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Old 03-31-2005, 05:19 PM   #51
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she wasn't dying until they stopped feeding her.
Um is she a baby which needs omeon too feed it?
No she's an ADULT. If you are an ADULT and can't feed yourself, tough shit. So the NATURAL thing that happens when GROWN people don't eat is to DIE. hristians that go against god confuse me. If God wanted her alive he certainly has the power to do that. He didn't Hmmmm so either god is fake, doesn't care either way, or wanted her dead. Choose.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:20 PM   #52
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she wasn't dying until they stopped feeding her.
you dont understand, she was without most of a brain... technically her body was living. but "living" in the sense of having a life, she was not - and that is what it should be about.

humans have an extraordinary imagination and desire to make advancements on every level of society. we sent a man to the moon, we've accomplished many great things, but many of the things we've accomplished go against nature: such as artificially extending the life of a person without a brain.

let nature take its course and grant her her wish.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:22 PM   #53
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So should all retards be killed. Surely nobody would want to be retarded. And a retarded person would die if someone didn't take care of them. This is the question nobody wants to touch.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:24 PM   #54
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So should all retards be killed. Surely nobody would want to be retarded. And a retarded person would die if someone didn't take care of them. This is the question nobody wants to touch.
If I give a reatrd a banana he knows what t do with it.

Once again if I as in ME choose not to want to live that way, should YOU decide to keep me alive because you don't believe in that. Now ANSWER that question.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:27 PM   #55
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Yea one of the few cases where hear say has been accepted in a court of law.
It is not hearsay when several people corroborate something. It becomes a fact.

Apparently three people other than the husband confirmed hearing her wish to die. People can speculate all they want about that, but that's the way it went down. I'm sure the judge and/or jury weighed all checks and balances and considered the credibility of each witness before rendering a decision. Aren't you? Or do you think the husband bought off the entire justice system?
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:29 PM   #56
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Well didn't her father talk his mother off life support? Also if Michael is so bad and being selfish wouldn't he have taken the million dollars to be done with her and give the rights over to the parents?
Once again we all gotta eat. So there for are we all on life support because we use a fork? Or what about any one of the disabled children alive today only because they eat through a feeding tube? Those millions of dollars could've been used to take care of her for the rest of her life.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:29 PM   #57
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Thats perfectly fine if you have a living will. Heresay that was accepted by an activist judge 7 years after the fact, is not strong enough for me.

People are acting like that was such a clear cut mandate. That judge Greer is an activist judge, and the Florida Supreme court is 100% Democrat justices.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:30 PM   #58
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:35 PM   #59
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Put it this way..... by the testimony of people she knew, she wanted to die in this situation.
She was allowed that death.
She is now dead.

The above pretty much settles the issue really. All those still blabbering on about how she should have been forced to live etc. are talking loudly into a now empty void.

It's over. Done. Finito. Deal with it.

Making stupid, lameass, dumbass, dipshit remarks about harming the husband or how he should be harmed is.... well, about as fucking ignorant and retarded as it gets. Whatever, have at it.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:42 PM   #60
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If I give a reatrd a banana he knows what t do with it.

Once again if I as in ME choose not to want to live that way, should YOU decide to keep me alive because you don't believe in that. Now ANSWER that question.
Not all retards would know what to do with a bannana. And yes if you decided that and wrote it down then you should have the right to die in that case. But you shouldn't be starved to death either. And if there was only some group of people that said they heard you say at a funeral one time "I wouldn't want to live that way". While other people at that funeral, in the same group, say they didn't hear that. You should live till you die.

That is going to be my last post on this subject because it's just making me want to club GatorB over the head with something for judging me without knowing me. And i don't think i'm going to make any money doing that :D It's cool GatorB your hard I'm just a pussy what do I know:D
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:44 PM   #61
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Put it this way..... by the testimony of people she knew, she wanted to die in this situation.
She was allowed that death.
She is now dead.

The above pretty much settles the issue really. All those still blabbering on about how she should have been forced to live etc. are talking loudly into a now empty void.

It's over. Done. Finito. Deal with it.

Making stupid, lameass, dumbass, dipshit remarks about harming the husband or how he should be harmed is.... well, about as fucking ignorant and retarded as it gets. Whatever, have at it.
aside from all the stupid stuff he said about "being forced to live etc."

He's right. it's pretty over now.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:51 PM   #62
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The only confusing part about this to me was the inability of the husband to go forward with any sort of rehab through the years.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:56 PM   #63
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aside from all the stupid stuff he said about "being forced to live etc."
If her wish was to die, what else would you call keeping her alive?

When exactly do you people plan on ending your rather empty argument? With posts like this calling for a hanging I can honestly say that if it were me instead of Mr. Schiavo in this situation, I would keep a loaded handgun in the house, and shoot the first one of you fuckers who came around with your bullshit.
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:58 PM   #64
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Thats perfectly fine if you have a living will. Heresay that was accepted by an activist judge 7 years after the fact, is not strong enough for me.

People are acting like that was such a clear cut mandate. That judge Greer is an activist judge, and the Florida Supreme court is 100% Democrat justices.
Turn off Fox!

The "activists" in this case were on the right, not the left.

One of the most right wing federal judges in the United States supported the judges in this case and called Republicans wrong:

http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/...331News009.asp

Do you think the Supreme Court was wrong to be activist in Bush vs. Gore?
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Once again we all gotta eat. So there for are we all on life support because we use a fork? Or what about any one of the disabled children alive today only because they eat through a feeding tube? Those millions of dollars could've been used to take care of her for the rest of her life.
She wanted to die and I believe that he had her best wishes in mind. I think it is a loving thing for him to fight for what she wanted.
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well killing him wouldn't bring back terry
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Old 03-31-2005, 06:58 PM   #67
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well killing him wouldn't bring back terry
Bringing back terri wouldn't bring back terri. I just had this discussion with my wife. People hear certain facts and then base an opinion.

If you listen to all the facts the picture is much different. He exhausted all efforts of getting her help. When the doctors pretty much told him in 1996 all hope was lost thats when he started the fight to have her wishes taken care of.

The thing is both sides have their issues. The law was not clear with both sides from the beginning. If the family was told up front the husband has the right to make the decisions then this wouldn't have drug on like it did.

Instead greedy doctors and lawyers jumped in promising the family the world and building their hopes up. What parent would not fight to the very end for their child? I know I would.

And so long as these doctors and lawyers kept building up false hopes in her parents thats where it turned for the worse. Micheal had accepted his wife wasn't going to be anything but a vegtable her parents held on to the hopes of doctors and lawyers that made lots of money keeping her alive.

I keep hearing starved to death. Yes her feeding tube was pulled but she hadn't eaten anything in years. No water passed her lips to drink in years. My wife was confused on this also till she just seen a few more interviews and realized that this woman hasn't had real food since the whole thing began.

The parents played on the sympathy of the world by bringing the media into it. Like I say I don't fault them. Anybody would rightfully fight for their own child. But this was all thrown out of purportion by doctors and lawyers that was feeding the family false hope.

The mother claimed she was responding. Well when desperate times happen we all look for a response in a loved one. And we also assume every move is a response because we want to think that our loved one did respond to us.

The truth in this whole case was drug through the mud. It's a shame but it brought much awareness to this issue. How many people have living wills today that didn't have them last month?

She should be remembered as someone who woke the world up to whats legal in these situations. Myself I always assumed the parents would have more rights than the spouse. I for one learned thats not true.

To me she died peacefully the way she wanted to. Thats the way I see the evidence. I could be wrong. I wasn't there to hear everything. And anybody else with an opinion can think what they want because unless they were there thats all they have to is an opinion.
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