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DarkJedi 04-12-2005 03:10 AM

Did google just tweak their algo ?
 
I'm seing some heavy shifting in the positions.

SEOinc got hit hard - they used to be #1 for "search engine optimization" for a long time. And now totally gone.

http://sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/confused.gif

MGPspots 04-12-2005 03:13 AM

There was a change a few weeks ago but since then things look pretty stable.

Trax 04-12-2005 03:25 AM

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...seoinc.com#top

ouch

$5 submissions 04-12-2005 03:37 AM

Looks like its happening in blocks

pradaboy 04-12-2005 03:58 AM

maybe they got a penalty for having the same anchor text in 90% of their links

Trax 04-12-2005 04:00 AM

it is def. an algo change
I noticed rather big differences in traffic the last two days (both up & down)

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy
maybe they got a penalty for having the same anchor text in 90% of their links

yeah, probably triggered some new filter

fünkmaster 04-12-2005 04:24 AM

... I don't care about algos, I really don't !!

shermo 04-12-2005 04:25 AM

I've noticed some of my google rankings drop as well. I'm happy to see that it's not just myself noticing a decline.

Worldnet 04-12-2005 04:32 AM

My main site never recovered from the florida update, but now it has risen like gangbusters! Woo Hoo! :thumbsup

Project-Shadow 04-12-2005 04:37 AM

Not seeing much of a main search difference, but google images had a field day with my thumbs i'm getting 1-2k searches from google daily.. fuck knows how I managed that.

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 04:44 AM

yeah image search fucking rules.

if you set up .htaccess redirect, all the suckers get to your main page :glugglug

Tipsy 04-12-2005 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Did google just tweak their algo ?

Yep - a small but important one that as you say seems to center on anchor text.

Always interesting how often the 'seo boards' miss stuff like that. They're too worried about when the next visible PR update is to worry about the stuff that's actually important.

cambaby 04-12-2005 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

Trax 04-12-2005 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby
Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

yes you are
look at the massive drop in traffic the last days...

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby
Err how does Alexa have to do with Google? Am I missing something?

It's a traffic stats graph for seoinc.com
Shows a huge drop in April.

alexg 04-12-2005 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
yeah image search fucking rules.

if you set up .htaccess redirect, all the suckers get to your main page :glugglug

could you post the .htaccess code that you use for this?

cambaby 04-12-2005 09:21 AM

Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph
Webmaster Labor http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...asterlabor.com
Extreme Paychecks http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...epaychecks.com

Point being I always see a dip in most Alexa graphs all the time, curious how it relates to Google thats all. Also how does Alexa actually TRACK traffic?

MattO 04-12-2005 09:23 AM

I've got a site that's showing listings from last september's results. The cache shows old old pages. And up till last week all my listings were completely new content.

Trax 04-12-2005 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby
Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph
Webmaster Labor http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...asterlabor.com
Extreme Paychecks http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...epaychecks.com

Point being I always see a dip in most Alexa graphs all the time, curious how it relates to Google thats all. Also how does Alexa actually TRACK traffic?

"Doesnt everyones traffic drop on an Alexa graph"??
no
thats bullshit
same with the two examples given as those two sites traffic is not primarily based on SE traffic

xiando 04-12-2005 09:34 AM

I think they did. And I seem to be the only one extremely happy about it :-) thank you, google!

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
could you post the .htaccess code that you use for this?

here's what i got:

Options -Indexes

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/IMAGENAME\.gif[NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/IMAGENAME\.jpg[NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|png|bmp)$ - [F,NC]


ErrorDocument 302 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 400 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 401 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 408 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 500 http://www.domain.com

ClamSmacker 04-12-2005 09:37 AM

Yup Google Images Robot is like a rabbit in heat on my site, it just marvellous.

alexg 04-12-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
here's what i got:

Options -Indexes

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.domain.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/IMAGENAME\.gif[NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/images/IMAGENAME\.jpg[NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|png|bmp)$ - [F,NC]


ErrorDocument 302 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 400 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 401 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 408 http://www.domain.com
ErrorDocument 500 http://www.domain.com

yeah it looks similar to what i got.. i'll check to see.
thanks

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
yeah it looks similar to what i got.. i'll check to see.
thanks

make sure the ErrorDocument goes to your main site and not some 404

The Bootyologist 04-12-2005 09:56 AM

looking into it now

Kevsh 04-12-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
yeah, probably triggered some new filter

I think Google has been flagging redudant anchor text for awhile, it's always best to vary text on incoming links to avoid a potential penalty.

xfalmp 04-12-2005 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
yes you are
look at the massive drop in traffic the last days...

Hmm yes, but it looks like they're climbing their way up again fast. Or am I losing something? Probably not SE traffic anymore?

nap 04-12-2005 10:10 AM

I hope that this is an algo change because I got my #3 position back that was put on page 11 during the last update.

My new site still gets more traffic from Y! though. Very specific terms just not much traffic.

Thurbs 04-12-2005 11:07 AM

good stuff .... need to start using good .htaccess docs myself

xxxjay 04-12-2005 11:32 AM

Google shifts every few hours now. Get used to it.

cambaby 04-12-2005 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
Google shifts every few hours now. Get used to it.

Thats what I was thinking they are on a rolling algorithm now. :thumbsup

SCORE Ralph 04-12-2005 01:16 PM

I believe Alexa tracks traffic through users of their toolbars. Google traffic has nothing to do with Alexa traffic ranks. I havent noticed any changes in the algo since last December.


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