Did google just tweak their algo ? - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 04-12-2005, 03:10 AM

I'm seing some heavy shifting in the positions.

SEOinc got hit hard - they used to be #1 for "search engine optimization" for a long time. And now totally gone.

MGPspots · 04-12-2005, 03:13 AM

There was a change a few weeks ago but since then things look pretty stable.

Trax · 04-12-2005, 03:25 AM

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...seoinc.com#top

ouch

$5 submissions · 04-12-2005, 03:37 AM

Looks like its happening in blocks

pradaboy · 04-12-2005, 03:58 AM

maybe they got a penalty for having the same anchor text in 90% of their links

Trax · 04-12-2005, 04:00 AM

it is def. an algo change
I noticed rather big differences in traffic the last two days (both up & down)

DarkJedi · 04-12-2005, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy

maybe they got a penalty for having the same anchor text in 90% of their links

yeah, probably triggered some new filter

fünkmaster · 04-12-2005, 04:24 AM

... I don't care about algos, I really don't !!

04-12-2005, 04:25 AM

I've noticed some of my google rankings drop as well. I'm happy to see that it's not just myself noticing a decline.

Worldnet · 04-12-2005, 04:32 AM

My main site never recovered from the florida update, but now it has risen like gangbusters! Woo Hoo!

Project-Shadow · 04-12-2005, 04:37 AM

Not seeing much of a main search difference, but google images had a field day with my thumbs i'm getting 1-2k searches from google daily.. fuck knows how I managed that.

DarkJedi · 04-12-2005, 04:44 AM

yeah image search fucking rules.

if you set up .htaccess redirect, all the suckers get to your main page

Tipsy · 04-12-2005, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Did google just tweak their algo ?

Yep - a small but important one that as you say seems to center on anchor text.

Always interesting how often the 'seo boards' miss stuff like that. They're too worried about when the next visible PR update is to worry about the stuff that's actually important.

cambaby · 04-12-2005, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...seoinc.com#top

ouch

Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

Trax · 04-12-2005, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby

Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

yes you are
look at the massive drop in traffic the last days...

DarkJedi · 04-12-2005, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby

Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

It's a traffic stats graph for seoinc.com
Shows a huge drop in April.

alexg · 04-12-2005, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

yeah image search fucking rules.

if you set up .htaccess redirect, all the suckers get to your main page

could you post the .htaccess code that you use for this?

cambaby · 04-12-2005, 09:21 AM

Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph
Webmaster Labor http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...asterlabor.com
Extreme Paychecks http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...epaychecks.com

Point being I always see a dip in most Alexa graphs all the time, curious how it relates to Google thats all. Also how does Alexa actually TRACK traffic?

MattO · 04-12-2005, 09:23 AM

I've got a site that's showing listings from last september's results. The cache shows old old pages. And up till last week all my listings were completely new content.

Trax · 04-12-2005, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby

Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph
Webmaster Labor http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...asterlabor.com
Extreme Paychecks http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...epaychecks.com

Point being I always see a dip in most Alexa graphs all the time, curious how it relates to Google thats all. Also how does Alexa actually TRACK traffic?

"Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph"??
no
thats bullshit
same with the two examples given as those two sites traffic is not primarily based on SE traffic

xiando · 04-12-2005, 09:34 AM

I think they did. And I seem to be the only one extremely happy about it :-) thank you, google!

DarkJedi · 04-12-2005, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg

could you post the .htaccess code that you use for this?

here's what i got:

Options -Indexes

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/IMAGENAME\.gif[NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/IMAGENAME\.jpg[NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|png|bmp)$ - [F,NC]

ErrorDocument 302 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 400 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 401 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 408 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 500 http://www.domain.com

ClamSmacker · 04-12-2005, 09:37 AM

Yup Google Images Robot is like a rabbit in heat on my site, it just marvellous.

alexg · 04-12-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

here's what i got:

Options -Indexes

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/IMAGENAME\.gif[NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/IMAGENAME\.jpg[NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|png|bmp)$ - [F,NC]

ErrorDocument 302 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 400 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 401 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 408 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 500 http://www.domain.com

yeah it looks similar to what i got.. i'll check to see.
thanks

DarkJedi · 04-12-2005, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg

yeah it looks similar to what i got.. i'll check to see.
thanks

make sure the ErrorDocument goes to your main site and not some 404

The Bootyologist · 04-12-2005, 09:56 AM

looking into it now

Kevsh · 04-12-2005, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

yeah, probably triggered some new filter

I think Google has been flagging redudant anchor text for awhile, it's always best to vary text on incoming links to avoid a potential penalty.

xfalmp · 04-12-2005, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

yes you are
look at the massive drop in traffic the last days...

Hmm yes, but it looks like they're climbing their way up again fast. Or am I losing something? Probably not SE traffic anymore?

nap · 04-12-2005, 10:10 AM

I hope that this is an algo change because I got my #3 position back that was put on page 11 during the last update.

My new site still gets more traffic from Y! though. Very specific terms just not much traffic.

Thurbs · 04-12-2005, 11:07 AM

good stuff .... need to start using good .htaccess docs myself

xxxjay · 04-12-2005, 11:32 AM

Google shifts every few hours now. Get used to it.

cambaby · 04-12-2005, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Google shifts every few hours now. Get used to it.

Thats what I was thinking they are on a rolling algorithm now.

SCORE Ralph · 04-12-2005, 01:16 PM

I believe Alexa tracks traffic through users of their toolbars. Google traffic has nothing to do with Alexa traffic ranks. I havent noticed any changes in the algo since last December.

04-12-2005, 03:13 AM	#2
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04-12-2005, 03:10 AM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Did google just tweak their algo ? I'm seing some heavy shifting in the positions. SEOinc got hit hard - they used to be #1 for "search engine optimization" for a long time. And now totally gone.

04-12-2005, 03:25 AM	#3
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...seoinc.com#top ouch

04-12-2005, 04:00 AM	#6
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	it is def. an algo change I noticed rather big differences in traffic the last two days (both up & down)

04-12-2005, 04:24 AM	#8
fünkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 791	... I don't care about algos, I really don't !!

04-12-2005, 04:25 AM	#9
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	I've noticed some of my google rankings drop as well. I'm happy to see that it's not just myself noticing a decline.

04-12-2005, 04:32 AM	#10
Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	My main site never recovered from the florida update, but now it has risen like gangbusters! Woo Hoo!

04-12-2005, 04:37 AM	#11
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	Not seeing much of a main search difference, but google images had a field day with my thumbs i'm getting 1-2k searches from google daily.. fuck knows how I managed that.

04-12-2005, 04:44 AM	#12
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	yeah image search fucking rules. if you set up .htaccess redirect, all the suckers get to your main page

04-12-2005, 09:21 AM	#18
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph Webmaster Labor http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...asterlabor.com Extreme Paychecks http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...epaychecks.com Point being I always see a dip in most Alexa graphs all the time, curious how it relates to Google thats all. Also how does Alexa actually TRACK traffic?

04-12-2005, 09:23 AM	#19
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	I've got a site that's showing listings from last september's results. The cache shows old old pages. And up till last week all my listings were completely new content.

04-12-2005, 09:37 AM	#23
ClamSmacker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oztralia Posts: 677	Yup Google Images Robot is like a rabbit in heat on my site, it just marvellous.

04-12-2005, 09:56 AM	#26
The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	looking into it now

04-12-2005, 10:10 AM	#29
nap Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: midwest Posts: 2,765	I hope that this is an algo change because I got my #3 position back that was put on page 11 during the last update. My new site still gets more traffic from Y! though. Very specific terms just not much traffic.

04-12-2005, 11:07 AM	#30
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	good stuff .... need to start using good .htaccess docs myself

04-12-2005, 01:16 PM	#33
SCORE Ralph Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,090	I believe Alexa tracks traffic through users of their toolbars. Google traffic has nothing to do with Alexa traffic ranks. I havent noticed any changes in the algo since last December. __________________ GetSCORECash.com \| In the Biz Since 1991 Big Tits \| Granny & MILFs \| Amateurs \| Big Booty \| Foot Fetish \| BBW \| Teens Hosted Embeds \| MP4s \| RSS Feeds \| FHGs \| Model Directory