Chio The Pirate

YARGH! I be ready for the nuclear holocaust!

titmowse

Nostradamus looked into bowls of water and told tales.

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God bless John Paul 3..

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mardigras

I've always figured if the Antichrist is an American it would be on a White House level (this is under the presumption that at the time the US is unchallenged as the world's superpower). Otherwise I think it would more likely to be someone in power of a multi-national organization (not necessarily U.N.) because of the "one world government" part of the foretelling.

GW matches a lot of the critera for the Antichrist. He's done a lot of dumb things, he's often wrong, but it always works out... and people love him for it.

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Johny Traffic

Exactlty, and talked so many riddles that what ever the pot smoking hippy said could meen anything. Olives my arse

And another thing GW as the Anti Christ? Fuck how dumb would the devil have to be, to pick that stupid twat? If thats the best he can do, I can see why now he has no chance of winning. If hes the anti christ then Jesus must be laughing to hard to come back for the second time

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oldnewbie

The problem with Nostradamus is that most of his stuff is so vague and non-sensical, you can interpret it a hundred different ways. Kind of like a French Dr. Seuss, LOL!

xclusive

Nostradamus quatrains are an interesting read believe or not I would recomend them fro a quick read

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oldnewbie

I've heard that one too. The Mayan calendar only goes to December 21st, 2012.

Now if you put that together with Biblical prophecy, which says the Tribulation will last 7 years before the end of the world and judgement, then the Biblical Tribulation would have to start sometime this year.

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New User

See another sign pointing to the French anti-christ.

oldnewbie

That's interesting... I remember when he was elected, I went: Whoa! M.Abas! Don't know if there is anything to it, but it's worth watching.

oldnewbie

I agree... I don't think the U.S. is going to go willingly into the one world government thing, so I think it will probably be something like the EU.

Actually, there are quite a few people out there watching the current head of the EU, Javier Solana. Someone even wrote a book about it, "Recommendation 666". I think this is the online version: http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/contents_menu.html

oldnewbie

Anything's possible. Though, you would think that they would elect the guy they thought was good enough to stand in for the pope to do the Easter services this past week. And that was Ratzinger, I believe.

INever

....the pope was a good guy....

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Matt_WildCash

Nostradamus wrote his shit in French, Italian & Latin. His stuff is so cryptic it can be read into a million ways he has not predicted anything people just read into his cryptic stuff and make things up about what he MIGHT of been talking about. Just like listening to Queen's "Another one bites the dust" you won't hear anything but if someone tells you that there is a phrase "its fun to smoke mauarana" then you listen to it again you'll hear it.

The mind TRY's to find things like this when there is none.

And to the pope, who cares he is just a guy who claims to be a god. He has been a vegastable for the last 20 years anyways

VanessaG

This thread gives me the creeps

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People of all nationalities, races and religions respect the pope.

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RRRED

There's something said too about technology in which one could CAUSE earth quakes and shifting on command from underground ways that have been in place quite a while....

I'm not a follower, but I do remember reading a bunch of stuff that pertained to about this time like 10 years ago.

Who knows? But I've always found it interesting.

oldnewbie

Now this next theory is very interesting, and we should find out, probably within the next week or so, if the guy who came up with it is full of shit, or not.

Basically, he thinks the first "reign" of the Roman Catholic Church ended when Napoleon captured Pius VI and ended the papacy's political rule in Europe around 1798.

Then he takes all the pope's names after 1798 (The RCC's new "reign") and adds them up in a certain way. For instance, since 1798, there have been 7 names used by popes:

1. Pius
2. Leo
3. Gregory
4. Benedict
5. John
6. Paul
7. John Paul

Now all through the RCC's history, there have been 12 Pius's. He counts the first Pius with a 1. Pius II gets a 2. Pius III gets a 3, etc. Thus, 12 Pius's (Pius 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12) = 78

Here's where it gets fun:

Here are the totals of all the popes names since 1798:

1. Pius 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 = 78
2. Leo 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13 = 91
3. Gregory 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16 = 136
4. Benedict 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14 = 105
5. John 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20 +21 = 231
6. Paul 1+2+3+4+5+6= 21
7. John Paul 1+2=3

78 + 91 + 136 + 105 + 231 + 21 + 3 = 665
as of John Paul II


So according to him, the next pope will be number 666. But ONLY if he takes a name that hasn't been used before... He has to be the "1st", so that it can be counted as a "1" to equal 666.

I personally don't feel that this theory is particularly good, he really had to stretch for it, but if the next pope does pick a new name from all the others in the past, it will certainly make me go, Hmmmm.

Johny Traffic

Whoever came up with that smoked way to much crack. That is withoubt a doubt the weakest atempt to make something out of nothing Ive ever heard. Trying to find different ways of adding stuff up, taken from a possible starting date blah blah to try and make 666.

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spunkmaster

The whole idea of the antichrist is that we won't believe he's the antichrist !

There's nobody alive right now that is an adult that fits the mold on the world stage so there's alot more that has to happen for him to step forword !

Steen2

Does seem a tad far-fetched.

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ChefJeff

George Bush ISN'T the anti-christ, but he sure might be enough of a moron for the anti-christ to say "Hey, now's my chance with this idiot in power."

Johny Traffic

I personally think its either Choi the pirate or juicy who is the next anti christ.

I'll explain why in cryptic code, mixed up with latin, gaelic and some anchient hebrew. But here is a very rough translation for you who dont understand those languages.

Then on the 18th new day on the dawn of the popes death a pirate will emerge, he will have a juicy fruit by his side. the mark of the beast will be around 40,000 (depending on post count) Then there douth be twice I say a beast that will post on the web of evil and the beast shall ride the end of the ship.

Ignore it at your peril people

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samsam

A number of things are made clear in the bible, such as that the antichrist would reveal himself (i cant remember at what point). A number of intrepreters of nostradamus' writings believe that the antichrist is:

Bashar Al Assad (The current leader of Syria). Its not conclusive but there are a number of things to note about this guy:

(1) He changed his name to "Assad" (means Lion) from "Wahash" (which means "Beast"). He does come from the "Beast" family line - this is a fact.

(2) According to Nostradamus, he refers to the antichrist being the "prince of leo" and whether this has significance, I have no idea.

(3) Under the ghemetrian number language (significance?), Bashar Al Assad scores the number 666 exactly. In the bible, it says let he who was wisdom count the number of the beast, for it is a number of a name etc etc.

(4) Assad's country people are helping to bolster the insurgency in Iraq.

(5) He is an ally of the west - it is said that the antichrist would at first hide his identity and appear to be a friend of west and to help solve the worlds problems.

(6) He was born on September 11th (co-incidence?). Possibly, but there is a 1 in 365 chance of that happening...

(7) There are other factors that make him a prime candidate, you can find them if you seek the wisdom and read books written by interpreters of the prophecy of Nostradamus.

zzgundamnzz

You forgot to read the history books.

The Pope did have political power. Until Napolean took it away for the final time.

The connection would be the first Pope was St. Peter who was an apostle to Jesus.

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hmm, intresting links:

http://interactive.zogby.com/fuse/me...&threadid=4046 (search for pope dies)

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/tru...iecrystal.html (says jesus doesnt return)

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/tru...e/newyear.html (conflicting predictions)

http://marshall.sandi.net/mp_stuff/2005_predictions/

http://www.psychicnikki.com/predictions.html

http://aquarius-atlanta.com/jan05/predict1.shtml

http://aquarius-atlanta.com/jan05/predict2.shtml

http://aquarius-atlanta.com/jan05/predict3.shtml (this guy is a bit more rational than the others)

http://aquarius-atlanta.com/jan05/predict5.shtml

http://aquarius-atlanta.com/jan05/predict6.shtml

http://www.prophecies.us/ (Niblet's Predictions)

http://forum.prophecies.us/viewforum.php?f=7



makes for some intresting reading, some of them share the same "predictions" but it doesnt look like the world is going to end.

Johny Traffic

OK Ill bite just for giggles


OK for this person we have found a way to calcualte that ads up to 666 so we go with it, just like a minute ago we had a way of making the next pope 666 using another way of calculating it. All anyone does is find a way of of calculating the end number to 666, using what ever number fits the bill, weather its ancient abacus, old calandeers or even adding popes number together. With one calculation or another you can conect everyone in the world somehow to the number 666

Yep and so are many other people in the middle east, they feel that the US is invading a fellow muslim country and killing fellow muslims, its simple and nothing synister there

yep hes an Ally, like about 50% of the worlds population

born on september the 11th just like 17,862,041 other people on the world

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samsam

Yes but how many of those 17,862,041 are world leaders?
And of those, how many come from the beast family line?
And of those 50% allies of the world population, how many are world leaders?
That narrows it down obviously.

I dont think Bashar is the antichrist, but a number of interpreters do.

Tipsy

Funny thread and abobe is the best post in it so far.

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Johny Traffic

See this is exactly the way these things start, we find a few similarites with someone to something and we find a few loose links, that actually point to nothing, read the post above about the popes numbers. Yes after someone points it out, it sounds slightly plausable, but the point is, these things are reverse engineered, in other words we have the finishing point and can find very loose links.

To answer your above question. out of the world leaders, yes probably 50% are allies of the west.

Outof world leaders in politics, religion, commerce etc etc, yes 1 in 365 were born on September the 11th. Also taking in to account that many where born on other days when other atrocities around the world in history happened.

With regards to the beast family line, Im sure if I looked into it, it either will be a very popular name where he comes from, or the translation wouldnt be exact. And anyway so what, he like millions of others have a translation of the word beast or animal as a name? So what, the bible wasnt even writen in English, so the actual word "beast" isnt even in it.


Im not having a go at you, I know your just repeating what others are saying, but what Im trying to get at is these things are just cluching at half truths, coincidences and stuff thats just made up.

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oldnewbie

LOL, I agree, actually. But it was on topic, and it will be proved or disproved quite soon.

I've seen people come up with 666 for pretty much every pope, president, or whatever they want it to. I have yet to see a theory on 666 that I really thought had merit. And it's quite possibly something that none of us will be able to see until it gets here.

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no actually, he said PIBcash will offer $75 PPS NO Shave for the whole week after the pope dies

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Johny Traffic

Yep, they did a program over here about unlocking the bible codes, I cant remember all about it, but using mathematical calculations, the bible shows all sorts of relevations, some have come true, some yet to come. They then picked a random book, I think it was "Pride & Predudice" The relevations that came out of that were amazing. Infact it showed things in even better and more acurate detail....It went to show that if you look hard enough you can make pretty much anything out of nothing. Now add in to that a bit of being vague and you have instant profecy

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LMAO!

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At the mid-point in the 7-year Tribulation, I belive. If I remember correctly, the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation period is supposed to be mostly wonderful, actually. The antichrist gets to be the Grand Poobah and everybody loves him, and he's supposed to solve all of the world's problems like energy problems and make world peace... right up until he goes into the new Jewish Temple at the mid-point and takes away the daily sacrifice and declares himself to be god. That's when the shit hits the fan and the really bad stuff of the Tribulation is supposed to happen.

Here we go... Jesus was talking to his disciples on the mount of Olives, when they asked him about the end times. Here's what was said:

Matthew 24:3-51
24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows
24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
24:46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
24:47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
24:49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

oldnewbie

I don't know, is he a really likeable guy? The antichrist is supposed to be really cool and solve all of the world's problems... At first. Does this guy fit the bill?

ezrydn

Nosty said that about THIS Pope?

Sorry, you gotta list references.

Johny Traffic

well that puts all of todays world leaders out of the frame, none of them have solved shit yet, infact all of them have created more trouble than they have solved

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TheJimmy

it's a interesting day to have read an excerpt from the Bible on gfy...

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Bansheelinks

funny how nostradamus is always interpreted AFTER THE FACT.

where was any talk of him and 9/11?

its all fantasy

Nysus

This pope said Bush could be the anti-Christ ....

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we already covered that dude, bush is way to fucking stupid The devil may be guaranteed to loose but even he can find a better prospect than that

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It's all about the #'s see post #48: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=451246

http://demonchurch.com is for hardcores

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oldnewbie

Ok, now I'm a little weirded out.

According to the prophecy of St. Malachy (supposedly written in 1139), that I mentioned earlier in the thread:

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Pope John Paul II was called:

'De labore Solis
(of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun)
...Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse..."

Now, I just read that the pope is to be buried on Friday the 8th.

http://finance.news.com.au/story/0,1...-23109,00.html

And guess what happens on Friday? A solar eclipse:

http://skyandtelescope.com/observing...cle_1445_1.asp

crowkid

[QUOTE=oldnewbie]
24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

I think that line speaks wonders... Just hearing the name of Jesus, for most citizens of Canada, and most chunk of Europe, and ESPECIALLY the Middle East, is hated. Christians today are hated, people are bloodthirsty on here, I've even seen people on this board jokingly/seriously endorce death to Christians...

It's pretty much a general consensus in most of the world, except the U.S. that Christians are bad people and need to be wiped out..... just a thought