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Did google just tweak their algo ?

04-12-2005, 02:10 AM

I'm seing some heavy shifting in the positions.

SEOinc got hit hard - they used to be #1 for "search engine optimization" for a long time. And now totally gone.
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04-12-2005, 02:13 AM

There was a change a few weeks ago but since then things look pretty stable.

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04-12-2005, 02:25 AM

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...seoinc.com#top

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04-12-2005, 02:37 AM

Looks like its happening in blocks

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04-12-2005, 02:58 AM

maybe they got a penalty for having the same anchor text in 90% of their links

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04-12-2005, 03:00 AM

it is def. an algo change
I noticed rather big differences in traffic the last two days (both up & down)
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04-12-2005, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by pradaboy

maybe they got a penalty for having the same anchor text in 90% of their links

yeah, probably triggered some new filter
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04-12-2005, 03:24 AM

... I don't care about algos, I really don't !!
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04-12-2005, 03:25 AM

I've noticed some of my google rankings drop as well. I'm happy to see that it's not just myself noticing a decline.
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04-12-2005, 03:32 AM

My main site never recovered from the florida update, but now it has risen like gangbusters! Woo Hoo!
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04-12-2005, 03:37 AM

Not seeing much of a main search difference, but google images had a field day with my thumbs i'm getting 1-2k searches from google daily.. fuck knows how I managed that.
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04-12-2005, 03:44 AM

yeah image search fucking rules.

if you set up .htaccess redirect, all the suckers get to your main page
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04-12-2005, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

Did google just tweak their algo ?

Yep - a small but important one that as you say seems to center on anchor text.

Always interesting how often the 'seo boards' miss stuff like that. They're too worried about when the next visible PR update is to worry about the stuff that's actually important.

Ignorance is never bliss.
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04-12-2005, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Trax

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...seoinc.com#top

ouch

Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?
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04-12-2005, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by cambaby

Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

yes you are
look at the massive drop in traffic the last days...
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04-12-2005, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by cambaby

Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

It's a traffic stats graph for seoinc.com
Shows a huge drop in April.
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04-12-2005, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

yeah image search fucking rules.

if you set up .htaccess redirect, all the suckers get to your main page

could you post the .htaccess code that you use for this?

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04-12-2005, 08:21 AM

Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph
Webmaster Labor http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...asterlabor.com
Extreme Paychecks http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...epaychecks.com

Point being I always see a dip in most Alexa graphs all the time, curious how it relates to Google thats all. Also how does Alexa actually TRACK traffic?
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04-12-2005, 08:23 AM

I've got a site that's showing listings from last september's results. The cache shows old old pages. And up till last week all my listings were completely new content.
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04-12-2005, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by cambaby

Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph
Webmaster Labor http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...asterlabor.com
Extreme Paychecks http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...epaychecks.com

Point being I always see a dip in most Alexa graphs all the time, curious how it relates to Google thats all. Also how does Alexa actually TRACK traffic?

"Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph"??
no
thats bullshit
same with the two examples given as those two sites traffic is not primarily based on SE traffic
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04-12-2005, 08:34 AM

I think they did. And I seem to be the only one extremely happy about it :-) thank you, google!

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04-12-2005, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by alexg

could you post the .htaccess code that you use for this?

here's what i got:

Options -Indexes

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/IMAGENAME\.gif[NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/IMAGENAME\.jpg[NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|png|bmp)$ - [F,NC]

ErrorDocument 302 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 400 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 401 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 408 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 500 http://www.domain.com
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04-12-2005, 08:37 AM

Yup Google Images Robot is like a rabbit in heat on my site, it just marvellous.
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04-12-2005, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

here's what i got:

Options -Indexes

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/IMAGENAME\.gif[NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/IMAGENAME\.jpg[NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|png|bmp)$ - [F,NC]

ErrorDocument 302 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 400 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 401 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 408 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 500 http://www.domain.com

yeah it looks similar to what i got.. i'll check to see.
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04-12-2005, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by alexg

yeah it looks similar to what i got.. i'll check to see.
thanks

make sure the ErrorDocument goes to your main site and not some 404
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04-12-2005, 08:56 AM

looking into it now
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04-12-2005, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

yeah, probably triggered some new filter

I think Google has been flagging redudant anchor text for awhile, it's always best to vary text on incoming links to avoid a potential penalty.
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04-12-2005, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Trax

yes you are
look at the massive drop in traffic the last days...

Hmm yes, but it looks like they're climbing their way up again fast. Or am I losing something? Probably not SE traffic anymore?

Trust the "WOW" effect.
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04-12-2005, 09:10 AM

I hope that this is an algo change because I got my #3 position back that was put on page 11 during the last update.

My new site still gets more traffic from Y! though. Very specific terms just not much traffic.
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04-12-2005, 10:07 AM

good stuff .... need to start using good .htaccess docs myself
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04-12-2005, 10:32 AM

Google shifts every few hours now. Get used to it.

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04-12-2005, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by xxxjay

Google shifts every few hours now. Get used to it.

Thats what I was thinking they are on a rolling algorithm now.
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04-12-2005, 12:16 PM

I believe Alexa tracks traffic through users of their toolbars. Google traffic has nothing to do with Alexa traffic ranks. I havent noticed any changes in the algo since last December.

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