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Clicky_Bucks 03-27-2005 02:38 PM

Her brain is mush. What are we arguing about here?

baddog 03-27-2005 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
That is correct. But an infant is just as much as a "vegetable" as Schiavo is.

Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.

aico 03-27-2005 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
You can call me names all night long, dork. means about as much as playground insults. Doesnt change the fact that you're a fucking troll.

I'm not going to waste my time on you anymore.

Not too sure what's funnier, that you say I am calling you names in a post that has no name calling, or that you explain how calling names means nothing and then call me names...

Keep using those big words, I am sure someone will think you're smart...

Damian_Maxcash 03-27-2005 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Link ?

Doctor can not prescribe a potentialy fatal dose no matter how uncomfortable the patient is.

They can and they do... I have seen it many times.... and I dont need Google to tell me that.

Before porn I was a nurse, I worked on ITU for about 2 years and also on general wards. I pushed the morphine in myself on more than one occasion.

Entropy 03-27-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Every case is different.
In this case:
-dude marries woman
-they live together for 7 years
-she gets fucked up
-she is in irreversible coma/vegetative state/whatever you want to call it
-dude gets new woman
-dude gets 2 new kids with his new woman
-court decide that dude is and will remain the legal guardian

Now if you think that he should be the one to decide on her behalf, then I will have to be the one to go shoot myself.

You're ignoring the fact that the man and her parents worked together for years and years in search of treatment before he finally accepted what doctors told him almost all along...that there is no hope of recovery.

baddog 03-27-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Now if you think that he should be the one to decide on her behalf, then I will have to be the one to go shoot myself.


It was nice knowing you. Be sure to use a high caliber weapon and place the weapon against the temple, or if using a rifle, place the barrel pointing towards the roof of your mouth so we are not forced into putting you on life support.

David! 03-27-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Would you want to be fed by a tube for 15 years? Unable to move, unable to speak, unable to communicate in any way? Do you know anyone that would?

I don't know, it would depend on a lot of factors.
I know most people would not want to be kept alive.
That is why if you do not want to be kept alive, then you should have a living will and/or a DNR.
And if a living will/DNR is not available, then your next of kin should make the decision.
In the Schiavo case I do not agree with the court that says that the husband is the one to make the decision. In 95% of the case I would agree that it is for the spouse to make the decision, but in a case like that where the normal spouse has redone his life and is living with another woman, then he has lost his marital rights.

baddog 03-27-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
the fact that you use "dude" more than twice in one paragraph makes me agree with baddog on this one.

I know it must be tough, I can't believe I am agreeing with both you and Dark Jedi on the same day, much less the same thread

MetaMan 03-27-2005 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
I don't know, it would depend on a lot of factors.
I know most people would not want to be kept alive.
That is why if you do not want to be kept alive, then you should have a living will and/or a DNR.
And if a living will/DNR is not available, then your next of kin should make the decision.
In the Schiavo case I do not agree with the court that says that the husband is the one to make the decision. In 95% of the case I would agree that it is for the spouse to make the decision, but in a case like that where the normal spouse has redone his life and is living with another woman, then he has lost his marital rights.

SHE IS ALREADY DEAD! you people are fucking stupid, it is truly terrible whatever god there is gave you people air to breathe.

her brain is liquid!!!!!!!! HER BRAIN IS LIQUID!

read above HER FUCKING BRAIN IS LIQUID!

David! 03-27-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
You're ignoring the fact that the man and her parents worked together for years and years in search of treatment before he finally accepted what doctors told him almost all along...that there is no hope of recovery.

Look, she was DOA, almost 15 minutes with no oxygen, there was no hope from the beginning.
The point is: Why did he wait 7 years and a new "wife" and 2 new children to come out with the information that she did not want to be kept alive?
Had he done that from the beginning, then no one would have had any problem with it.
Each day hundreds and hundreds of people have to make that decision and it does not make the news.
Why wait so long to let the court know?

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
They can and they do... I have seen it many times.... and I dont need Google to tell me that.

Then they are criminals.



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Originally Posted by damian2001
Before porn I was a nurse, I worked on ITU for about 2 years and also on general wards. I pushed the morphine in myself on more than one occasion.

Oh, we are going to take for granted legal medical advice from a former junkie and now a porn webmaster ?

Just think of what you're saying: "If a patient feels uncomfortable, the doctor can give him a fatal dose of drugs"

Don't make me laugh.

David! 03-27-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
SHE IS ALREADY DEAD! you people are fucking stupid, it is truly terrible whatever god there is gave you people air to breathe.

her brain is liquid!!!!!!!! HER BRAIN IS LIQUID!

read above HER FUCKING BRAIN IS LIQUID!

Why are you getting so excited?

MetaMan 03-27-2005 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Why are you getting so excited?


because there is no way any half intelligent person would ever say "keep her alive"

ANYONE with half a brain would understand why she should be let go and its stupid people who "think" they understand issues that make this world a worse place.

baddog 03-27-2005 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by benc
I support right to die, and think this girl should be kept alive.

why ?

David! 03-27-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
because there is no way any half intelligent person would ever say "keep her alive"

ANYONE with half a brain would understand why she should be let go and its stupid people who "think" they understand issues that make this world a worse place.

I am not arguing to keep her alive.
I am arguing that it is not your decision nor my decision to keep her alive.
It is the parents decision, and that is because of the facts of that SPECIFIC CASE.
In most case, it would be the spouse decision but in this SPECIFIC CASE, it is the parents decision.

Damian_Maxcash 03-27-2005 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Then they are criminals.





Oh, we are going to take for granted legal medical advice from a former junkie and now a porn webmaster ?

Just think of what you're saying: "If a patient feels uncomfortable, the doctor can give him a fatal dose of drugs"

Don't make me laugh.

OK.... Believe what you like..... I have no reason to lie to you

Im 34 years old.... Like most people on here that are not teenagers, I had a 'real' job and a life before the internet.

Edit: BTW... where did yiu get junkie from?

baddog 03-27-2005 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
True.
So but why cant you agree that since we are in a sense killing her by not feeding her, why not just end it with one heavy dose of morphine


because euthanasia is illegal

David! 03-27-2005 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
why ?

Because there is no absolute proof that this is what she wants.
Just like I oppose abortion but I support the right of a woman to choose.

Alex 03-27-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
It is the parents decision, and that is because of the facts of that SPECIFIC CASE.

Didnt a handful of judges and courts say otherwise. If it was the parents decision she wouldnt be kept alive now would she?>

aico 03-27-2005 02:58 PM

Why don't they just freeze the bitch and sort it all out later... problem solved.

Alex 03-27-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
because euthanasia is illegal

Why dont you post that a few more times.

David! 03-27-2005 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
because euthanasia is illegal

Then we should make euthanasia legal when it is requested by a sane and conscious individual. I would have no problem with that :2 cents:

David! 03-27-2005 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Didnt a handful of judges and courts say otherwise. If it was the parents decision she wouldnt be kept alive now would she?>

I am stating my opinion, not the judge's opinion :2 cents:

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
OK.... Believe what you like..... I have no reason to lie to you

Im 34 years old.... Like most people on here that are not teenagers, I had a 'real' job and a life before the internet.

Real job ? A nurse picking shit from under the patients ?

I have a Masters Degree in Laws and i have 5 family members who are real doctors (not nurses). I'm telling you that giving a potentially fatal dose of drugs to someone in a felony.


Euthanasia is illegal, okay ?

MetaMan 03-27-2005 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Because there is no absolute proof that this is what she wants.
Just like I oppose abortion but I support the right of a woman to choose.


no "proof"

if you find 1 single human that would like to sit in a chair with no communication or learning ability for 15 years come and post it here.

what PROOF is needed!? 15 years!? its common sense! 99.9% of EVERYONE on this plant would have wanted to plug pulled on themselves after the first couple years (most even less).

aico 03-27-2005 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Real job ? A nurse picking shit from under the patients ?

I have a Masters Degree in Laws and i have 5 family members who are real doctors (not nurses). I'm telling you that giving a potentially fatal dose of drugs to someone in a felony.


Euthanasia is illegal, okay ?

Ha ha ha, ha.. haaaaaaa, haaa.. Masters Degree in Laws... haaaa ha.... scan it and post it.. I'd LOVE to see that one...

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
Ha ha ha, ha.. haaaaaaa, haaa.. Masters Degree in Laws... haaaa ha.... scan it and post it.. I'd LOVE to see that one...

Wanna make a bet ? $5000

We'll use an escrow - someone respected from this board.

Then i'll post a scan.

Damian_Maxcash 03-27-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Real job ? A nurse picking shit from under the patients ?

I have a Masters Degree in Laws and i have 5 family members who are real doctors (not nurses). I'm telling you that giving a potentially fatal dose of drugs to someone in a felony.


Euthanasia is illegal, okay ?

Read this.... Its a letter from a staff nurse in a hospital in Scotland

It explains what happens better than I can

http://www.euthanasia.cc/mail22.html

And trust me nursing is a very real job.....

Ask the 5 Drs in your family if this dosnt happen, almost every day..... u may be surprised at the answer

David! 03-27-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
no "proof"

if you find 1 single human that would like to sit in a chair with no communication or learning ability for 15 years come and post it here.

what PROOF is needed!? 15 years!? its common sense! 99.9% of EVERYONE on this plant would have wanted to plug pulled on themselves after the first couple years (most even less).

This is not about what people want or would like, this is about the law.
The law says that the hospice must carry out T.S. wish.
Some people are arguing that it was not her wishes to be unplugged.
Other people are arguing that it was her wish to be unplugged.
I am arguing that it has not been shown beyond reasonable doubt that she wanted to be unplugged.
How do we even know that she is not part of the 0.01%?

aico 03-27-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Wanna make a bet ? $5000

We'll use an escrow - someone respected from this board.

Then i'll post a scan.

Ya, let's bet... you are such an idiot... why the fuck would I bet you, if you got it, post it, you ashamed of it or something?

I just think you're far too stupid to have a Masters in anything, but hey, I could be wrong, would love to see it... unlike you (obviously) I have no problems with being wrong from time to time...

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
why the fuck would I bet you..

That's what i though. You're a loud mouth dwarf faggot with no game.

aico 03-27-2005 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001
Read this.... Its a letter from a staff nurse in a hospital in Scotland

It explains what happens better than I can

http://www.euthanasia.cc/mail22.html

And trust me nursing is a very real job.....

Ask the 5 Drs in your family if this dosnt happen, almost every day..... u may be surprised at the answer

OWNED... good work.

fünkmaster 03-27-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
How does it feel to get up in the morning and think to yourself, "95% of the people on Earth are smarter than me"

Moron.

...make that 99% and I would once more agree with you.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001
Read this.... Its a letter from a staff nurse in a hospital in Scotland

It explains what happens better than I can

http://www.euthanasia.cc/mail22.html

LOL, you kiddnig me ?
Some nurse on a .cc domain says that euthanasia is legal versus a Law adobted by US Congress ?

:1orglaugh

aico 03-27-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
That's what i though. You're a loud mouth dwarf faggot with no game.

Again with the name calling... Hey, wasn't it you that just made the statement that name calling doesn't mean shit? Do you even realize how stupid it makes you to say something like that and then do exactly what you just said didn't mean shit?? Are you sure you understand Laws?

aico 03-27-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
LOL, you kiddnig me ?
Some nurse on a .cc domain says that euthanasia is legal versus a Law adobted by US Congress ?

:1orglaugh

I have never seen one person miss the point more than you... He NEVER said it was legal you moron... He Said that Doctors do it all the fucking time... jesus christ, read it, think about it, mull over it a bit, think about it somemore, then comment on it...

Damian_Maxcash 03-27-2005 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
LOL, you kiddnig me ?
Some nurse on a .cc domain says that euthanasia is legal versus a Law adobted by US Congress ?

:1orglaugh

lol.... I have nothing to prove here.... I know the way the system works, and it really dosnt matter to me if you believe that or not

Ask the Drs family in your family if this happens.... It may educate you

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
I have never seen one person miss the point more than you... He NEVER said it was legal you moron... He Said that Doctors do it all the fucking time... jesus christ, read it, think about it, mull over it a bit, think about it somemore, then comment on it...

And you missed my fucking point - it is illegal.
They can do it all they want, but they're commiting a felony.

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
lol.... I have nothing to prove here.... I know the way the system works, and it really dosnt matter to me if you believe that or not

Ask the Drs family in your family if this happens.... It may educate you

I don't give a shit if it happens or not - it's against the law.

People kill each other every day, but it doesnt make it legal.

baddog 03-27-2005 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
And if a living will/DNR is not available, then your next of kin should make the decision.


He is the next of kin, whether you agree or not. Next.


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