Got a 150-200k a day tgp for sale - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sexysphere

I may be interrested but i don't think it's doing that much traffic, http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...detective.com/
And it's not really stable, you should wait two months or so before selling it.

i allready said its 1 month old

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaddam IV

here's his traffic stats:

http://www.imagecup.com/albums/userp...032/stats2.jpg

25k NoRef = Feed Traffic.

ME (11:09 AM) :
hey man, can i see the stats ?

webalzier (or something) and trade script stats
(Message was sent. User is Offline.The message will be delivered when user goes Online.)
SANDMAN (11:10 AM) :
5 min's asking owner for screenshot

ME (11:10 AM) :
it's not your site ?
SANDMAN (11:10 AM) :
nope

SANDMAN (11:11 AM) :
never said it was

SANDMAN (11:11 AM) :
i trust owner of site tho

SANDMAN (11:11 AM) :
we have done biz before
thats why im trying to sell his site for him

ME (11:11 AM) :
ok
SANDMAN (11:13 AM) :
demo544
http://www.thumbdetective.com/tt2/trade.php?
144k in right now
its weekend tho
traffic is allways low at this time usually 10-25% on tgp's

so NoRef traffic is now feeder traffic?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I have had 15-20% no NoRef traffic on every site i have owned that was not fed traffic.

another newbie in the house

Tempest · 04-03-2005, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i dont get 10 trades on 10 clicks.

What do you get? Most people consider anything that gets less than 50% content to be a CJ site, even if "technically" it may not be.

Is this site associated with sexocean????

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

What do you get? Most people consider anything that gets less than 50% content to be a CJ site, even if "technically" it may not be.

Is this site associated with sexocean????

nope sexcean is a diffrent owner.

JOKER · 04-03-2005, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i allready said its 1 month old

wait a few months, collect stats, then proove it's stable.

No-one is buying fresh sites with alot of traffic, it's too much of a risk.

As for that Alexa Rank, I can do that with any domain within 2 weeks, Alexa is not too correct about traffic. But the peaks are indeed interesting.

As mentioned, wait some time, collect stats for prooving it's legit (income stats as well) then sell it for the amount it would generate during 6 months, fair enough.

Just my

, no offense.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JOKEREMPIRE

wait a few months, collect stats, then proove it's stable.

No-one is buying fresh sites with alot of traffic, it's too much of a risk.

As for that Alexa Rank, I can do that with any domain within 2 weeks, Alexa is not too correct about traffic. But the peaks are indeed interesting.

As mentioned, wait some time, collect stats for prooving it's legit (income stats as well) then sell it for the amount it would generate during 6 months, fair enough.

Just my

, no offense.

i understand all your points

in 2 months price will go up if its not sold now

Shaddam IV · 04-03-2005, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

so NoRef traffic is now feeder traffic?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

What is it then ? Bookmarkers ?

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaddam IV

What is it then ? Bookmarkers ?

refferals are lost between scripts all the time.

but then again a newbie like you would not know that.

got back to your 2k a day tgp's you cant afford this site i would imagine.

JOKER · 04-03-2005, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaddam IV

What is it then ? Bookmarkers ?

Have you ever owned any high-traffic sites?

Guess not, otherwise you had a clue.

Seems like you have no idea a certain % of traffic has no -ref caused my privacy tools installed, jacked browsers etc.

Many reasons and very common.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JOKEREMPIRE

Have you ever owned any high-traffic sites?

Guess not, otherwise you had a clue.

Seems like you have no idea a certain % of traffic has no -ref caused my privacy tools installed, jacked browsers etc.

Many reasons and very common.

he is just a gfy idiot that keeps this thread up top.

people like him are usefull

Shaddam IV · 04-03-2005, 01:37 AM

rrrrrright...

hey, it's not even your site, how do you know the owner not feeding it ?

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaddam IV

rrrrrright...

hey, it's not even your site, how do you know the owner not feeding it ?

because he is not some newbie like you.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 02:41 AM

.

aleck · 04-03-2005, 03:22 AM

heh, you have hard time with these n00bs here. good luck with the sale

Dalai lama · 04-03-2005, 03:48 AM

Let me make a summary:
1. It's not even his own site
2. It's at least 90% skimmed traffic
4. +-10% of his traffic goes to galleries ( which means at 200k / 20k hits to galleries, makes him 5 sales a day )
3. It has 25k Noref traffic, but since today that's called Feeder traffic
4. Site is one month old, no stable traffic at all.

I wouldnt say hitbot, but i would say Bullshit

Dalai lama · 04-03-2005, 03:50 AM

Also

Quote:

i have done 5 sales a day with a 2 week old site you have no idea what your talking about.

And later he says it's not his own site.

chemicaleyes · 04-03-2005, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Also

And later he says it's not his own site.

Read what he said again bro.. he's not talking about doing sales on the site he's trying to sell.

Dalai lama · 04-03-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes

Read what he said again bro.. he's not talking about doing sales on the site he's trying to sell.

I see now, well then he has something to bitch about in his reply

Krille · 04-03-2005, 04:36 AM

$8000 for a 150k site when you can buy one from damagex for $3600?

http://www.************/pricing.html

adonthenet · 04-03-2005, 04:46 AM

I agree Krille..

rowan · 04-03-2005, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaddam IV

here's his traffic stats:

http://www.imagecup.com/albums/userp...032/stats2.jpg

25k NoRef = Feed Traffic.

It's normal for 20-30% of traded TGP traffic to have the referer blocked. This is unlikely to be feeder.

I'd be more worried about the trade with sexocean.

rowan · 04-03-2005, 05:24 AM

If I'm reading the stats right...

Out to trades = 180462
Out to galleries = 67903
Total clicks = 248900 (248364 if you add the above 2 numbers)

Only 28% of clicks are going to galleries.

jayeff · 04-03-2005, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Let me make a summary:
1. It's not even his own site
2. It's at least 90% skimmed traffic
4. +-10% of his traffic goes to galleries ( which means at 200k / 20k hits to galleries, makes him 5 sales a day )
3. It has 25k Noref traffic, but since today that's called Feeder traffic
4. Site is one month old, no stable traffic at all.

I wouldnt say hitbot, but i would say Bullshit

I can't help wondering what axe you seem to be busy grinding...

1. So what?
2. I assume skimmed = traded? Exactly what ratio of bookmarkers would you expect on a site a month old?
3. Around 30% of the traffic goes to galleries although yes, in my book that does make it a CJ site too, but let's not get carried away with the mud slinging.
4. Since when has NoRef traffic been called Feeder traffic and by who? NoRef means just that, no more, no less. Feeder traffic may or may not carry a referrer: it depends entirely on how it is being sent. I would say there is a chunk of exit traffic in there, just because the number is high in relation to the total site size, but again let's stay credible.
5. It can't have the bookmarkers after a month, which is where real stability comes from, but a month is more than long enough to build stable trades.

If you hadn't been so anxious to plug your sig or whatever, you could have made some legitimate points. I don't disagree with your conclusion: just the way you chose to justify it. The productivity is borderline and you can only guess how much it would improve with a lower skim to trades (if you wanted to go TGP and not CJ). I spotted Sex Ocean and several sister sites among the major trading partners, so even if as claimed, this isn't SO's site, I would still be concerned how much of those trades I could rely on (and whether I would want them). Most of all, as someone else has already said, a similar site from one of the TGP building services would cost a lot less.

Alex · 04-03-2005, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by yuvalus

Doesn't seem like hitbot traffic for me

and sleazy next time please explain your arguments
like 2 days ago you said NATS is shavable but you didn't explain, and now that
it's very annoying

Sleazy says a lot of stuff. Nats is a good program but anyone with half a brain knows that it can be used to shave.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

If I'm reading the stats right...

Out to trades = 180462
Out to galleries = 67903
Total clicks = 248900 (248364 if you add the above 2 numbers)

Only 28% of clicks are going to galleries.

I didnt do the math but i know from 2nd grade taht 180462 + 67903 = should be a *****5 because the last numners 2+3 = 5/
Assuming you got 248364 with "4" being the last number you must have messed up somewhere else.

Im going to co calculate myself.

rowan · 04-03-2005, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I didnt do the math but i know from 2nd grade taht 180462 + 67903 = should be a *****5 because the last numners 2+3 = 5/
Assuming you got 248364 with "4" being the last number you must have messed up somewhere else.

I was off by 1. Probably hit 2 twice instead of 2 then 3.

180462 + 67903 = 248365

Alex · 04-03-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

I was off by 1. Probably hit 2 twice instead of 2 then 3.

180462 + 67903 = 248365

Yup you were right.
It was roughly 28% to galleries if thats right
My TGPs do 30% to trades and i sometimes feel it to high

fris · 04-03-2005, 07:13 AM

i bet its a site you bought off mgpbuilders

Barefootsies · 04-03-2005, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

Oh shit son

What will you do if he posts it? You will be owned. Not that it matters. No one is paying that for a site 1 month old legit or not.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

i bet its a site you bought off mgpbuilders

nope

.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Let me make a summary:
1. It's not even his own site
2. It's at least 90% skimmed traffic
4. +-10% of his traffic goes to galleries ( which means at 200k / 20k hits to galleries, makes him 5 sales a day )
3. It has 25k Noref traffic, but since today that's called Feeder traffic
4. Site is one month old, no stable traffic at all.

I wouldnt say hitbot, but i would say Bullshit

I never said i made 5 sales a day off this site or off of 20k a day.

fris · 04-03-2005, 01:19 PM

no wonder these punks build up sites so fast they send 80-85 to trades. they fool surfers. you click so many times u dont even get a real gallery.

to tell you the truth.

i would rather have a 15-20k site with 85% to gals and lots of bookmarkers.

than a 100k site with garbage trades so if your site goes down it looses its traffic. 80-90% to trades and hardly any to galleries.

a 15-20k site like that is worth more in value to me anyday.

Lee · 04-03-2005, 02:49 PM

Good luck in selling it but it took me 16 clicks to hit a gallery.

Heres a bump for ya anyway.

ffmihai · 04-03-2005, 02:50 PM

there are skilled people that know how to grow sites but dont make a bussiness out of it (not that that would be a bad thing). so those that dont believe a site can be grown that big whithout constant feeder let me tell you that you are wrong.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee

Good luck in selling it but it took me 16 clicks to hit a gallery.

Heres a bump for ya anyway.

thanks

beta-tester · 04-03-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

no wonder these punks build up sites so fast they send 80-85 to trades. they fool surfers. you click so many times u dont even get a real gallery.

to tell you the truth.

i would rather have a 15-20k site with 85% to gals and lots of bookmarkers.

than a 100k site with garbage trades so if your site goes down it looses its traffic. 80-90% to trades and hardly any to galleries.

a 15-20k site like that is worth more in value to me anyday.

I AGREE WITH YOU AT ALL.
20K site with 85% to gals and lots of bookmarkers is a WAY TOOOO better than 150K site with 20% to galleries and only few bookmarkers...
QUALITY is the MOST important, not QUANTITY ;)

Anyways, good luck.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by beta-tester

I AGREE WITH YOU AT ALL.
20K site with 85% to gals and lots of bookmarkers is a WAY TOOOO better than 150K site with 20% to galleries and only few bookmarkers...
QUALITY is the MOST important, not QUANTITY ;)

Anyways, good luck.

the 150k a day site will make way more then the 20k a day site 99% of the time.

Peter Romero · 04-03-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chowda

looks nice. but man, the first ten clicks were all to trades. :S

EXACTLY!!!

Shooting_Manic · 04-03-2005, 04:08 PM

I can get a new one built from damagex for 3k.

Youre on crack.

Sorry

nikad · 04-03-2005, 04:21 PM

Since the site is so new, why the cost is 8k$? How much money did it make during the first month? I thought the estimated cost for a site was something like 6 months of revenue...
Nik

beta-tester · 04-03-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

the 150k a day site will make way more then the 20k a day site 99% of the time.

nop,
with such a quality of traffic it won't make more than QUALITY 20k site.
Consider this:
20K site is receiving about 300% prod (because of high skim to gals, and a lot of quality bookmarkers).
That's 60k clicks.
90% to galleries, means: 54K pure HQ clicks goes to galleries.

And now: 150K site, is getting traffic with prod of 100% or less prod (because of low bookmarkes and low gallery skiming).
that's 150K clicks.
Let's say true 35% goes to galleries, which makes 52.5K to galleries. And don't forget 52.5K non quality clicks...

As you can see 20K site will get even more clicks, but QUALITY clicks ;)

escorpio · 04-03-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

no wonder these punks build up sites so fast they send 80-85 to trades. they fool surfers. you click so many times u dont even get a real gallery.

to tell you the truth.

i would rather have a 15-20k site with 85% to gals and lots of bookmarkers.

than a 100k site with garbage trades so if your site goes down it looses its traffic. 80-90% to trades and hardly any to galleries.

a 15-20k site like that is worth more in value to me anyday.

absolutely

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by beta-tester

nop,
with such a quality of traffic it won't make more than QUALITY 20k site.
Consider this:
20K site is receiving about 300% prod (because of high skim to gals, and a lot of quality bookmarkers).
That's 60k clicks.
90% to galleries, means: 54K pure HQ clicks goes to galleries.

And now: 150K site, is getting traffic with prod of 100% or less prod (because of low bookmarkes and low gallery skiming).
that's 150K clicks.
Let's say true 35% goes to galleries, which makes 52.5K to galleries. And don't forget 52.5K non quality clicks...

As you can see 20K site will get even more clicks, but QUALITY clicks ;)

there is no 150k a day sites with 100% productivity without being fed its not possible.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nikad

Since the site is so new, why the cost is 8k$? How much money did it make during the first month? I thought the estimated cost for a site was something like 6 months of revenue...
Nik

same gals are being used on more then 1 site.
so there is no stated revenue.

Price got droped to 7k also.

Violetta · 04-03-2005, 04:41 PM

Why do you sell it now, when you know it will be worth more in a couple of months?

One thing is for sure: NOONE on this planet would ever bookmark a site with a that high skim.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

Why do you sell it now, when you know it will be worth more in a couple of months?

One thing is for sure: NOONE on this planet would ever bookmark a site with a that high skim.

Owner would rather have the $$$ now.

He can allways build another site

Snake Doctor · 04-03-2005, 04:55 PM

Am I the only one that noticed on the stats screenshot it said
SEXOCEAN.COM???

http://www.imagecup.com/albums/userp...032/stats2.jpg

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Am I the only one that noticed on the stats screenshot it said
SEXOCEAN.COM???

http://www.imagecup.com/albums/userp...032/stats2.jpg

who gives a fuck?

Snake Doctor · 04-03-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

who gives a fuck?

Well obviously not you. You don't give a fuck about anything except selling this site and taking your commission.

But if they're trading with sexocean.com then all of their traffic isn't real.

pornguy · 04-03-2005, 05:56 PM

If he is feeding it traffic, then Alexa has picked it up from the date he opened the site. Because it shows a 71690. And Alexa is usually slow.

sandman! · 04-03-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Well obviously not you. You don't give a fuck about anything except selling this site and taking your commission.

But if they're trading with sexocean.com then all of their traffic isn't real.

Guess you have traded with sexocean before and know this?

Or you another idiot that believes everything they read on gfy?

04-03-2005, 03:22 AM	#64
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04-03-2005, 03:48 AM	#65
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	Let me make a summary: 1. It's not even his own site 2. It's at least 90% skimmed traffic 4. +-10% of his traffic goes to galleries ( which means at 200k / 20k hits to galleries, makes him 5 sales a day ) 3. It has 25k Noref traffic, but since today that's called Feeder traffic 4. Site is one month old, no stable traffic at all. I wouldnt say hitbot, but i would say Bullshit __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

04-03-2005, 07:13 AM	#77
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04-03-2005, 01:19 PM	#81
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	no wonder these punks build up sites so fast they send 80-85 to trades. they fool surfers. you click so many times u dont even get a real gallery. to tell you the truth. i would rather have a 15-20k site with 85% to gals and lots of bookmarkers. than a 100k site with garbage trades so if your site goes down it looses its traffic. 80-90% to trades and hardly any to galleries. a 15-20k site like that is worth more in value to me anyday. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

04-03-2005, 02:50 PM	#83
ffmihai keep walking... Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,177	there are skilled people that know how to grow sites but dont make a bussiness out of it (not that that would be a bad thing). so those that dont believe a site can be grown that big whithout constant feeder let me tell you that you are wrong. __________________

04-03-2005, 01:37 AM	#61
Shaddam IV So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 810	rrrrrright... hey, it's not even your site, how do you know the owner not feeding it ?

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sandman! Icq: 14420613 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: chicago Posts: 15,432	.

04-03-2005, 04:36 AM	#69
Krille Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bangkok Posts: 2,436	$8000 for a 150k site when you can buy one from damagex for $3600? http://www.************/pricing.html

04-03-2005, 04:46 AM	#70
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	I agree Krille..

04-03-2005, 05:24 AM	#72
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	If I'm reading the stats right... Out to trades = 180462 Out to galleries = 67903 Total clicks = 248900 (248364 if you add the above 2 numbers) Only 28% of clicks are going to galleries.

04-03-2005, 02:49 PM	#82
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	Good luck in selling it but it took me 16 clicks to hit a gallery. Heres a bump for ya anyway.

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nikad Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BA Posts: 2,579	Price Since the site is so new, why the cost is 8k$? How much money did it make during the first month? I thought the estimated cost for a site was something like 6 months of revenue... Nik __________________ The Filthy Few [email protected]

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04-03-2005, 04:55 PM	#96
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Am I the only one that noticed on the stats screenshot it said SEXOCEAN.COM??? http://www.imagecup.com/albums/userp...032/stats2.jpg __________________ sig too big Last edited by Snake Doctor; 04-03-2005 at 04:57 PM..

04-03-2005, 05:56 PM	#99
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