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Old 04-10-2005, 11:47 PM   #1
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The real truth about Alien

All the drama as of late n' shit aside, there's one thing that is shining far, bright, and above all else with this guy.....


He's got WAY bigger balls than 99.9% of you fucking tools that populate this board. He ain't AFRAID OF YOU.

I respect that.
I respect that any day over someone's "IDEA" that they are some sort of fucking 'personality' here.


Beyond your fucking EGOS.

try to take amoment and see what that might look like out there, beyond the horizon..... beyond your fat fucking heads.





Alien is good in my book.
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Old 04-10-2005, 11:48 PM   #2
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aFRAID? Posting stupid shit doesnt have anything to do with fear.
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aFRAID? Posting stupid shit doesnt have anything to do with fear.

And DO YOU THINK FOR ONE FUCKING MINUTE THAT I WILL BE AFRAID TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT ON THIS BOARD AND IN A VERY LOUD MANNER???!!!!

TO YOU??!

TO ANYONE??!!!!




REPEATEDLY!!!!????





oh no..... but the lashback from the gfy'ers..... the wrath of Lensman.... oh no..... should I?

should I?

dare I?












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Ah he's okay in my book too.


But if'n he ain't a crybaby lately I don't know who is.


The hell he ain't.
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And DO YOU THINK FOR ONE FUCKING MINUTE THAT I WILL BE AFRAID TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT ON THIS BOARD AND IN A VERY LOUD MANNER???!!!!

If you dont stop yelling im going to turn down my speakers you bastard
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Much appreciated Amp.

These days the trolls are to easy to excite.
They do not know how to let go of fear.
It's an instrument that they bite on every time, as though its the only thing keeping them alive yet its the very thing keeping them in prison.

As ya would say.

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I dig the title of this thread. The REAL Truth....

I remember my first Philosophy class in college. The professor would pick out students at random and say "DO YOU KNOW THE REAL TRUTH???" Well, when we started with Plato people were pretty sure they knew some semblance of truth... by the time the course ended with Jacques Derrida... the truth had become yet another casualty.
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... He's got WAY bigger balls than 99.9% of you fucking tools that populate this board. He ain't AFRAID OF YOU. ...
Alien is good in my book.

He's OK with me too, but I do seem to remember him lacking the balls to publicly apologize to me for the whole fiasco over those pics I published from a model's portfolio. Even after I published irrefutable, irrevocable, undeniable evidence that I was in the right %100 and he and his buddy whats-his-name were full of shit.

So if he's got such big balls (and I do respect much of what he has to say, just to be clear on that point) why doesn't he come out and apologize to me after I made the post providing proof?

Did he disappear over that horizon and miss it?
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I remember ya Workshop Wonka Willy...

You were selling a model while not selling your skills in photograhy which is part in parcel of offering photograhy services.
Ya used someone elses photo instead that was not yours.

Ya get no apology...

You should thank me for teaching you somthing valuable.

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I remember ya Workshop Wonka Willy...

You were selling a model while not selling your skills in photograhy which is part in parcel of offering photograhy services.
Actually, I was selling the model. The "part and parcel" part of that was your obfuscation.


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Ya used someone elses photo instead that was not yours.

Ya get no apology...

You should thank me for teaching you somthing valuable.

Soo......

You're saying, fly a model 3,000 miles and pay her for a test shoot rather than use the pictures she publishes in her own portfolio which are published for the very purpose of showing her off?

Hmm.... sounds like you could use a valuable lesson in business management.

By the way, yer buddy (what was his name again?) never ever responded to my post quoting the original photographer stating that it was perfectly OK for me to have used those images as I did. I think his statement to me on ICQ was that he was talking to the photographer (his oh-so-good-friend, ROFLMAO) and they were in the midst of arranging legal action against me. This was only an hour or so before the photographer replied to me saying everything was A-OK with my use of the images. (You actually hang with this dude? Do you wear rubber boots much? I hope so.)

Have anything cogent to add to that? Wanna give up now, or will you bull ahead with your "part and parcel" nonsense?
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The "part and parcel" part of that was your obfuscation.
YOINK! Time for CD's new word of the day people....

Main Entry: ob·fus·cate
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Etymology: Late Latin obfuscatus, past participle of obfuscare, from Latin ob- in the way + fuscus dark brown -- more at OB-, DUSK
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Very nice. :D

Thanks! But I'm in error. After reviewing the tape, I see that Alien said "part in parcel", which is not a term I've encountered before and therefore confuses me. I bow to his rapier-like esoteric wisdom in the art of adversarial parlance.
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Correctamundo. It is, in fact, part AND parcel.

Good catch.
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I am tellin ya what ya did wrong idiot.

I didnt tell how to solve the problem.

Wipe your own ass. I am not going to hold the hand of everyone of you dumb bitches through this.
Ya got into it and if ya want professional advice on how to conduct yourself ya can contact me anytime.

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I am tellin ya what ya did wrong idiot.

I didnt tell how to solve the problem.
Hmmm... so no one but you and your buddy thought what I did was wrong, including the photographer (on whose behalf you ostensibly acted). Sounds like the problem was solved. You on the other hand, may want to take a deep breath and be a man about the whole issue by apologizing. I don't want to believe that in the face of all of this you're still holding out, but not to believe what I'm seeing with my own eyes puts me in the same boat with you and whats-his-name, and I don't own any rubber boots! It's either amusing or sad, depending.

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Wipe your own ass. I am not going to hold the hand of everyone of you dumb bitches through this.
Ya got into it and if ya want professional advice on how to conduct yourself ya can contact me anytime.
VEEERY professional.
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Ya could have done alot better with that thread.

Either way...

Did ya end up shooting her?
Did ya get contacted to have her schedualed?
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If ya didnt thats to bad...
She looked like a nice girl worthy of some shots taken.
At least she was promoted some.

If ya did...
Not bad at all. The Thread served its purpose at the end of the day.

If there was not drama the thread would have been buried and nothing would have happened. At the end of the day the thread served its purpose.

Think about it dude.
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Which thread? This one or the original one? You got buried in both, so "either way", so to speak.

But to continue -- are you speaking of professional and ethical behavior where that shoot was concerned? Now, I'll give you a little hint here: be very careful.
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Think about it dude.
GFY is never wrong.
No, but you are. You and whats-his-name posted the only drama on the entire thread.

Think about it dude.
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Well I guess she just got promoted and that was that then.

Tough break.
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Well I guess she just got promoted and that was that then.

Tough break.
Thanks for the confirmation.
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One more time...

Were you are were you NOT advertsing to shoot the girl? As I recall YES you were.
DID YOU use someone elses work to Promote your photograhy services? YES you did.

As I recall thats why ya fucked yourself.

I dont give a rats ass who's photos they were, if you were selling photography services to have a girl shot and showing someone elses work ya really cut your own head off.

If Your gonna do photo shoots and sell the service...
Umm people are going to want to know how well you shoot...
I was curious myself to know how well ya shoot.

We can have a chat about it over some coffee if ya like.
I notice ya are in LA. I will give ya an apology if I really hurt your feelings but I am sure ya got tougher skin than that.

Or was the whole thing staged fake drama to promote the girl

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So manchild looks up to someone because they act like an idiot on a webmaster board?

All time low for manchild.
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. . .DID YOU use someone elses work to Promote your photograhy services? YES you did.
That's where you go wrong. As I explained on the thread, those photos were from her portfolio. I was simply presenting her as someone whom I could shoot for custom content. Period.

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As I recall thats why ya fucked yourself.
I didn't fuck myself. You and whats-his-name were the ONLY people who took issue, including I might add (for like the 4th or 6th time, LOL) the photographer who took the photos. Is that sinking in yet?

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I dont give a rats ass who's photos they were...
My, I'd hate to see you respond to a thread wherein you actually DID mind!

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If Your gonna do photo shoots and sell the service...
Umm people are going to want to know how well you shoot...
I was curious myself to know how well ya shoot.
And I posted samples in the thread. Or you could have clicked to my site. Or you could have said, "Gee, can I see some of your sample shots?"

Your point?

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We can have a chat about it over some coffee if ya like.
I notice ya are in LA. I will give ya an apology if I really hurt your feelings but I am sure ya got tougher skin than that.
Good bet. But you were on GFY blindly following your friend in denigrating me professionally. He was proven wrong, and frankly, you were wrong. So I prefer that you apologize in here -- after all, if you shit on the front porch, you don't clean the closet.
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Sigh...

Why oh why do I even bother....


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=417091


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It dont matter dip shit.

You sell yourself, sell your work and not someone elses. All photographers have a style and its a consideration for people to see your work, not just the girl.

Trust me on this.

Then you comming in on the scene calling a respected guy in this business some shit. Thats really dumb.
POVPORN GUY, is is a great guy if ya knew em ya would value what he had to say. Your an idiot in the first place but you really just kinda stepped over the top.

I do not usually respond to newbies but since your a local guy I cut ya some slack. Smarten up dude.
I have to fucken quoate self these days...
Jesus fucking christ why..
WHY!>??>?


Someone just gimme a brick wall why do I even bother...

NO apologies. I told ya how it was then I am tellin ya how it is now.
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:00 AM   #40
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So Amp posts a thread about Alien being ok after all......

Some people calm down a little and agree that sometimes he is ok..... He then arrives in the thread and starts doing his "Mr Angry" impression in the SAME thread

I think its my self destructive streak that keeps me coming back here
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:04 AM   #41
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Sigh...

Why oh why do I even bother....


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=417091




I have to fucken quoate self these days...
Jesus fucking christ why..
WHY!>??>?


Someone just gimme a brick wall why do I even bother...

NO apologies. I told ya how it was then I am tellin ya how it is now.

Well amputate, there you have it. Nutless. Hypocritical. Stubborn. He is however very loyal to whats-his-name. He's probably the kind of friend you would need if you have a habit of getting your ass in a crack.

Prosecution rests.
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:07 AM   #42
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Dude ya never even posted the photos ya said ya were going to take at the end of that thread.

Still to this god damn day I not seen a single photo of yours...

I basicaly told your ass to use your own work to promote yourself NOT someone elses. Sorry Pal...
You fucked up. I pointed it out for ya.

My fucking god people...

WHATS IN THE WATER?

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Old 04-11-2005, 03:44 AM   #43
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Dude ya never even posted the photos ya said ya were going to take at the end of that thread.

Still to this god damn day I not seen a single photo of yours...

I basicaly told your ass to use your own work to promote yourself NOT someone elses. Sorry Pal...
You fucked up. I pointed it out for ya.

My fucking god people...

WHATS IN THE WATER?
Well ampy, if that one doesn't convince you I don't know what will.
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:47 AM   #44
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ialen took my advice, possible subconsciousness and AMPs thread came to confirm it. I'm not gonna further analyze it though

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Old 04-11-2005, 05:21 AM   #45
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Old 04-11-2005, 11:23 AM   #46
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Well ampy, just to make sure the point is obvious --

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...
Then you comming in on the scene calling a respected guy in this business some shit. Thats really dumb.
{whats-his-name}, is is a great guy if ya knew em ya would value what he had to say. Your an idiot in the first place but you really just kinda stepped over the top.

Excerpts of ICQ log with whats-his-name:
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(whats-his-name): tell it to {the photographer}, who's pictures you hotlinked after clipping off his Copywrite & use them to advertise your business {note: I didn't clip anything, the model did, and whats-his-name backed off of that toot sweet - the one smart thing he did in this whole affair}

. . .

(whats-his-name): talking to {the photographer} right now

. . .

(whats-his-name): his Lawyer will contact you

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And now what {the photographer} told me shortly after the above conversation via email:

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I don't have any problem with the way those images are being used
It is up to the girl to promote herself any way she wants for future work
No need to worry about them

{the photographer}
So, apparently the 'respected' (quote, AlienQ) whats-his-name is completely full of shit. AlienQ not only stuck up for this guy, he continues to do so over this very issue.

Had enough Alien? I'm having fun bouncing your head off the sidewalk here, so to speak, but it's probably not as much fun for you. A simple apology here in the forum where you first stepped on your dick would have sufficed, and still would.

It would be a very "professional" gesture on your part.

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Old 04-11-2005, 11:29 AM   #47
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Like it takes balls to talk shit and mindless drivel on a message board. Take a step back into reality.
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Someone get AlienQ back on his meds.
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Well ampy, just to make sure the point is obvious --




Excerpts of ICQ log with whats-his-name:
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(whats-his-name): tell it to {the photographer}, who's pictures you hotlinked after clipping off his Copywrite & use them to advertise your business {note: I didn't clip anything, the model did, and whats-his-name backed off of that toot sweet - the one smart thing he did in this whole affair}

. . .

(whats-his-name): talking to {the photographer} right now

. . .

(whats-his-name): his Lawyer will contact you

-------------------------------------------

And now what {the photographer} told me shortly after the above conversation via email:



So, apparently the 'respected' (quote, AlienQ) whats-his-name is completely full of shit. AlienQ not only stuck up for this guy, he continues to do so over this very issue.

Had enough Alien? I'm having fun bouncing your head off the sidewalk here, so to speak, but it's probably not as much fun for you. A simple apology here in the forum where you first stepped on your dick would have sufficed, and still would.

It would be a very "professional" gesture on your part.
Eat a dick fuck head...
Read my words and why you were wrong and how I know you were wrong.
Get the story right. You fucked up using someone elses pics to sell your photography services.

I can Message POVGUY for ya... Seems ya wanna piss with him more than me...
Which is again just dumb.

Seriously I can give two fucks you retard. You now owe me $40.00 Bucks just by showing what a tarded moron you are.

I am gonna start charging you fucken trolls for my time.

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