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Old 03-28-2005, 02:39 AM   #201
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:40 AM   #202
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:47 AM   #203
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What person who starts out their life 'normal' and winds up in a vegatative state would want to remain alive that way?

Let her die, it's what she most likely and reasonably would have wanted.
see this is the logical falicy that all these merciful people use to justify their position that it is human to starve this person to death.

If it truely is a vegatative state so great she is completely unaware of agony of being starved to death then she is not aware of the condition of her life either.

Which means she really would NOT have any desire to die.

if on the otherhand she was aware enough to be able to judge the quality of her life, then she would also be aware enough to suffer being STARVED to DEATH.
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:58 AM   #204
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see this is the logical falicy that all these merciful people use to justify their position that it is human to starve this person to death.

If it truely is a vegatative state so great she is completely unaware of agony of being starved to death then she is not aware of the condition of her life either.

Which means she really would NOT have any desire to die.

if on the otherhand she was aware enough to be able to judge the quality of her life, then she would also be aware enough to suffer being STARVED to DEATH.
She would not have the desire to live or die in a vegatative state. That's why we need to ask, is this something she would have wanted for herself when she had the ability to choose. Like most of us, she would have said she would prefer to die rather than have her body live like an empty shell of her former self. When we don't have a will or a written request from that person, we ask their spouse.

But I agree, starvation is not the means I would have wished for her. It's a pretty obscene method.
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:15 AM   #205
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Old 03-28-2005, 04:22 AM   #206
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She would not have the desire to live or die in a vegatative state. That's why we need to ask, is this something she would have wanted for herself when she had the ability to choose. Like most of us, she would have said she would prefer to die rather than have her body live like an empty shell of her former self. When we don't have a will or a written request from that person, we ask their spouse.

But I agree, starvation is not the means I would have wished for her. It's a pretty obscene method.
see but i think this is problem asking a spouse who has moved on with is life to make the decision means you can really never be sure if it is because she wanted to, or he wants it to be over.

If your right and she is in a vegatative state which can never be recovered from, she can't feel anything and therefore is completely unaware of her condition.

Which means it does not matter to her one way or the other weather she lives or dies.

If your wrong and some medical breakthru, or a "miracle" (read something that surprises the doctor) results in her comming out of the comma then starving her to death makes a huge difference.
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:29 AM   #207
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vegetative state. What a fucked up term to describe a human being at any stage of their life.
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:31 AM   #208
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It is time for her to go. They should let her go in peace
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:35 AM   #209
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see but i think this is problem asking a spouse who has moved on with is life to make the decision means you can really never be sure if it is because she wanted to, or he wants it to be over.
Do you think this may have been addessed in the 10 years of legal procedings?
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:58 AM   #210
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Old 03-28-2005, 08:03 AM   #211
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This is an interesting article about the pain aspect of the case.....

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It looks broken, but scroll down a bit and the article is there
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