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Pete · 01-07-2002, 06:45 AM

What are some good avs site sponsors. Is free net pass any good? Its been a while since I heard anything about avs sites, are they still making money?

ez12 · 01-07-2002, 07:31 AM

AVS still rocks for me ! I use FNP and am making big bugs with them ! Many link sites want to link avs sites so you have got many visitors quickly and you get free traffic from the fnp link list.
http://www.freenetpass.com/cgi-bin/w...join.cgi?67529

or just go to:
http://www.freenetpass.com/cgi-bin/webmasterjoin.cgi?

m0rph3us · 01-07-2002, 07:42 AM

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Amputate Your Head · 01-07-2002, 11:02 AM

I always did well with CyberAge Pete... good up front AVS sales, and decent conversions to Premium status.

Fatum · 01-07-2002, 11:20 AM

Avs sites are not easy to make and needs more time to bring some bucks compared to making tgp galleries
But my words: Cyberage rocks!
Free content, free hosting http://aux.avsofchoice.com/new_wm?refwm=4727081

Scarab · 01-07-2002, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ez12:
and am making big bugs with them

How big are the bugs? I hate big bugs!! UUck!

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Amputate Your Head · 01-07-2002, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fatum:
Avs sites are not easy to make and needs more time to bring some bucks compared to making tgp galleries

Only really takes time if you wanna make nice ones. If you make the standard ol' shitty avs site, it's nothing more than a glorified gallery with an avs door on it.

However... I disagree with the taking more time to bring bucks than a gallery. I built 40 sweet-ass avs sites... nice shit... took me a couple months to build 'em... but they converted 1:60 for me straight outta the gate, and upsold to Premium pretty damn well too.

You get out of things exactly what you are willing to put into things. If you wanna whip up 100 shitty AVS sites a day and try to kill them with quantity, well.... that might be one way to look at it... but 1000 shitty non-converting sites makes just as much nothing as one non-converting site.

Build something unique that grabs surfers attention... and they will buy.

Worked for me anyway.

ez12 · 01-07-2002, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scarab:
How big are the bugs? I hate big bugs!! UUck!

it depends how much I work but normally around the 1500$ per period.

Pete · 01-07-2002, 11:35 AM

Ya, I agree with Amp. I'll talk to you on starting another project soon! Whats with Cyber Age though, its not actually a FREE membership like the others is it?

Amputate Your Head · 01-07-2002, 11:45 AM

Nope, CyberAge has different plans they can choose from, but I think the smallest one is still $19.95 or something...

ProAdult also worked pretty well for me. Same deal. I never tried one of the Free AVS systems like FreeNetPass, but I'm sure they must do well also. It's still not free though. From what I understand, they give them *free* membership to the AVS system, when they pay $35 bucks or something for access to another pay system or something.

But I wouldn;t be the most reliable source for that by any means... talk to FreeNetSteve or FreeNetDave for the real skinny on their system... both great guys.

Gary might be able to help illuminate some of this too... I think he uses them quite a bit.

Pete · 01-07-2002, 12:01 PM

Cyber Age charges $19.95, I wonder if you would be better off making an actual pay site and charge that much and get the rebills

Amputate Your Head · 01-07-2002, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete:
Cyber Age charges $19.95, I wonder if you would be better off making an actual pay site and charge that much and get the rebills

Well, couple things...

True... paysite rebills are the benefit there. But you gotta promote the hell out of what you can offer inside, on the tour. (obviously)

The perk with AVS, is you don't really need much on the inside, because you can offer them access to all the other sites in the system for free with just the one membership... so it's kinda like offering tons of content that doesn't hafta come from you.

The downside to AVS, is there's a helluva alot more dorrs they can choose besides yours to buy that membership. So you're competing with all the other doors for that money. Whereas your own paysite, only has your door. Yeah, you compete with the other paysites, but if they want into yours, there's only one way in.

So... I don't know if that helps, but there's plusses and minuses to both. I always say, do both. Never put all your eggs in one basket. It's always easy to shut something down if it doesn't work out.

And with AVS, you can get it free hosted with no banners, so there's really no up front risk. (I should be working for somebody's marketing dept)

Now, with CyberAge, they're only gonna give you so much disk space to start with. They'll give you more if you ask, but the sites you have up need to be converting and making sales before they'll bump your disk space.

ProAdult, on the other hand, will give you what you need. No caps.

http · 01-07-2002, 12:33 PM

I'd say go with ProAdult if you're new to AVS because they are very easy to work with and very responsive. Saves a lot of time because they answer questions very fast. They also send a lot of traffic from their link list.

BV · 01-07-2002, 12:44 PM

The best AVS for me so far has been AgeOath
They are just plain kicking ass for me. The premium program really rocks. BooKoo traffic from the link list and Super Rebills. You're making a mistake if you don't get some premium sites in AgeOath's system!

<a href="http://webmasters.ageoath.com/wmrefer.php?s=574"><img src="http://webmasters.ageoath.com/images/logo.gif" width="185" height="68"></a></p>

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The Other Steve · 01-07-2002, 12:47 PM

Of course, if you're not sure whether to go AVS or paysite you can do both. We have a number of AVS sites that promote nothing but our paysite.

We get sign-ups through the AVS and then get them across to the paysite as well. We have a reasonable level of hardcore in the AVS galleries but tell them that if they want to see Marie covered in cum and really fucking her brains out they're going to have to join the paysite.

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JackFoley · 01-07-2002, 02:50 PM

ez12, where do you find link lists that want to link to AVS sites? As I mentioned in another thread, most sites I've seen won't link to you, or they'll put your site in a seperate "AVS sites" section so only people who already have a pass will ever see your site.

Pete, the way FNP works is, the surfer gets free access to the AVS system as well as a free 3-day trial to a regular paysite, which rebills at $39.95/month if they don't cancel within the trial period. It's similar to SexKey's setup, except FNP pays you more... Unfortunately, I've never had any luck pushing FNP sites for some reason.

CyberAge rocks, and if you'd rather have a paysite-quality site without the hassles of constantly updating, etc., you should try a Platinum site. You get rebills on Platinum sales, just like a paysite, but you don't need that much content to get started.

AgeOath Premium is good too; others can promote your sites using their ARS code, and they pay $40/signup on your own Premium sales.

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pipp · 01-07-2002, 03:18 PM

I use Cyberage as I can not stand the stats interface of adultcheck al tough I got a bunce of sites with AC as well I like cyberage best

CC · 01-07-2002, 03:18 PM

I primarily run paysites, but for the handful of AVS sites that I run, I prefer ProAdult. The guys that run it are great (very good customer service) and they have competitive payouts.

Cassie

Pete · 01-07-2002, 04:09 PM

Hmmmm, sounds pretty good. I already have a paysite with another on the and content isnt a problem but of course making the contents of a paysite is very time consuming and a major pain in the ass. I may go with an AVS site to try it out. I used Sex Key over a year ago and with little traffic to it I got a couple sign ups but that was the end of that in a shortime. I just sort of get the impression that AVS sites are cheezy and low budget. I guess if it makes money than what the hell.

Pete · 01-07-2002, 04:10 PM

with another pay site (on the way)

Pete · 01-07-2002, 04:11 PM

Dont mind me I just got back from the hospital, my wife had a baby boy last night and I'm running on a couple hours sleep

Amputate Your Head · 01-07-2002, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete:
Dont mind me I just got back from the hospital, my wife had a baby boy last night and I'm running on a couple hours sleep

Congratulations man!

http · 01-07-2002, 04:16 PM

Hey, congrats! Smelling into baby diapers ten times a day is fun.

The Other Steve · 01-07-2002, 04:19 PM

Yep congratulations - diapers are nothing - wait till they become teenagers - that's when the shit really starts to fly

But after about 20 years they become adults and well ........

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sarcasticbastard · 01-07-2002, 04:22 PM

damn good posts there guys. i also am down with cyberage i also like most of the others i stay away from ac. sexkey now pays 15 bucks a pop and beats the holy hell out of fnp. the fnp script dont say much about being an avs etc etc where i feel the sexkey does enough to compliment the mind fuck i give the surfer about "our" kids seeing porn
right before he signs up. same with cyberage versus netv in my experience.
and no ibill to worry about. avs sites lots less hassles than a paysite. no doubt you can make more with paysite but that of course comes with added risk. if you can make a tgp gallery you already have a tour and the guts of a regular avs specially for sexkey. never need to build a freesite again and only need ten pics.
need help look us up.
sarcastic-bastards.com

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Beerdude12 · 01-07-2002, 09:25 PM

Congrats on New Baby!

Good posts on AVS guys. Always been CyberAge here, but now I think I'm going to try someone else also to see how they are compare, maybe hit on something good

knuff said

Mark the Pithy · 01-07-2002, 10:25 PM

AVSs are glorified tgp/ll/ses that send traffic pre-qualified as having a credit card and willing to use it online. And they actually pay you for the "bookmarkers" you send them.

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eRock · 01-07-2002, 11:10 PM

Congrats on the baby!

I use cyberage & have had good experiences with them, but I think I'm gonna give Age Othe a shot. It looks like it might do pretty good.

Martin · 01-07-2002, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarcasticbastard:
damn good posts there guys. i also am down with cyberage i also like most of the others i stay away from ac. sexkey now pays 15 bucks a pop and beats the holy hell out of fnp. the fnp script dont say much about being an avs etc etc where i feel the sexkey does enough to compliment the mind fuck i give the surfer about "our" kids seeing porn
right before he signs up. same with cyberage versus netv in my experience.
and no ibill to worry about. avs sites lots less hassles than a paysite. no doubt you can make more with paysite but that of course comes with added risk. if you can make a tgp gallery you already have a tour and the guts of a regular avs specially for sexkey. never need to build a freesite again and only need ten pics.
need help look us up.
sarcastic-bastards.com

This guy know his stuff! He's a very wise man

Congrats on the Baby Pete!!

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Jake · 01-07-2002, 11:29 PM

I agree with many of the above posts. AVS are great and generally have better conversion ratios than TGPs, but TGPs seem to generate more total traffic for me so the actually number of sign-up to effort put in seems to be about the same. Bottom line - DO BOTH AVS & TGPs Later - Charlie

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Amputate Your Head · 01-07-2002, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charlie6763:
but TGPs seem to generate more total traffic for me

Hint: Combine them.

Mark the Pithy · 01-07-2002, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:
Hint: Combine them.

Hehe. People will submit 20+ pic galleries to every tgp in a autosubmitter database and 60+ pic galleries to link lists but worry about "which (one?) AVS should I use?".

The twins have a list of AVSs here at their AVS resource site: http://www.avsalert.com

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01-07-2002, 06:45 AM	#1
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	AVS Sites What are some good avs site sponsors. Is free net pass any good? Its been a while since I heard anything about avs sites, are they still making money?

01-07-2002, 07:31 AM	#2
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	AVS still rocks for me ! I use FNP and am making big bugs with them ! Many link sites want to link avs sites so you have got many visitors quickly and you get free traffic from the fnp link list. http://www.freenetpass.com/cgi-bin/w...join.cgi?67529 or just go to: http://www.freenetpass.com/cgi-bin/webmasterjoin.cgi?

01-07-2002, 07:42 AM	#3
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	Check my sig.... ------------------ ADULTBOUNCER AVS! * FREE Unlimited Hosting (ANY SIZE VIDEOS ALLOWED!) * Free Premium Unique Video Content * Partner Programs to resell your AVS site * Recurring By-Monthly Payouts * Multiple Billers GET STARTED NOW!

01-07-2002, 11:02 AM	#4
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I always did well with CyberAge Pete... good up front AVS sales, and decent conversions to Premium status.

01-07-2002, 11:20 AM	#5
Fatum Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 404 Posts: 459	Avs sites are not easy to make and needs more time to bring some bucks compared to making tgp galleries But my words: Cyberage rocks! Free content, free hosting http://aux.avsofchoice.com/new_wm?refwm=4727081

01-07-2002, 11:35 AM	#9
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Ya, I agree with Amp. I'll talk to you on starting another project soon! Whats with Cyber Age though, its not actually a FREE membership like the others is it?

01-07-2002, 11:45 AM	#10
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Nope, CyberAge has different plans they can choose from, but I think the smallest one is still $19.95 or something... ProAdult also worked pretty well for me. Same deal. I never tried one of the Free AVS systems like FreeNetPass, but I'm sure they must do well also. It's still not free though. From what I understand, they give them free membership to the AVS system, when they pay $35 bucks or something for access to another pay system or something. But I wouldn;t be the most reliable source for that by any means... talk to FreeNetSteve or FreeNetDave for the real skinny on their system... both great guys. Gary might be able to help illuminate some of this too... I think he uses them quite a bit.

01-07-2002, 12:01 PM	#11
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Cyber Age charges $19.95, I wonder if you would be better off making an actual pay site and charge that much and get the rebills

01-07-2002, 12:33 PM	#13
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	I'd say go with ProAdult if you're new to AVS because they are very easy to work with and very responsive. Saves a lot of time because they answer questions very fast. They also send a lot of traffic from their link list.

01-07-2002, 12:44 PM	#14
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	The best AVS for me so far has been AgeOath They are just plain kicking ass for me. The premium program really rocks. BooKoo traffic from the link list and Super Rebills. You're making a mistake if you don't get some premium sites in AgeOath's system! <a href="http://webmasters.ageoath.com/wmrefer.php?s=574"><img src="http://webmasters.ageoath.com/images/logo.gif" width="185" height="68"></a></p> ------------------ BikiniVoyeur: 50% Payouts Weekly! Plus Re Bills! Pimp the Real Shit [This message has been edited by BV (edited 01-07-2002).]

01-07-2002, 12:47 PM	#15
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Of course, if you're not sure whether to go AVS or paysite you can do both. We have a number of AVS sites that promote nothing but our paysite. We get sign-ups through the AVS and then get them across to the paysite as well. We have a reasonable level of hardcore in the AVS galleries but tell them that if they want to see Marie covered in cum and really fucking her brains out they're going to have to join the paysite. ------------------ The Other Steve

01-07-2002, 02:50 PM	#16
JackFoley Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pac-land Posts: 858	ez12, where do you find link lists that want to link to AVS sites? As I mentioned in another thread, most sites I've seen won't link to you, or they'll put your site in a seperate "AVS sites" section so only people who already have a pass will ever see your site. Pete, the way FNP works is, the surfer gets free access to the AVS system as well as a free 3-day trial to a regular paysite, which rebills at $39.95/month if they don't cancel within the trial period. It's similar to SexKey's setup, except FNP pays you more... Unfortunately, I've never had any luck pushing FNP sites for some reason. CyberAge rocks, and if you'd rather have a paysite-quality site without the hassles of constantly updating, etc., you should try a Platinum site. You get rebills on Platinum sales, just like a paysite, but you don't need that much content to get started. AgeOath Premium is good too; others can promote your sites using their ARS code, and they pay $40/signup on your own Premium sales. ------------------ SlutBunnies - $30/sale, bitch.

01-07-2002, 03:18 PM	#17
pipp Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Where the sun don't shine Posts: 1,185	I use Cyberage as I can not stand the stats interface of adultcheck al tough I got a bunce of sites with AC as well I like cyberage best

01-07-2002, 03:18 PM	#18
CC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,690	I primarily run paysites, but for the handful of AVS sites that I run, I prefer ProAdult. The guys that run it are great (very good customer service) and they have competitive payouts. Cassie

01-07-2002, 04:09 PM	#19
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Hmmmm, sounds pretty good. I already have a paysite with another on the and content isnt a problem but of course making the contents of a paysite is very time consuming and a major pain in the ass. I may go with an AVS site to try it out. I used Sex Key over a year ago and with little traffic to it I got a couple sign ups but that was the end of that in a shortime. I just sort of get the impression that AVS sites are cheezy and low budget. I guess if it makes money than what the hell.

01-07-2002, 04:10 PM	#20
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	with another pay site (on the way)

01-07-2002, 04:11 PM	#21
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Dont mind me I just got back from the hospital, my wife had a baby boy last night and I'm running on a couple hours sleep

01-07-2002, 04:16 PM	#23
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	Hey, congrats! Smelling into baby diapers ten times a day is fun.

01-07-2002, 04:19 PM	#24
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Yep congratulations - diapers are nothing - wait till they become teenagers - that's when the shit really starts to fly But after about 20 years they become adults and well ........ ------------------ The Other Steve

01-07-2002, 04:22 PM	#25
sarcasticbastard Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: at the #1 newbie board Posts: 104	damn good posts there guys. i also am down with cyberage i also like most of the others i stay away from ac. sexkey now pays 15 bucks a pop and beats the holy hell out of fnp. the fnp script dont say much about being an avs etc etc where i feel the sexkey does enough to compliment the mind fuck i give the surfer about "our" kids seeing porn right before he signs up. same with cyberage versus netv in my experience. and no ibill to worry about. avs sites lots less hassles than a paysite. no doubt you can make more with paysite but that of course comes with added risk. if you can make a tgp gallery you already have a tour and the guts of a regular avs specially for sexkey. never need to build a freesite again and only need ten pics. need help look us up. sarcastic-bastards.com ------------------ dare to be different never follow the crowd

01-07-2002, 09:25 PM	#26
Beerdude12 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 42	Congrats on New Baby! Good posts on AVS guys. Always been CyberAge here, but now I think I'm going to try someone else also to see how they are compare, maybe hit on something good knuff said

01-07-2002, 10:25 PM	#27
Mark the Pithy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Upstate New Yawk Posts: 276	AVSs are glorified tgp/ll/ses that send traffic pre-qualified as having a credit card and willing to use it online. And they actually *pay you* for the "bookmarkers" you send them. ------------------ (o)Y(º) <- bad boob job

01-07-2002, 11:10 PM	#28
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	Congrats on the baby! I use cyberage & have had good experiences with them, but I think I'm gonna give Age Othe a shot. It looks like it might do pretty good.

01-07-2002, 11:29 PM	#30
Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	I agree with many of the above posts. AVS are great and generally have better conversion ratios than TGPs, but TGPs seem to generate more total traffic for me so the actually number of sign-up to effort put in seems to be about the same. Bottom line - DO BOTH AVS & TGPs Later - Charlie ------------------ CLICKCASH = $60.00 per sign-up, weekly checks sent FedEx, solid program running since 1996, and conversion ratios better than 50:1 because it's FREE for the surfer to sign-up! Drop me a line if you have any questions [email protected]