday's thread, it's clear to me that you have suggested something to him about how to use the content. The way you worded that comment concerns me and for that reason, I don't trust you either.

So....Play as nice as you like in this thread but at the end of the day, as level headed as your words may appear from the surface, you and I both know that they are most likely compromised by your own interests...Whatever those may be.

Stuart. I agree with your statement that sonofsam is not one who is intentionally trying to hurt anyone, that he has made some very poor choices, both monetarily and verbally.

No decision goes without consequence; so, this is what I propose.

1. Aaron. You forgive the money and issue the license, based on these conditions.

a. Sonofsam stfu. First and foremost, truly, with wine in my body because of you and sincerity in my heart, I am begging you now. Shut up. When you say things like ' the only reason I did this was 'cause you did that'...well...that's not very business like..and shows just how much you have to learn. So, free advice, because I, too, am rather expensive. STFU.
Really. It's for your own good.

b. Retracts any statement that you deemed disrespectful on a personal and business level, in public on the board or boards of your choice.
c. If he keeps this up, go with number 5.

Can he (sonofsam) be trusted to abide by that agreement?

Wouldnt kiss you on the lips and you are rough as hell on the edges BUT you do not fuck people over, you have great content, you cross your T's and dot your I's.

For sure a dickwad posting false things about you can hurt you.

Nail him to the wall buddy!

I never asked people to tell me what to do. I asked people why I should allow him to piss in my face and then continue to help him.

I haven't arrived at the same conclusion

I would think that the other 2 experiences he faced over the last month or so would have done that.

Don't scratch your nipple with the comb.

Last I checked you needed to have the proper doc's to use this type of material on the internet. Is it safe to say if he doesn't get the doc's the content is useless to him??....................Pay the man.

I haven't either. Not after yesterday and today.

You guys don't see the icqs flying back and forth between this kid, sorry, sonofsam, but you remind me of a kid.....

If there is an opinion on this board that I value...It's Raven's.

Not that I agree or am going to go with her advice...But it does hold a lot of weight with me and I will consider this while out and about.

Speaking of which...I have to go, my ride is due here any minute now....

I'm really sorry you feel that way but I don't give a flying rats ass if you trust me or not. I have no interests in the matter and it doesn't affect me one bit if you don't trust me as I have nothing to gain nor lose whether or not he is allowed to use the content or not. it's his affairs, I'm just trying to help get this guy out of a big mess as I consider him an acquaintance.

If you must know I suggested he use the content once paid for in a premium AVS site. That's it, that's all :) Nothing maliscious whatsoever.

Honnestly? I don't know. He still hasen't even aswered on that one.

Are you telling me that Sononfsam isn't a fake nick? Naah, can't be.

A lot of the damage to your rep was done by you by the way you acted. This was over and done with as far as the board was concerned until you brought it back up today. No one else posted a thread to rehash this. Maybe you like to punish yourself.

You have made it clear on what has happend. Unless he shows some kind of proof to his story (which I have yet to see) then I dont see your rep being damaged.

As for what to do. Each one has its own way of making you satisfied. But which will make you happy in the end?

I simply cannot believe that this continues.

Sonofsam.

You have fucked up more ways than even I can count.

Not only that, your actions have driven me to drink.

You keep digging a deeper hole and your desperate attempts to sway people's opinions to your side are truly pathetic.

Look. Let us remember a few facts.

1. You saw the breakdown of the content, just as I did. Bulk content is what it is. As Donovan said, as Aaron said, as many have said... you get the good, the bad, the ugly......so what? It's a bulk deal. Bulk. Before you make a bulk purchase, it would have behooved you to educate yourself on what a bulk package is.

2. You paid for this content in Canadian money. Wrong. Totally wrong.

3. You whined about being over extended. You asked for a refund, not because you didn't like the content; but, because you were overextended. Your comments about not liking the content came AFTER , not before.

4. You whined about Aaron not sending the content, even after he explained about US/Canadian Customs. You got the content, didn't you?

5. He put you on ignore and I don't blame him. It lasted from the night until the next day. He has had to deal with you every day for long enough.

6. You aren't learning anything from this. If you had, you would have acted in a professional manner....which, as of yet, you have not.

So.

I'm now opting for whatever Aaron can think up....because, at some point, you will have to learn something....or pick something else to do to generate revenue.

May I suggest that you STFU? For real now.

Raven - for once I have to disagree with you. Go back over yesterday's thread and you will see an interesting pattern in his posts.

He is a natural born manipulator - look at how many times he tries to portray himself as a poor struggling little newbie being screwed to death by a big time content provider - just count the number of times he says that Aaron is going to sue him and you will see what I mean.

Personally I think Aaron should wait till he pays the balance - give him the licences and then walk away. The kid is burning so many bridges that he won't even be remembered in 6 months.

:2 cents:

IMHO, I would prefer to settle the outstanding balance, turn over the materials, agree to disagree and part ways. It's been my experience that karma will always take care of the rest. :2 cents:

Read the bold.

Sam: let it go. it's not worth the anxiety and impending stroke.

Tell him how many sets he can have for $4500, let him choose that many sets from the content he has (that way he can say he is happy with the content as well), and send him the docs for those sets.

Then walk away with your head held high.