Fucking joke. Fuck you Split Infinity!

So you are saying that it is not about money and you have it to give to Dombuyer but are not? You just posted above saying it is not about money so you should have no problem completing your obligations.

I already wired it to him PRIOR to him starting this mess.
See above posts and wire transcripts.

My point is that based on his actions I dont necessarily want to do business with him,
nor does he seem to want to do business with me as he has not contacted me
as well has he has ignored my icq's. (See above post "he must not be that sick since he is ICQ'ing me now..." yet he never replied. I take that as he doesnt want do clean up this mess.)

I'm still open to discuss this with him. I suggest we let this thread die until we come to agreement. i will post no more about this until i speak with him directly.

lol :1orglaugh

for some reason this made me laugh

good luck DomBuyer btw :thumbsup

you arent gonna get far in business, and thats coming from someone who knows fuck all. Look at all the selfmade million/billionaires in the world, they would think you were a fool if you let someone screw you out of 4k, let alone 80k.....

Ev

Yah I don't want to do business with my credit card companies anymore either. They always send me bills and when I am late and don't pay them they send them to collection...what assholes :1orglaugh

I don't normally butt into these bashing threads, but here I go. I have read the whole thread. At the end of reading this thread, I asked one of our guys if we hosted with Split Infinity, and we don't. We have several hosting accounts, so I am not always sure. Anyway, I probably would have suggested moving that account if we would have had one. You say you had the money to pay it, but just didn't feel comfortable doing so. That was wrong. Then, you bash DB (who I don't know, nor do I have ANY association with) for being upset, and bringing this out publicly. That was wrong. THEN, you say you are not going to pay him money that you already owe him. Not money for future payments, but money YOU ALREADY OWE HIM. You seem to have many friends, and supporters, which means you are probably a very nice guy. But, business being business, I am sure that the next time I am looking for a host, SI will not be on the list. The only reason I am bringing this to your attention, is to possibly save you from losing any more future business. The best thing for you to do at this point, personally and professionally, is to pay what is already owed. This, of course, is just the opinion of what was a potential customer.

Sorry about your hospital visit...I am sure it was extremely scary, and I wish you the best of health in the future. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

You renigged on the contract and you're claiming that what he did was bad business?

What a fucking joke.

there are many law offices in antigua :1orglaugh

talk about a businessdeal gone wrong

The best thing would have been to pay right away. Thats said the next best thing to do would be to pay the $10k or whatever amount asap nothing more needs to be said :2 cents:

Chris, my partner has contacted you to work out a settlement.

If you don't work out a settlement with him by tomorrow night, I'll be letting the dogs loose on Monday and suing you for the full amount.

I will make it my full time job to go after you for the full amount agreed upon in the contract to teach you a lesson in both professionalism and the power of agreements.

If I have to pay the lawyers $20k to get that full amount, I won't bat an eye. Principle is very important to me. You make a deal, you follow through.

More than anything else, you've made this worse for yourself by continuing to blame me for wanting money for the domain you contracted to buy, and benefitted from (without paying).

I hope you come to your senses and work out a deal. Why none of your friends haven't taken you aside to slap some sense into you as your business goodwill walks out the door is a mystery to me.

As I said in the other thread, I now think that you threw a hail mary with this, buying the domain on time and reputation, and praying that by the time you had to make the first payment, you would have garnered enough traffic and publicity to make it worthwhile.

It's clear you don't even have enough in the bank to wire me a proper $5k payment, but instead try and send me $4k (if you sent it at all) when the agreed upon amount was $10k.

Not my problem. If you haven't realized already, your rep has suffered a terrible blow. Make it right before it's too late.

:mad:

Amen :thumbsup

Let me know if you're interested in getting out of the hosting market split infinity, i have someone who might want to buy the company and save the rep by telling everyone its under new management.

I never backed out of the deal, that point you all miss.
I wired him money, I did what I said I was going to do... Wire 10k at the end
of the month. He has 4k and still denies it, I do not understand why he would expect
the other 6k to not get yanked while he still continues to bash me.

In the end.... you guys are teaming up against me... I never "bashed" him until
he started to get a bit too into this. I have tried to make peace with this guy,
yet he continues to post... so its obvious to me at this point what he is all about.
Why dont you contact me yourself? WHy dont you admit you received funds?

If you want a settlement, then quit your posting bullshit. You are the one who pulled your trigger.... I sent you money, you went to the boards despite that fact. I have made every attempt and have never backed out. This is my fault, sure.... But how you reacted is no excuse for going overboard like you have.

Put an end to your posts and maybe we can settle this matter. Otherwise, you are
putting yourself in the line of fire. Hows Antigua?

WebAir.com here I come!

Pay the man already.

From what I read you've sent him part of it, that doesn't buy you more time, you still owe the full amount.

:2 cents:

Damn ... split looked solid ... since 1998 ... I guess they are just still the same old warez host ... too bad cauz they were one of the 2 hosts I was considering ... I'l guess I'l stick with serverprovider for the gallery servers

Listen you imebecile: You SAY you wired me $4k. The amount you owed me was $10k, NOT $4k. **IF** you wired me the money, I won't confirm payment until it HITS my bank account. That's what bullshit does to people: they don't trust you. Deal with it.

You admit here that you have stopped the second wire for $6k. WHY? You owe me that money you idiot. Period. Whatever I call you or don't call you, you owe me the money PER THE CONTRACT.

I delieverd you the domain and its traffic. You've held me off for 30 days, gotten all the benefits and still blame me for being "trigger happy" when you're the fucking idiot who couldn't figure out a way to pay for your schemes?

How the fuck you have your head so far up your ass that you think you can glide by on your personality and delusions in the world of contracts and business is a mystery to me.

All you're doing is making me angrier and more determined to nail you for the full amount. Do you realize this?

I'll bump this thread till you don't have a customer left. Keep on pushing me.

:thumbsup

I sent the FULL amount of 10k.... He has 4 of it. The second wire was already set with the bank.... I asked them to HOLD it because he started this thread.
I never backed out of the deal and had he not started this thread we would not be in
this mess. So one question for him is all I have.... Do you or dont you want to continue with this deal? Thats all I ask..... if the answer is yes, then I will agree to let all this be behind us....

Then from there on, we continue as planned?

YES / NO <--- Circle one.

Either way, you still owe him $10k, and that $6k is his which youre holding

OK here it goes....

DomBuyer: I am sorry that this situation has come to this, really it's out of hand at the moment. Rumors and Allegations aside, let the past be the past and let's continue this. I did wire you 4k and I did wire you 6k. The 6k I managed to hold back by luck, the 4k went, I tried to stop that too but I was too late. Now.... .......

I did that because I was pissed off about the thread. You can understand my knee-jerk reaction about that. Look at this mess. I have a solid reputation and it is being tarnished over a domain purchase gone wrong. All I wish to do is get on the same page as you and let the past be the past.

I do not want to deal with anyone but you directly. I do not want this to get out of hand again, as I can see your wrath is fierce.

-Chris

This thread was started on April 1st.

You claim you'd already sent the money when it was started, but the second wire wasn't sent because he started this thread, therefore you PUBLICALLY ADMIT YOU ARE IN BREACH OF CONTRACT even if it's a verbal amendment to it. Pay the man and stop making yourself look like a fool.

No, I don't have $4k you moron. My bank account shows nothing. How many times do I have to say this. You haven't paid me until it's in my account. You have no credibility with me or anyone here now.

On Monday, I will tell you whether I received the wire or not, taking you from having paid me ZERO to having paid me $4k.

Then you'll still be $6k short.

You pay me the full $10k and I'll CONSIDER restarting the deal, but the plain truth you have to digest is that you don't drive on this one. If I choose to nullify the deal after you send me the $10k, there's not a goddamned thing you can do about it because you violated the terms of the deal.

But that might be better than me spanking you in court for the full $45k, which would most certainly put you guys down for good given your serious lack of cash flow.

My suggestion is you start talking to my partner before I swing the door shut for good and sue you for the full vig.

Uh, you would have been pissed too man... Im only human.

Ouch... Owned again

http://premium.uploadit.org/freepic1/antigua2.jpg



Look out the window DomBuyer



$10,000 ain't shit to stress when you have that right fucking there.


Sailing week is soon

If you had modified the terms of the domain purchase and then come to a tenitive agreement with someone regarding a payment schedule, you should have taken the time to get ammendments made to the agreement legally so that this would have been avoided from moment one. You publically announecd the purchase of this domain, thus highly staking your reputation on the sale and making it a public matter. Honestly, I'm sure DomBuyer would have understood if you had taken the time to actually gone through proper channels and made him comfortable with a properly laid out payment schedule. But that's my two cents, what do I know. Have a lovely day.

Chris, I have no direct interest in this on any side, but let me give you some good business advice:

When you have announced all over that you bought the domain, that you have done a great deal, yadda, yadda... you need to EXECUTE. Failure to execute on a simple "send money" situations can make people wonder about your ability to execute on anything else.

You bought a domain to brand your company and make it easy for people to find you. You agreed to a price (which is a good price for both parties, i am sure), now all you have to do is pay. Pulling back the second wire isn't helping you out here.

Your doing this in public now, and you only get one chance to make a good impression.

Alex

No, deal with my partner. It's the least you can do after blowing another two days of my life on this shit.

I shoulda got my sig in this thread long ago as I see it going on all weekend.

It probably won't go away for a while, either...

Alex

DomBuyer, this spitinfinity guy doesnt seem have 4k, let alone the 10k he owes you, I wouldn't hold my breath on the full 45k IMHO :2 cents:

SplitInfinity,

He says he didn?t receive the wire. I bank with BoA, just print (or screen grab) of your current activities and black out the important info to show that the 4k was deducted and post it maybe some us will believe you. The screen shot I saw of the bank transfer, I could make that in PhotoShop and I also could change my fax number to any number for the receiving end.

I don?t know and it might be not my place to post this, you owe the money and say you have the money so why not pay it. These threads don?t look good for new clients especially when the search is working :Oh crap




Sorry to hear about your first panic attack. It sounded real bad. :(

It is getting even crazier (sp)

Just because a wire has left one account does not mean it is in the other account.

I want to make it clear that I have no ill will for Chris and SplitInfinity. I just think this deal is being mistreated by them and this needs to be taken care of.

I know that:) But once I make a wire transfer with BoA, my account say minus (and pending) immediately.

hi- chiming in

dombuyer- i recommend you mitigate your damages soon and relist the domain for sale. that can fairly reduce chris' exposure at least. contractually he is a bit fucked of course. ease up a bit. your position is obviously strong.

chris- i think todd's point earlier was that you seem to know a lot about hosting and need some more corporate backing to get to the next level.

i hope people are not turned off to the 3rd party aspect of domain brokering. the folks in the middle are partially to blame for failing to verify that their client for purchase was in a position to pay per the contract.

most of the other points about executing and contracts and publicity have all been touched on and are obvious.

good luck to both of you resolving this and moving forward.

I appreciate your kind words, but I hope you can understand that I ain't taking any flak in any direction. I have been in the business of domains for a long time, and both the negotiation of the contract and the conditions attached were in keeping with the guy on the dotted line and his rep. Aside from peering into someone's bank account, there's no way to know if they'll follow through.

I think that when a company's in trouble, they'll cut almost any deal to pull them through, and will let their standards slide. Sinking ship and all.

seems totally standard in the domain biz and this is really a behind the scenes look at what happens in domain transfers etc.. it would be interesting to see the contract and also i wonder if chris would have wired you upon signing if he did not have the domain pointed to him until the first payment had landed.

to turn this into an educational do's and don't's for domain buyers and sellers would be a somewhat positive spin and you and us take these formalities for granted after having been down these roads over the years.

confidentiality etc in the agreement may preclude you from posting it but it could be a good tutorial. if anyone ever wants a copy of our standard domain transfer sale agreement/contract please email us and we will provide it to you as a courtesy.

now somebody send me their super model contract template for single girl sites ;-)

Now we get to the sorest of spots: this fiasco reducing the goodwill of the domain. It's one thing that I had to go through all this b.s., lose that traffic, actually pay someone to draw up and monitor this sale and end up in the red (so far) but what most pisses me off is that when I relist the domain, a lot of people are going to be thinking twice about taking it off my hands given the drama. Just the whiff of potential problems/lawsuits/bad karma will keep the big boys away.

I know I'd be very reticent to buy this until the dust has *completely* settled, and I know many others will feel the same. That's the worst of it. :mad:

Hmmmm Xpays, I like the way you talk.... that was a clear a level headed post.

Anyways, we do not have cashflow issues, that is not the problem at this time.

I have been on the phone with logicbank and the call ended well.
I highly recommend logicbank for and brokering deals... the guy is a GREAT negotiator.

I also strongly belive after my phone call with him that this can and will be worked out. I agree this got out of hand...

One comment though, on the above...
"He says he didn?t receive the wire. I bank with BoA, just print (or screen grab) of your current activities and black out the important info to show that the 4k was deducted and post it maybe some us will believe you"

I did post that... screen shot from online banking. :-) Anyhow....

This is going better now. I apologize for being defensive....

Best Regards.

totally valid and true - google split.com someday and this thread will pop -up if the buyer goes that route. plus you have illwill on it - hand it off to sedo this one time :winkwink:

also - if chris can secure the contract somehow and add a couple bucks to it and stretch it out a little longer and then stick to it- it could be pheasable.

Great minds think alike... "also - if chris can secure the contract somehow and add a couple bucks to it and stretch it out a little longer and then stick to it- it could be pheasable."

I did offer that. :-) Least I could do to help re-kindle the relationship.

i have to jet for a few- if you two agree that you need a mediator or anything like that - i volunteer and am impartial.

a little off topic: when do checks get sent for paris sign-ups? I'm getting my first one from last month :thumbsup

checks get sent every other week for the 2 week period 3 weeks before

will email you and turn up the volume - side note- we have never missed a payout (through sponsors going belly up and ibill shorting us etc.) - which is another good reason to use us--- we pay out of pocket without gvetching if a sponsor or provider sticks us. you never even notice and another working site in the same niche usually will automatically pop in to your original link. all your links will work for as long as we are in business and our 7 year anniversary for XPays is august 5th.

back to topic and glad i caught this question....

holy drama