You're comparing amimals to humans ?

God, you're an idiot.

the fact that you use "dude" more than twice in one paragraph makes me agree with baddog on this one.

you are also a complete idiot stfu.

Like it or not, we all go. I personally am in favor of a more humane approach than the slow drag out, but I can understand the complexity and tension over assisted suicide and where that line should be drawn.

What really should be easy is permitting an individual to have the dignity to make these decisions for themselves.

And for everyone looking for the "evil husband" motive and quoting a bunch of blatant lies, it really does not help anyone nor does it help your credibility.The husband has turned down multiple offers of seven figures to just go away. The trust fund has been publicly accounted for and is totally exhausted. There is no insurance. There is no pay day.

The position on abuse causing this is a total joke. They only even raised it as an argument after they lost the first trial. This has been rejected by all of her treating physicians, the trial court, appellate courts, the GAL, the independent doctors looking at the case. But we have to vilify anyone as long as we can score political points and advance an agenda.

Every independent medical expert that has actually reviewed the records (unlike the 17 so-called experts in the affidavits who never bothered to even review her medical records, relied on 4 minutes of video snips from a five hour long tape, and amazingly NEVER EVEN DISCUSSED HER CAT SCAN) has found she is in PVS, or cerebral cortex is absolutely eliminated, and she has no hope of recovery.

Have you seen her CAT scan? Instead of a cerebral cortex there is only ventricle. Necrotic tissue extends even into other areas of the brain. Her brain stem is active ... the lights are on, but there is decidedly no one home.

Oh, the nurses. Yes, the people who never bothered to note that a patient in persistent vegetative state spoke. One who was fired because the husband complained about her lack of attention to Ms. Schiavo. The one who says she can eat ice cream and jello (um, why the feeding tube? duh). Interesting some of these people crawl out of the woodwork so late under the media spotlight and only after the first trial's result.

Even the parents and their legal counsel conceded she was in PVS throughout the first trial and on appeal. It was only after they lost that they completely shifted gears, made up a new story, and propped up good Dr. Hammesfahr.

This so-called expert for the parents claims he is Nobel nominated. Only he was nominated by his congressman. Maybe I should have my wife nominate me for the Nobel Peace Prize so I can add it to my resume. Do you not see the credibility gap??

He has been censured by the Florida DOH for lying to patients and has to have another doctor following him around and reviewing his files. When he said his treatment would work, and has worked, he could not point to a single specific case file or case study in support of his position. You would think that might be important if you are testifying in court. If you really want to believe experts of this caliber rather than actual evidence, that is a fine statement of why we need courts deciding these types of issues and actually weighing evidence rather than using mob rule in the legislature to eliminate the individual's rights to control their medical treatment.

Hmm, should the court believe the guy with the fake Nobel certification, license complaints, and with no proof supporting his opinion? Yet that is exactly what some people latch on to. Logic and reason seem to be evaporating from our country's fabric on a daily basis.

The parents in the first trial indicated they would consent to amputation of all her arms and legs, and then still do open heart surgery and keep her alive. They testified under oath that if she woke up and told them she wanted the tube removed, they would ignore her wishes and keep her alive indefinitely. Tell me that is not sick. I understand their pain and their loss. But try and tell me that this is about their daughter's wishes and desires. After they testify in that fashion, how is anyone really supposed to believe they have their daughter's wishes in mind and are accurately testifying to them???

Let this poor poor woman retain just a tiny shred of her lost dignity and pass. Splashing this poor woman's absent shell on videos to raise money for causes and push a so-called "pro-life" agenda is really pretty sick. Calling people who look at this differently as part of a "culture of death" is ridiculous. No one wants this woman to die. What people on the other side of this issue react to is the need to respect the wishes of an individual regarding their, repeat THEIR, medical care. That is really respect for life, dignity, and the ultimate responsibility of a person for their own choices.

On a final note, better draft an iron clad living will. Better ensure you have your DNR fully executed. Make sure you lock down who is your agent for treatment decisions. I have, have you?

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November was the first time I have ever voted a straight ticket - Deomcrat - any ass hat voting otherwise is part of the problem.

Idiot. She is going to die right?
Why not just end it/>?

Sorry, Loryn, you know I love you, but what exactly do you want to keep her alive for?

My daughter works with severely mentally disabled kids, some of which need to be assisted with eating, or going to the bathroom, but at least they can move and communicate, neither of which Terri can do.

Tell us, would you want to be kept alive if you were in that situation? Do you know anyone that would?

what has that to do with my fact stated that I thought you were full of yourself for claiming you were the one that grasped it and most others were to dumb to comprehend it

thats just called chinese birth control

A feeding tube is only required if a patient is incapable of swallowing. The inability to swallow is a fatal pathology, and circumventing this pathology requires medical intervention or treatment.

An infant, parapalegic, etc may need assistance in feeding, but they have the ability to swallow. There is no comparison between the two.

Well, it seems like it is a gfy habit to insult one that does not agree with you. Other call you idiot, i call them retard.

Those people do not need a tube inserted in them. They can sit in a wheel chair, they can communicate in some manner, they can be educated. She can't.

Personally, I think they should harvest whatever useful parts are left on her and let her go.

No, you stupid asshat, he is comparing how we treat animals & muderers with more dignity than humans.

Something ironic about a moron who uses Darth Vader on his sig calling people idiots... Luke, I am your father... Now go play with your action figures and whack off to Princess Leah you stupid 11th level Cleric.

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Let her die in piece you extremist hypocritical american, watch too much telly, fucks

No need to introduce yourself in every post. I already got the idea of who you are.

Because if someone ends it, he would be considered a murderer.

My two cents, if your whole goal of seeing this girl die is to make a statment in the right to die issue, I suggest finding a much better case to use as a battleground, such as someone that has all their faculties and a disease, and wants to die.

I am the least religious person, and I support right to die, and think this girl should be kept alive.

They do not need a tube inserted in them to feed them . . . .idiot

True.
So but why cant you agree that since we are in a sense killing her by not feeding her, why not just end it with one heavy dose of morphine

yeah , but here my point is that you are the one starting with the insults by calling EVERYONE retard and stating that NO ONE really could comprehend it like you ,

that makes you a class A idiot and full of yourself

period! .

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Fucking idiot.. God you have no clue whats going on

i already told you, stfu, you are a complete fool! JUST A COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT! i want to stomp you for being such a fool.

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I am the least religious person, and I support right to die, and think this girl should be kept alive.
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this just shows how incapable of rational thoughts you are, get the fuck out of this thread.

Since her brain is liquid it doesn't matter much what happens to Terri; sorry to say. But I don't know anyone that would want their demented self displayed on TV 24 hours a day and turned into the poster child for the far right.

I used to think that Romans feeding Christians to the lions was barbaric, but I can see now they might have had a point...

I had a child near death once, and I can tell you there is no way I'd let my baby end up like that; would fight like hell to let her die a dignified death as the husband is doing; he is the real hero in this. The lies by the far right are just amazing, for instance all the money was spent years ago and the husband gets not one penny when she does.

A selflish bastard would have sold her living corpse to that guy that offered him 1 million 2 weeks ago; anybody notice he turned it down????

What a fantastic post! It is well thought out and cuts it down to the core. I feel the same way. As for my "living will" my mother had one...her wishes were honored by her doctor. I have the same doctor and he made not of it in my medical records and I signed it. My entire family knows my wishes and I say it publicly to anyone that will listen.

If there is no hope for me....let me DIE. I love the people in my life far too much to want to put them through that. Pull the plug, take out the feeding tube and go have yourselves a party. Remember the times we laughed and cried together....remember the good, the bad...and remember how much I loved everyone. As for the money...save it..spend it...blow it...donate it...hey I'm not going to need it...others might as well enjoy it.

My life is today, in the here and now...everyone's should be. Enjoy it while you can...and when your time comes...go with dignity and grace.

Terri was on life-support - the feeding tube. She has been brain dead for over a decade.

Killing a criminal = capital punishment.
It's a special prerogative of a state.

Terri has commited no crimes and hasnt been convicted.


Now STFU you stupid piece of shit.

Because euthanasia is illegal, write your Congressman.

However, because of the condition of her brain she is not suffering, she is not saying "someone get me a sandwich please."

1000's of people every day have their lives ended artificially, even in the US... Most people that die in a non-emergancy situation are made comfortable towards the end with morphine. Most will die from an overdose of that morphine.

It will not be any different in this girls case.

Dont I, so all the doctors and judges are wrong, but you are right? Do you think adding lots of syupid laughing faces after your post makes you look clever or funny? Explain what you know that all the doctors and judges dont clever laughing man

No one is killing her right now.

But if they give her a heavy dose of morphine, then that person would be a murderer.

Thats how the laws works.

If an autopsy showed that a person died from a morphine overdose, then the doctors would be prosecuted.

Alex, starvation is not actually so bad. She does not feel hunger or thirst..she doesn't feel anything. As the body slips away it actually does not want food or water...it is natures way.

If they overdosed her, it would technicaly be euthenasia...which some do not believe in...not feeding her is letting her die "naturally". I personally would want it over in one quick shot..but medically and morally speaking...that is killing her...a very fine line indeed...but that is the way law and medicine is.

Or what? You gonna stab me with your lightsaber? oh, oh, i know, I know, do the pinchy thingy with your fingers and choke me...

BTW... way to completely miss the point... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Anyway, now that we have found out that Terri is indeed on life support, how fucking hypocritical is her father disconnecting his own mother from life support and crying that only God can take life ?

You should really stick with words you know how to spell.

Pretty much anyone who thinks of life support, thinks of someone in a coma and using a breathing machine etc.

When you think of 'life support' the first thing that comes to a persons mind isn't a person that just has a feeding tube.

What about a person that has a colostomy bag. Is that life support.

you want to look smart by questioning his motives, he does it by smilies , no difference here :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


and yeah WHY were you questioning his motives again ?? oops , already answered that one myself

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No they wouldnt.... It has been challenged in court many times in the US and the UK

The Drs responibility is to keep the patient comfortable. If the dose required to do that is high enough to stop the patient breathing then the Dr is still entitled to prescribe that dose. The Dr just has to be convinced that it is required to keep the patient comfortable.

You can call me names all night long, dork. means about as much as playground insults. Doesnt change the fact that you're a fucking troll.

I'm not going to waste my time on you anymore.

Would you want to be fed by a tube for 15 years? Unable to move, unable to speak, unable to communicate in any way? Do you know anyone that would?

Link ?

Doctor can not prescribe a potentialy fatal dose no matter how uncomfortable the patient is.