All good considering your part of the 5% that arent

Media are not pissed at the fact that she is being starved to death, only FoxNews is, other media are perfectly ok with that.
I am pissed at the fact that her demented husband who obviously has left her many many years ago to redo his life (which is perfectly normal given the circumstances) is still legally her guardian when he should have given the guardianship to her parents. That I truely do not understand.

Any technology that keeps you alive to compensate for your bodily inadequacies is "life support".

I think this is a proper place to say this...

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She doesn't know she is being starved to death. She is incapable of feeling hunger. The part of her brain that sends the signal of hunger to her stomach does not work.

Im shocked at how you are turning this into a red states vs blue states issue.

She is a human being being started to death.

Either way i think we could all probably agree that starving her to death is evil and cruel.

If we know she will die by not feeding her , we could at least make it quick and painless.

I dont claim to know all the facts or rules, but the girl doesnt look all that bad, she doesnt look like she needs "full" life support or is suffering in any ways by keeping her alive. I dont see what the husband doesnt just let the parents take care of her. ( other than if you knew in your mind your wife had told you to pull the plug you would have to )

Now i hate to move to the touchy subject of money, but the family will eventually run out of money , and that means the burden will eventually fall on US the taxpayer to support her, and i just can't see the justice in paying to keep her alive while kids right here in the u.s.a. are going to school hungry with inadequate health care.

So why not put a bullet in her head and end it. I mean we are klling her anyways.

Yet they seem to have no problem with the many people, that have alot better chance at a normal life, starving each and everyday...

If your wife told you , " please pull the plug if i ever reach a vegetative state like that "

would you turn over rights to her parents if you knew they would keep her alive , regardless of if you were divorced or not ?

In a way, I agree...A nice hefty dose of morphine makes alot more sense than the drama of starving her...

Under the law, a feeding tube does count as life support.

Quote from Sandra Day O'Conner:

wow good find feel bad for her either way though

Even if this were true, its cruel to everyone else involved. Its also a needless expense that could be better spent on people who are treatably sick.

I agree but that isnt the point being debated.
We all know that the media lives of contreversoy. But the problem is that a hospital is agreeing to let someone starve to death. People see that and associate it as torture. Which is why so much contrevoersy is going on about her. If she is going to be killed, why not just do it.

Heuh?
It is the politicians and media who are turning this into a blue vs. red state.
The same democrats who will cry for baby jesus when a child murderer is executed and the same republicans who think the solution is to give weapons to teacher. :2 cents:
As far as I am concerned, I think that her parents should make decisions on her fate, not the husband.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL , idiot

So much drama.

Every case is different. If that happened to me, and my wife's parents wanted to keep her alive, then I would turn over the decision to her parents. Anyways, in that case, the husband's side claims that she is not even here and can't feel anything, therefore she would not feel anything too if she was kept alive.

She is not going to be killed. She is going to die of natural causes.

I suggest you grow a brain asap.

Thats why you are not "leagally" concerned in this.

She will get a lot of morphine... In the end it be will what finishes her off

Eh... I am pretty sure that feeding tube was supporting her life...

And you think Schiavo does?

And you are?
Do you run a program?
Do you own a site?
Are you even a webmaster?

Idiot. She is being deprived of food. She cant eat and support her self by her self.

Back to my previous camparision..

If you take an infant. And leave it alone and dont feed it, and it dies. You practically killed it. Because the infant cant fend for it self.

I never thought I would see the day that I thought Dark Jedi was smarter than you. I may go shoot myself now. :(

BTW, if it does not kill me, do not keep me on life support.

yes, they are. but they're not brain damaged, they're expected to "recover" from needing life support, and certainly can't consent to having the life support removed.

In a criminal case, family witness usually never have much weight since they are most of time testifying for one of their family member.
No one knows what Terri Schiavo wanted, there are 5 people who claim that she said she would not have wanted to be kept alive, one of them is the husband, the other 4 are the husband's family members.
No one from her side or no one who was friend with her ever heard her say that.
Also, why did the husband wait 7 years to let the court that she wanted not to live like that?
If there was something in writting or if there was at least one witness from the Schindler side, then we would not be here discussing this.

Hon, she does not have brain function she is in a coma. Her breathing and reflexes are autotomic reactions, nothing she can control on her own. They could give her therapy 20 hours per day 7 days a week and she will NEVER be able to care for herself simply because she is basically brain dead.

It is a terrible situation, but I used to take blood from a young woman in the same situation as this lady. The parents won the court battle, the husband was granted a divorced and moved on with his life. Fifteen years later both parents had died, there were no other relatives...so there she layed in a ward in a nursing home with people 3 times her age....day in and day out, in diapers, having to be constantly moved to help prevent bedsores...constant infections because of lack of activity....being tube fed through her abdomen...no visitors. Expected lifespan...probably another 40 years. She will never awaken, never get any better. Over the years she has moved more and more into the fetal position and eventually she will seize up and just be basically a stiff shell of a person curled up in the fetal position.

Would you realy want that for yourself Loryn? Would you want to put your family, your friends through that? And what about when they all move on, or pass away, and you are there...still....no life....sounds about as close to hell on earth as one can get.

Do I feel for this young woman? Of course I do, it is heartbreaking and hearts will break no matter what decision is made. I feel badly for her parents who visit her constantly...always forever hopeful for the impossible. To be honest though, I would NOT want to put my parents (if they were alive) through that..I would want them to enjoy their lives instead of letting theirs slip away hoping for me to return from a journey I have no hope of returning off. I would want them to vacation, to laugh, to think of me with good thoughts and happy memories of our life together...the special times we shared....not standing over me day after day...year after year at my shell of a body..waisting what years they have left on me.

That is correct. But an infant is just as much as a "vegetable" as Schiavo is.

They need life support. It may not be in the form of a tube, but someone has to feed them or they will die.

I understand and semi agree with you do

Because we only treat family pets and murders with that sort of special treatment & respect, people we love & care about, they gotta starve to death, duh, use your head man. :thumbsup

I agree with right to death, but in this case she clearly should be kept alive.

There are way too many troubling issues in this case. Some of which were just mentioned.

I think people on the left, many in this thread, are making themself look like idiots.

Good post. But do you agree that letting her "naturally" die by starving her is right. Why not just get it over with.

the parents should be hung, what sick sick people you have to be to continue to keep someone braindead alive, and even IF she wasnt braindead to be sitting in that chair for 15 years with no chance of communication only a complete fool would keep her alive and say that she never wanted to die.

So fucking true. I had a friend who had a dog with 10 turmors. They put it to sleep. No letting it die or starving it.

stfu you are a complete idiot.

No. The infants grow and gain brain functions like logical thinking etc.

Terri does not have a brain - it's liquified. She isn't even in coma. She can not recover. People can't grow a new brain.

Every case is different.
In this case:
-dude marries woman
-they live together for 7 years
-she gets fucked up
-she is in irreversible coma/vegetative state/whatever you want to call it
-dude gets new woman
-dude gets 2 new kids with his new woman
-court decide that dude is and will remain the legal guardian

Now if you think that he should be the one to decide on her behalf, then I will have to be the one to go shoot myself.

Im not sure what people are upset more about.

That her parents cant decide to keep her alive
Or
That she is beign starved to death.